[MaadDaawg]

Being of Greek decent, I'm aware of Atlas and carrying the world etc.

I think you have your libertarian credentials a little skewed, as libertarians believe the Federal government should have little to no rold in running the country - which, of course, is the job of the states (at least per the Constitution). The Fed can only perform those duties as strictly outlined in the Constitution, which includes running the military, but has nothing to do with dictating social polices to the states.

Your definition leads to the Federal Government restricting the rights of some for the good of the many, which is, no offense, the main tenant of socialism.

My wife read the book and she says the movie is loyal to the book. Her interpretation of the book was that it promoted self determination with the Federal Government staying as much out of the picture as possible. Part 1 of the movie depicts crooked politicians conspiring with greedy business men [Edit Added:] to insure that only they win and everyone else gets screwed [End Edit Added]. Something eerily akin to what is currently happening to our economy now. From Hoover, Roosevelt, Johnson, Carter, and now Obama.... pushing for a society that is "fair". I'm telling you, you could take the speech out of the end of the movie and it would sound just like Obama talking

Life ain't fair, and penalizing the successful to take care of less fortunate destroys the foundation that Capatalism is based on. This coming from a guy who's been unemployed for a year (don't even THINK of touching my unemployment pay : )

Part II isn't out until Fall of 2012 so as soon as I finish the book I'm reading now I'm going to read Atlas Shrugged. If you read it too, we could have an online debate

[Neuromancer]

Originally Posted by MaadDaawg

Being of Greek decent, I'm aware of Atlas and carrying the world etc.

I think you have your libertarian credentials a little skewed, as libertarians believe the Federal government should have little to no rold in running the country - which, of course, is the job of the states (at least per the Constitution). The Fed can only perform those duties as strictly outlined in the Constitution, which includes running the military, but has nothing to do with dictating social polices to the states.

I did not want to presume anything about your knowledge of mythology

But my understanding of libertarian is identical to yours, so not sure why you think its skewed. Yes the individual states will be responsible for the day to day, but the fed government does still exist to make sure universal truths are upheld (IE the constitution)

[Patch]

MD, read Faith of the Fallen by Terry Goodkind. Very Ayn Rand-ish, without the boring.

[MaadDaawg]

A good 60 minutes episode. Could have been part of Atlas Shrugged - crooked politicians and businessmen/women. except, this is real life. Gotta watch the movie that's embedded in the web page

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/60-m...e-information/

Patch, I'll read your book, but first I gotta read Atlas Shrugged so I can see for myself how it tracks in the movie. Besides, can't wait until Fall of 2012 to find out how it ends

Neuromancer, smart man - I don't know shit about Greek mythology :

[MaadDaawg]

Short the Euro, while you can

http://www.yolohub.com/economy/the-c...nd-of-the-euro

[Patch]

I'm starting to buy art I like to supplement long term plans and spread eggs to some different baskets. I want something I can see and hold and I don't like gold enough to risk hopping on an expanding bubble.

Trying to acquire the original paintings of cover art to paperbacks I loved as a kid. Man, I wish I could afford a nice Frazetta......

Figure I can enjoy them for the next 30 years, then sell to help fund retirement. If they're worthless at that time then anywhere else I put my money probably will be too. Ammo and seeds will be the new currency.

[MaadDaawg]

Originally Posted by Patch

Ammo and seeds will be the new currency.

Yep

I have few hundred comic books that are from the early to late 70's if you like comic art. Also have most of the first five years of Omni Magazine, which was avante garde art.

Don't forget to insure your art in case of fire

[MaadDaawg]

http://www.thethirdjihad.com/

[Neuromancer]

I know gold is a bad investment. Foxnews not only have commercials selling it, but hawk it on their news programs.

(Good investment 5-6 years ago when it was $400 an ounce, but it shot up way to much over the last few years (400%) if anything now is the time to SELL your gold )

But foxnews dont tell you that...

[MaadDaawg]

I don't remember the video having anything to do with gold

Actually, most analysts are saying hold your gold and buy on future downturns