[Splave]

Originally Posted by 3oh6

i am going to chime in here with my thoughts as i would fall under the 'pro's' category still using XP. i too believe XP is faster in SPi 32M, with that said, i haven't spent a significant time tweaking W7...actually couldn't say i ran 32M on W7 ever. i have never seen anything to contradict this either.

for you guys getting lower times in W7, can you run your best most tweaked run at 4GHz - 1000MHz 7-7-6 or 7-8-7 even - 4GHz uncore? possibly on a Classified? just for a reference time as there is a ton of data at 4GHz. the average is around 8m 44s for a well tweaked XP on Classified. a screen with CPU Tweaker for memory sub-timings would be great for comparison purposes. different motherboards are going to give different results, RTL/B2B CL/etc... all get set differently by different boards...but from another board would be fine as well.

any other W7 screens at 5GHz or higher would be great as well if you have them so i can compare to my slew of XP work. again Classy would be great but on any MB would do. unfortunately i am not at home right now so i can't partake in any direct comparisons at this time, just able to compare to screenshots i happen to have access to.

here ya go did it on my lunch break for ya 8m59s with 4.5gb wazza lsc but 24 processes running

[3oh6]

Originally Posted by Kal-EL

Round 1 ends in 48 hours or at 0700 hours on Friday, July 31, 2009, @ 0700 hours, Hawaii Time.

this sucks not being able to play.

Originally Posted by Splave

here ya go did it on my lunch break for ya 8m59s with 4.5gb wazza lsc but 24 processes running

awesome, thanks. here is a screen shot of a properly tweaked XP at pretty much the exact same settings. i found one that matches your RTL and subs as close as i could. as i said, i still haven't seen anything to suggest that W7 is even in the same ballpark as XP/2k3 for 32M. even though you are running 3GB and have all 4 cores enabled - which is worth about 4-5 seconds i think compared to 6GB/2 cores enabled - the XP setup is still a lot quicker. this is my standard XP and process for 32M...

click for full size including CPU Tweaker...

[Splave]

Originally Posted by 3oh6

awesome, thanks. here is a screen shot of a properly tweaked XP at pretty much the exact same settings. i found one that matches your RTL and subs as close as i could. as i said, i still haven't seen anything to suggest that W7 is even in the same ballpark as XP/2k3 for 32M. even though you are running 3GB and have all 4 cores enabled - which is worth about 4-5 seconds i think compared to 6GB/2 cores enabled - the XP setup is still a lot quicker. this is my standard XP and process for 32M...

No prob, so that is with reg tweaks, barebones, lsc etc? Do you use maxmem?
Apparently Im retarded when it comes to tweaking xp because whenever I try maxmem I get worse scores.

Another thing though is this is x64 windows 7, x32 7 is better by far. I will get a clean install and see what I can pull at those setting to compare.

[3oh6]

Originally Posted by Splave

No prob, so that is with reg tweaks, barebones, lsc etc? Do you use maxmem?
Apparently Im retarded when it comes to tweaking xp because whenever I try maxmem I get worse scores.

Another thing though is this is x64 windows 7, x32 7 is better by far. I will get a clean install and see what I can pull at those setting to compare.

sounds good, i am interested in the best from W7 so if 32-bit is it, then i would love to see what you can pull off. just remember, enable only 2 cores instead of 4. i assume it is quicker on all OS's. perhaps try with 2 and then run with 4 just to see.

as for my XP setup, it is my best setup i use and i am always at the top of 32M efficiency. my OS isn't the best but close enough. there are definitely guys with better OS's setup in 2K3 or XP. i don't look at 32M tweaking as a specific set of tweaks, sure some are just "tweaks" like LSC, but i look at tweaking 32M as an entire process with setting up the OS.

for instance, maxmem isn't a tweak in the sense LSC is. you don't just enable it or set a value and get better results. maxmem can be used to enable higher stability when on the edge of memory (now uncore as well) clocks. maxmem is also used in conjunction with copy wazza and page file size. specific maxmem values combined with specific copy wazza methods and page file sizes can enhance the effects of copy wazza. it is sort of hard to explain but maxmem isn't what i call an "enable for better times" tweak...hence, why you don't get any gains or actually lose i would imagine.