[ReverendMaynard]

almost looks like half of a 295.

[Witchdoctor]

All I want to know is when and how much ...............................

I have a feeling they will be imposible to get for a while ............

[HITandRUN]

Well after reading this I have a feeling like the new nvidia tech wont be so great. God knows who to believe anymore. Fact is I wont be paying their price for a GTX480 which is 5% faster than the 5870. I think this will be a fail ship.

[Witchdoctor]

Prolly strickly a bench and sell card ....

But retail product will tell the story ...

I put zero stock in to anything that does not come off the shelf for retail as you have to beleive nV and ATI only send out premadonna chips for pre release reviews and god only knows how many of them are on their payroll .............. LOL

[Kal-EL]

26th is the expected launch of Fermi.

[MaadDaawg]

Pefect 4 days before my b'day Lemme know if you need the ship to address

[Hondacity]

i just the pics..if those are real....they definitely improved the power circuitry

[Russianhaxor]

Fuuurbyyyy

[MaadDaawg]

Reminds of the days (long long ago in a galaxy far far away) when MS was battling to make Windows 3.0 the destop standard against IBM's OS2.

Win 3.0 suffured huge amounts of suckage cause it was released buggy as all hell in an unfortunatley successful attempt to win the market through sheer volume of sales by hype. Win 3.0 was a 16 bit DOS shell and was responsible for coining the phrase the blue screen of death (BSOD). Except in Win3's case, it was death, not an inconveniece. No protection from one program to another, they all shared one giant memory pool and if one died, everything died.

OS2 in contrast was a robust 32 bit operating system, superior in every way except for the marketing push that IBM never made. Since IBM held it until it was a viable product (V3 code named Warp) they were so far behind the market curve they could never catch up.

Meanwhile, MS introduced a less buggy Win 3.1 about 3 months later which let you almost work effieiently throughout the day with only a few BSODs.

The rest is history. Windows dominates, and OS2 is no where to be seen in the consumer market.

Hopefully, the same result is not repeated with the ATI substandard hardware just because it came out sooner.

Not that I'm an nVidia fan boy or anything lol nVidia products just seem to work with far less frustration

[Witchdoctor]

Doe no .......... my 5870 and 5850 work really good ....

I have heard nightmares about CF though .....

We feed that fire, as we all have bought the 5870 and many grabbed the 5970 as well and we will all prolly buy a 480 .....

So bringing product to market just makes good business sence even if it is not 100% ready to go, and untill we are ready to say stop!!! I will not buy this product untill it is ready for prime time, they will continue to do so.

But knowing the mantality of our team and others we will keep buying cutting edge tech and hope for the best ............

This marketing stratagy has really worked out well for Bill