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runmc 03-19-2014 09:45 AM

Under the Ice for Philly Cheese
 
New build for Philly Cheese - Lots of pics. All new parts.

Let's start off with Big 3/4 hp condenser

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1019.jpg

3/4 hp Danfoss Compressor

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1027.jpg

Evaporator brazed up

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1024.jpg

Flex line brazed to evap

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1032.jpg

Cap tube coming up

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1036.jpg

Water bath to check for leaks

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1037.jpg

Evap is pressured at 250psi to check for leaks while bathing

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1039.jpg

I like to wrap the cap tube around flexline for added subcooling, then add rubber tape to secure cap tube to flex.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1040.jpg

Big fat insulation

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1042.jpg

My work bench

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1044.jpg

I add a piece of copper around the joint where the flexline and copper meet. This is a spot where leaks can possible develop over time.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1045.jpg

Closer look at splint

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1046.jpg

Unit is all brazed up now and pressure testing. I have more pictures but I need a break from uploading for lunch. :blink:

Mr.Scott 03-19-2014 10:00 AM

Love pics like this. Thanks. :)

Witchdoctor 03-19-2014 10:23 AM

Sick looking build. Awesome work runmc .......... :thumbsup:

Philly will be chilly ....... :)

ThreeDhero 03-19-2014 10:32 AM

Sweet cant wait to see it in action Philly

Splave 03-19-2014 11:04 AM

looks nice! mine is still pumping away at -45c on haswell :D :D couldnt be happier

Kal-EL 03-19-2014 12:08 PM

PhillyPHreeze!

Nice :) May it serve u well my friend.

GFDuke 03-19-2014 12:28 PM

Very nice. Class A work as usual. What temps are you shooting for?

runmc 03-19-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GFDuke (Post 99531)
Very nice. Class A work as usual. What temps are you shooting for?

I shoot for -35 C at 300 watt load, evaporator temperature.

I have a lot more pictures to come. Unit is vacuuming now. I let it vacuum overnight
and then do a triple evac tomorrow and then charge it up with r-507. :thumbsup:

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-19-2014 02:10 PM

WOW!
Blown away!! (RUBS HANDS TOGETHER WITH EVIL GRIN) :Hi:

SWEET MAN!
Call before you ship, as I may need to put it on "WILL CALL" if I'm out of town.

punx223 03-19-2014 02:29 PM

nice work as always Ron!

Cant wait to get another unit from you!

runmc 03-19-2014 04:05 PM

Thanks for the compliments guys. It's all about taking your time and having the right tools mostly. And a little experience. ;) I like to post these detailed builds to give other people ideas on how it's done and also give the new owner the opportunity to see their new cooler being built. I learned a lot from looking at other peoples builds.
Here's a few more shots -

After I bolt the compressor on the deck, I like to run my discharge and liquid line. The discharge is the 1/4 tube going from the compressor to the condenser. The liquid line is the 1/4 tube going from the condenser to the filter/drier which in turn feeds the cap tube which runs to the evaporator.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1028.jpg



http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1030.jpg


Here they are brazed up.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1031.jpg

Suction line is the flex line that goes from the evaporator back to compressor.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1047.jpg

Everything is brazed up and I have it under pressure to see if there are any leaks. You use nitrogen to pressure test and purge with. Next I'll work on wiring.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1048.jpg

250 psi pressure test

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1049.jpg

Wiring goody box

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1050.jpg

Wiring and switch done but I closed the cover. I'll open it up and get a picture of the wiring tomorrow.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1051.jpg

I paint the copper to help keep it from oxiding and getting green and nasty, plus it looks a lot better.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1053.jpg

:ohcrap: More pictures tomorrow. :)

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-20-2014 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runmc (Post 99532)
I shoot for -35 C at 300 watt load, evaporator temperature.

I have a lot more pictures to come. Unit is vacuuming now. I let it vacuum overnight
and then do a triple evac tomorrow and then charge it up with r-507. :thumbsup:


Very Nice man!
I was expecting to wait, was getting bummed out. Great work! :good: Seeing as this is my first one, are there do's and don'ts? Like I assume its not good to run everyday, how will it handle a 6/12 core 2011? Great build log! Very Happy!!

Witchdoctor 03-20-2014 04:19 AM

you'll love it, easy smeasy sub ambient. :thumbsup:

I use mine a lot as I can't afford LN2 very offend

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-20-2014 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchdoctor (Post 99544)
you'll love it, easy smeasy sub ambient. :thumbsup:

I use mine a lot as I can't afford LN2 very offend


Very Cool!!!
I got's to make room now.................:good:

runmc 03-20-2014 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhIlLy ChEeSe (Post 99542)
Very Nice man!
I was expecting to wait, was getting bummed out. Great work! :good: Seeing as this is my first one, are there do's and don'ts? Like I assume its not good to run everyday, how will it handle a 6/12 core 2011? Great build log! Very Happy!!


Sure you can use it everyday. :good: I personally wouldn't go 24/7 with anything freezing cold. No dos and don'ts about the phase unit. It's all about prepping your socket and motherboard. I believe Bill (Buckeye) has a great guide in this phase section. Prepping for phase is not as severe as prepping for LN2. Someone here at your forums can walk you through it. Six cores are pretty hot as I recall. Give it a shot and see what happens. The unit is built for 300 Watt. Not sure what the 6 cores crank out.

After an overnight vacuum and a triple evac I put the r-507 charge to it this morning. No load testing and tweaking of charge yet. Maybe later today. It does get cold though. Seems like a great cooler.

We got some smoke coming off the evap if you look closely

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1054.jpg

Strong charge

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1058.jpg

I prefer to strap the copper lines down to prevent damage during shipping and just plain use.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1060.jpg

I still have some more insulation to do then some mesh and mounting. This will be day three since start. Not sure exactly how many hours I have in it. I'll have to do a punch clock on my next unit. More pics later. :good:

kikicoco1334 03-20-2014 07:23 AM

wow that is a really cool build!

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-20-2014 07:33 AM

Great work man!
Yeah I can prep a socket, no worries there. NO TIME CLOCK! :ohcrap: J/K!

Witchdoctor 03-20-2014 07:41 AM

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Man, you do such nice work ....... :)

3930K = 130W TDP

you'll be chillin philly :thumbsup:

just do a standard sub zero set up,


http://www.overclockaholics.com/foru...1&d=1395337164

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http://www.overclockaholics.com/foru...1&d=1395337164

runmc 03-20-2014 08:41 AM

hehehe - I knew somebody was watching your back.
Great insulation job Witchdoctor ! :good:

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-20-2014 12:43 PM

Yeah my last insulation, I for got to use masking tape around the CPU, I took the hold down off the 2011 and clay ozzied under the CPU UGH!

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-21-2014 10:34 AM

:jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy:

Is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet:blush:

runmc 03-21-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PhIlLy ChEeSe (Post 99575)
:jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy:

Is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet:blush:

Yep - it's done. Ships Monday. :good: Picture 1 - Charged at 302 watt on Kil-o-watt thingy @ -36C

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-21-2014 04:27 PM

AWESOME!
Let me know man.........................

Witchdoctor 03-21-2014 04:41 PM

Diggin the crazy mess ......... :thumbsup:

Ron, do they make retainers for GPU's ?

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-21-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchdoctor (Post 99581)
Diggin the crazy mess ......... :thumbsup:

Ron, do they make retainers for GPU's ?


I was wondering that myself, it would have to be smaller wouldn't it?

@Ron, check your email man!!!

runmc 03-22-2014 05:49 AM

Ready to go on this end.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleS...l/IMG_1074.jpg

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-22-2014 10:28 AM

Very cool man!
Thank you for your patients with me, I was thinking of one with two heads that are smaller for GPU'S have you done anything like that before?

THANK YOU!

runmc 03-22-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhIlLy ChEeSe (Post 99584)
Very cool man!
Thank you for your patients with me, I was thinking of one with two heads that are smaller for GPU'S have you done anything like that before?

THANK YOU!

Never could keep two heads balanced. One would be warmer than the other.

Kal-EL 03-22-2014 10:30 PM

Addicted...

Neuromancer 03-25-2014 03:12 AM

Instead of a dual head evap, use phase change as a liquid chiller. (Evap being a another rad immersed in a liquid.

Look up water cooler chiller for more deets.




correct me if I am wrong, but 300W is pretty easy to hit on a 2011. You will have to keep a good eye on your temps as you clock up, as once you hit near that load... temps will increase sharply.

Very nice work ron, super clean :)


How much one of these run? I might have to invest in one come summer. Got a 30' long shed I can use with its own electric panel :)

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-25-2014 09:27 AM

@around before shipping

Neuromancer 03-27-2014 01:11 AM

Nice.

If I keep getting 40 hours a week, I think I will be ordering one as well :)

runmc 03-27-2014 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 99638)
Nice.

If I keep getting 40 hours a week, I think I will be ordering one as well :)

Just let me know when and I'll put your name on one. :good:

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-27-2014 12:39 PM

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Rubs hands together defiantly :morpheus:

GFDuke 03-27-2014 01:06 PM

You'll love it. SS is fun. It's not LN2 but it's a one price performer. Plug and Play. Once you use your ln2 it's gone. Then ya got to get more.

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-27-2014 01:49 PM

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Guess who showed up at my door, just now? The wet box scares me but it has been raining all day here today. I just hope its not bad.............................

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-27-2014 02:05 PM

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All right, I got four good drinks in me,(its Thursday!:thumbsup:) looks to be intact, just wanted to post these:keeporder:

I'm not touching it till tomorrow as alcohol don't mix with Voltage :Hi:

runmc 03-27-2014 02:38 PM

I hope that's water and not oil. Does the box look smashed anywhere? The way it's wet on one side makes me think it could have been laying on it's side. When you first start it up, let it run a minutes and then turn it off and let it sit for ten minutes. Do that a couple more times. That way the oil can move back into the compressor.
If there is oil inside the box, something is broken. Probably not though.
I'm glad you were there to sign for it.

PhIlLy ChEeSe 03-27-2014 02:57 PM

No,
Its all intact. No wetness inside, unless its dripped straight out and I can't see it (inside the box is dry) its not crushed anywhere. I'll fire it up tomorrow, follow yer instructions..........
Thanks Again Ron!!!!

PhIlLy ChEeSe 04-04-2014 07:53 AM

Hey Ron
I must be doing something wrong as at first it shot down to -55 degrees, then ever since it has slowly risen to hover around+ 20-30 degrees Celsius?
I have a window open on the condenser temps outside at 5 Celsius, at first it looked and worked great.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, is it ok to seat the unit next to my computer set up? ?Should the motor be higher than or below my setup? As the neck is long, and im not sure what to do with the extra(I assume keep it standing up)?

I shut it off for a while, see if it helps .............Need advice here really. Thanks!


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