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Rogue210 01-20-2010 09:54 PM

Suggestions on CPU
 
Good Day everyone ;)

This is my my little thread on suggestions on what to get for my new rig....right now I have questions on the type of CPU to get...thinking about getting the Core i5

Not sure if I should get the Clarkdale or the Lynnfield....and would it be benefical if the chip comes with the Intel graphics? There are about three different ones I am looking at but I was not sure if I should get the i5 w/intel graphics...any suggestions or comments are welcomed :) Also is it better if I spend more money on my cpu or on my motherboard...

thebanik 01-20-2010 10:51 PM

get an i5 will help us to get some boints in wprime as well, :p

Rogue210 01-20-2010 10:57 PM

:laughing: that is y I am looking at the i5...:cool3:

Chuchnit 01-21-2010 12:39 AM

Get the clarkdale and focus on a good motherboard thats gonna get you on the 2:8 divider and high bclock. So far that is only the gigabyte and evga options.

Rogue210 01-21-2010 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 22652)
Get the clarkdale and focus on a good motherboard thats gonna get you on the 2:8 divider and high bclock. So far that is only the gigabyte and evga options.

cool newegg has the intel core i5-660 clarkdale with new cpu w/intel graphics...or should i get just the core i5-650 clarkdale...not too much difference...

Chuchnit 01-21-2010 01:36 AM

Well are you gonna join team havoc again and go sub-zero? If so the extra multiplier will help. If not, then just save the money and get the 650. You'll max either out on air before you hit the blcock wall.

As far as the intel graphics, both chips graphics part runs at 733mhz so no difference. Is this for benching or an htpc build?

Splave 01-21-2010 02:59 AM

650 or 660 are both good choices for boints 60 easy in wprime and ud6 is the mem champ so far but I know sham and raja are working on the 2:8 for the evga boards

Neuromancer 01-21-2010 03:54 AM

Rogue for bointing I would defintiely say go i5.

If you are looking for a great all around rig though, if you are going to go core-eye, than you should really spend the extra $100 and go with an X58 platform. New boards are coming out with USB/SATA 3 which means a lot of high end boards are dropping in price (You can find used Classifieds in the low $300 now! not possible a couple of months ago)

The reason X58 costs more than P55 is getting a good quality board (if you dont mind used, you can get great X58 boards for under $200) RAM will cost you the same despite needing an extra stick for X58, because performance wise you need MUCH faster ram on the P55 setup. source

As an AMD guy that really believes in that intangible "desktop snappiness" of the AMD architecture, I was VERY impressed with my X58 which I have not been impressed wit hthe desktop performance of an Intel chip since PIII

Witchdoctor 01-21-2010 04:12 AM

the 920's are ruling the bot these days ..... and with good air 4.4 is doable ..... maybe a bit more if you live up north. With an air cooler though just about any x58 board will get you to where you are going. No sence in spending big bucks on a board that you are not able to tap the potencial of.

Now if you are looking @ water and dice that changes the landscape and the high end board would reap you benefits

Good luck

Neromancer I know what you are talking about but I can tell you i7 @ 4.7 with an SSD = the fastest desktop preformance I have ever exsperienced

Kal-EL 01-21-2010 04:37 AM

Rogue, I have the 670 already inbound so you could get a different cpu and we could trade cpu's when ur done.

Splave 01-21-2010 04:45 AM

^ that would be pure win :) Love when stuff like that pans out

Neuromancer 01-21-2010 04:51 AM

Yup that looks like the best solution :)

Rogue210 01-21-2010 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 22655)
Well are you gonna join team havoc again and go sub-zero? If so the extra multiplier will help. If not, then just save the money and get the 650. You'll max either out on air before you hit the blcock wall.

As far as the intel graphics, both chips graphics part runs at 733mhz so no difference. Is this for benching or an htpc build?

This build is for my benching and I am gonna join team havoc again and try dice so I would love good but not great just in case I wreck havoc ha ha

Rogue210 01-21-2010 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 22664)
Rogue, I have the 670 already inbound so you could get a different cpu and we could trade cpu's when ur done.

Oh that sounds like an awesome idea:)

DrNip 01-21-2010 05:40 AM

That sounds like the way to go. I might be having my 3845B027 up for sale real soon. Golden of a chip it is but time to move on with other things.

punx223 01-21-2010 07:41 AM

i may be having some cpu's for you guys to rent for awhile so you guys can play. :morpheus:

DrNip 01-21-2010 07:49 AM

Let me know on that punx. I'm looking for an i5 myself.

Witchdoctor 01-21-2010 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punx223 (Post 22693)
i may be having some cpu's for you guys to rent for awhile so you guys can play. :morpheus:


How much a month ? ........................... :taunt:

punx223 01-21-2010 08:05 AM

lets wait and see what i got first

Rogue210 01-21-2010 10:00 AM

Not sure if anyone answered my question but what is the difference between the i5 with integrated graphic and one without. Is it worth my money to get one with? Will it make a difference when I bench with it? Btw thank u for all of the help:)

Splave 01-21-2010 10:04 AM

First thing I did was disable mine. Just a waste of space in the chip imo unless used in a lappie. You thinking 660 or 661 or 650?

Rogue210 01-21-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splave (Post 22707)
First thing I did was disable mine. Just a waste of space in the chip imo unless used in a lappie. You thinking 660 or 661 or 650?

Probably the 650 or the 660. But just wanted 2 know if the extra
$10 was worth it 4 the intel graphics

Chuchnit 01-21-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue210 (Post 22705)
Not sure if anyone answered my question but what is the difference between the i5 with integrated graphic and one without. Is it worth my money to get one with? Will it make a difference when I bench with it? Btw thank u for all of the help:)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only i5 without on die graphics is the quad core i5 750. You don't want that crap. What you want is one of the i5 600 series with integrated graphics just so you can disable it when you install it :good:

The dual core i5's are built on 32nm process and clock WAY higher than the 45nm quads.

Rogue210 01-21-2010 10:22 AM

Thanks chuch....guess Now I have to decide between the 650 and the 660:) both are about the same in specs

DrNip 01-21-2010 10:34 AM

$13 more I would go with the 660. Pretty sure it has a higher mult as the 650 default speed is 3.2ghz whereas the 660 is 3.33ghz.

http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=43550,43546,

Rogue210 01-21-2010 10:42 AM

Thanks nip was leaning towards the 660 :) gonna order it tonight yea

DrNip 01-21-2010 10:53 AM

I would love to get my hands on one of these clarkies. Keep on wishin I guess...

Rogue210 01-21-2010 11:06 AM

:laughing: nip u probably do a better benching that I could ever do. Just wondering how long it will take me to break the son-of-bitch. I try to b gentle but I don't think it is in my nature hee hee

Splave 01-21-2010 11:10 AM

careful on the volts, they die quickly! best of luck and enjoy.

punx223 01-21-2010 11:46 AM

clarkdales are like bottle rockets.... they shoot up high then die.... the volts required 2.0+ v vcore prettty much will hurt it after a couple good runs

Neuromancer 01-21-2010 02:28 PM

I did not spend a lot of time looking into clarkdale after I read about how they sucked. Anyone here have some real experience with them?

Splave 01-21-2010 03:04 PM

mine will be on cascade in the next 1/2 hour :)

Kal-EL 01-21-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splave (Post 22735)
mine will be on cascade in the next 1/2 hour :)

Where the hell is Romdominance and his LN2 runs?

punx223 01-21-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 22736)
Where the hell is Romdominance and his LN2 runs?

he got lost in clarkyland:ohcrap:


actually last i heard he was tearing into a clarky with a P55 classy

Rogue210 01-21-2010 08:53 PM

kay now u guys are making me apprehensive....should I go with the clarkdale or the lynnfield?

thebanik 01-21-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue210 (Post 22758)
kay now u guys are making me apprehensive....should I go with the clarkdale or the lynnfield?

go with Clarkdale, lynnfield is only good at the absolute top where coz of its higher clocks thru LN2, can do some damage in pifast, superpi and wprime......with clarkdale as suggested earlier if not something else atleast wprime boints will be in ur bag........

Rogue210 01-21-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebanik (Post 22759)
go with Clarkdale, lynnfield is only good at the absolute top where coz of its higher clocks thru LN2, can do some damage in pifast, superpi and wprime......with clarkdale as suggested earlier if not something else atleast wprime boints will be in ur bag........


Ok...thanks :) u da best!!!:cool3:

Splave 01-22-2010 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 22736)
Where the hell is Romdominance and his LN2 runs?

talk to him a bit last night on the phone, looks as though he hit 6.2ghz 1.85v for 7.900 wprime 32m :) and he has yet to do the cbb mod lol! Amazing :shock:

on my sdump beast cascade (in my living room :laughing: ) managed 5.8ghz pi1m pifast and 6.0ghz cpu-z valid and just 5.5ghz for wprime 32m but I was a little easier on the volts at 1.75vcore. Now that I have a baseline its time to kick it up. Load temps and idle temps on the 2stager were -120 to -128 the whole time :D

Kal-EL 01-22-2010 04:49 AM

I don't believe any of it until its posted in a thread w/pic for this hairy guy :picmonster:


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