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Kal-EL 10-21-2009 06:16 AM

Multi-Boot
 
Most of us know that running a dual, triple, quad or even a sexaboot is fairly simple and straight forward with WIndows. You simply install each operating system in the order from oldest to newest. 32 bit being older than 64 bit.

That being said, I've concocted a video of a sexaboot "Six OS Boot". We have:
xp pro 32
3D Optimized xp pro 32
Vista Ultimate 32
Vista Ultimate 64
Windows 7 x86
Windows 7 x64

All on one boot loader, choose you're os and boom, you're in it to win it. WHy? Because some games run smoother in certain operating systems than others. Mostly, because certain benchmarks run faster in certain operating systems than others. It can be DONE!


Buckeye 10-21-2009 07:41 AM

Ok you used a terrabyte drive for all this, how did you do the actual setup with partitions and order of installing OS's ?

btw as I said in MSN

Love Iron Man :)

But... driving in LA on I-5 I play this :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYRC4H64EFk

Splave 10-21-2009 08:10 AM

so your saying I dont need 10 harddrives anymore ;)

Kal-EL 10-21-2009 01:24 PM

I'm saying with the all new "Drive-WOW" you don't ever need to run 10 hard-drives again!

Just set it and.......................................'FORGET IT!'

Here's the low down:

Installed XP on to a 15 gig partition,
XP#2 onto another 15 gig partition, Pop in vista disk
Vista on a 20 gig
Vista on another 20 gig, pop in 7 c.d.
7 on a 20
7 on a 20

Now, Gents, Wench and Gentile's (hopefuly none in the audience) pop in you're Image For Dos from terabyte unlimited, back up the entire 7 partition install and never install an OS again!

What? You're worried about wanting to resotre individual partitions? Well, craikee, pop in that Image For Dos c.d., click restore, choose which partition you want to restore and BLAM, you've got specific restoration.

For a nominal fee, I can keep poking and prodding Terabyte Unlimited for a promo code for our kickass membership. (J/K on the fee but I've been soliciting them for support here).

Neuromancer 10-21-2009 01:29 PM

Nice

I hope you used your Vista disk to format and make all of those partitions, and not your XP disk ;) :)

Also good idea to ask if the terbyte unlimited matches partition alignment. (Vista uses an even alignment so each sector does not span more than one. XP does not, and 7 puts that stupid 100MB partition on first.

Kal-EL 10-21-2009 01:30 PM

Made the partitions on the fly with each os disk. The latter, Mojave's as you refer to them were installed as logical partitions.

Neuromancer 10-21-2009 01:31 PM

I editted, but you were too quick :p

Chuchnit 10-21-2009 01:54 PM

Hey Kal, when you use your image for DOS on a fresh bench install, how long would a reinstall take? I here Acronis only takes a couple minutes to be back to benching if you hose the OS.

Kal-EL 10-21-2009 02:00 PM

A couple minutes will have all six os running on Terabyte as well. For this particular backup, I used Maximum compression so just about 130gigs was compressed into a 15gig single file back up that can process specific or all partitions.

Chuchnit 10-21-2009 02:05 PM

Oh nice. Might just buy this instead :D

Neuromancer 10-21-2009 03:23 PM

I am a big Acronis fan, but if we can get a benchmarker's special, I am in :)

Should work nicely on my USB boot drive :)

Neuromancer 11-16-2009 01:18 PM

Recreating my boot stick now :) (going to image as soon as I get all the futuremark stuff installed on 7 :)

32 Minutes to create a max compression backup of my TB raid stripe (40-50 GB used spanning 4 partitions to ~10GB in 4 files)

Little slow but works on raid arrays which can sometimes be an issue

LOL oops on of the backups was a waza folder :p

Kal-EL 11-16-2009 01:22 PM

Sounds good homie :D

Witchdoctor 11-16-2009 03:01 PM

Wow looks cool but driver updates must be a killer ........:Dizzy:

Neuromancer 11-20-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchdoctor (Post 17863)
Wow looks cool but driver updates must be a killer ........:Dizzy:

Thanks for that comment :)

Rebuilding my array with a 4 boot setup :)

V64, 7-32 and 2 WinFLP installs. (one 2D one old school 3D)



Imaging it BEFORE I install drivers so should work well if I swap out mobos :)

FACE 11-20-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 18138)
Thanks for that comment :)

Rebuilding my array with a 4 boot setup :)

V64, 7-32 and 2 WinFLP installs. (one 2D one old school 3D)



Imaging it BEFORE I install drivers so should work well if I swap out mobos :)



You may run into some problems swapping boards, especially if the chipsets differ too much, since windows registers devices during install.... You'll know when you do. I've had a project going on for a while where I am attempting to create the ultimate install usb stick.... It's a much bigger task than I originally thought, since different os's use different loaders and what-not.

Neuromancer 11-20-2009 01:16 PM

I have swapped boards alot. I would not recommend anyone else doing it, but so far I have no had trouble but I have not gone from a socket 462 Athlon to an X58 intel chipset yet lol

Uninstall proprietary drivers (IE chipset) things of that nature
power down swap stuff. Power up, wait restart boot back up and install new drivers.

I will be swapping out for a better X58 board next so do not expect any difficulties at all.

I will have a post driver install imaging as well.

Kal-EL 01-11-2010 07:52 AM

The multi-boot madness continues......................


Video coming up on the Overclockaholics Channel on Youtube shortly displaying several operating systems on one boot loaded on one hdd.

Goes something like this.....
1-Win XP Pro KN 32 bit
2-XS OS 32 bit
3-Stripped 3D xp 32 bit
4-XP Pro 64 bit
5-Server 2003 R2 32bit Enterprise
6-Server 2003 R2 64bit Enterprise
7-Vista Ultimate 32 bit
8- Vista Ultimate 64 bit
9-Server 2008 R2 32 bit Datacenter Full
10-Server 2008 R2 64 bit Datacenter Full
11-Windows 7 Starter Edition
12- ***** No Room Left ***** Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
13-******No Room Left***** Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

I miscalculated the sizes that the partitions needed to be for each os. Trial and error. Now I know how much actual space each operating system occupies on its individual partition and compensate for page file and room for 3D benchmark apps and it should be a sweet deal finding out which os has the top guns.

69_Goat 01-11-2010 09:39 AM

WOW!!

That's a lot of OS's.

What size drive are you loading these on ?

Neuromancer 01-11-2010 01:42 PM

IF you are trying to cram Vista/7 onto a 15GB partition, you can do it, you just need to go in and disable pagefile/hibernation and system restore :) Frees up a good 6-10GB depending on RAM installed

As I said via PM, I had Windows 7 at about 7.5GB install size just from those tweaks. Was good for a bench OS but one game install filled the rest of the drive LOL

Jeffro64 01-11-2010 01:56 PM

Oh Boy.... Something new to try!!!!:D

Kal-EL 01-11-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69_Goat (Post 21298)
WOW!!

That's a lot of OS's.

What size drive are you loading these on ?

Its on a single 150gb velociraptor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 21327)
IF you are trying to cram Vista/7 onto a 15GB partition, you can do it, you just need to go in and disable pagefile/hibernation and system restore :) Frees up a good 6-10GB depending on RAM installed

As I said via PM, I had Windows 7 at about 7.5GB install size just from those tweaks. Was good for a bench OS but one game install filled the rest of the drive LOL

Yah, I noticed the page file took up a few gigs. Anybody know off hand how many gigs a full install of benchmarks and driver's takes up? Noprob, I'll find out soon ;)

Kal-EL 01-12-2010 02:06 AM

The video goofed up. Gonna have to make another one. :argh:

Kal-EL 01-12-2010 05:40 AM

Made a new video and decided to do some wprime32m testing. I can tell you that the results/comparisons so far are amazing. Could be the next pot of gold comparison in the making.

Here's the vid:

Kal-EL 01-12-2010 06:11 AM

The quick test system:
EVGA E762 + Intel Xeon 3570 @ 4.15ghz
GTX Classified 285 (Single)
single stick of 2gb ram

And here is some hard data:
xp_Pro_32_kn Results:
wprime:
1st- 8.468sec
2nd- 6.937sec
3rd- 6.843sec
4th- 6.843sec
5th- 6.765sec
6th- 6.765sec
7th- 6.765sec
8th- 6.765sec
9th- 6.734sec
10th-6.734sec
______________________________________________
xs_os Results:
wprime 32m:
1st- 7.756sec
2nd- 7.593sec
3rd- 7.593sec
4th- 7.515sec
5th- 7.515sec
6th- same
7th- same
8th- same
9th- same
10th- same
________________________________________
3Dxp Results:
wprime32m:
1st- 8.125sec
2nd- 6.859sec
3rd- 6.812sec
4th- same
5th- same
6th- same
7th- 6.781sec
8th- same
9th- same
10th-same
________________________________________
XP x64 results:
wprime32m:
1st- 6.906sec
2nd- 6.766sec
3rd- 6.75sec
4th- 6.718
5th- same
6th- same
7th- same
8th- same
9th- same
10th-same
__________________________________________________ ________
Server2003_datacenter_r2 x86:
wprime32m:
1st-6.64sec
2nd-6.625sec
3rd-6.594sec
4th-same
5th-6.562sec
6th-same
7th-same
8th-same
9th-same
10-same
____________________________________________
Server2003_datacenter_r2_x64:
wprime32m:
1st-6.734sec
2nd-6.718sec
3rd-same
4th-6.687sec
5th-same
6th-same
7th-same
8th-same
9th-same
10th-same
____________________________________
VistaUltimatex86:
wprime32m:
1st- 6.052sec
2nd- same
3rd- same
4th- 5.992sec
5th- same
6th- same
7th- same
8th- same
9th- same
10th-same
______________________________________
VistaUltimatex64:
1st- 6.224sec
2nd- 6.053sec
3rd- same
4th- same
5th- same
6th- same
7th- same
8th- same
9th- same
10th-same
______________________________________________
Server2008R2_Datacenter_Enterprisex86:
wprime32m:
1st- 6.006sec
2nd- 5.958sec Speed King :broomstick:
3rd- same
4th- same
5th- same
6th- same
7th- same
8th- same
9th- same
10th-same
___________________________________________
Windows 7 Starter x86:
Wprime32m:
1st- 6.155sec
2nd- 6.115sec
3rd- same
4th- same
5th- same
6th- same
7th- same
8th- same
9th- same
10th-same

Chuchnit 01-12-2010 06:21 AM

OMG you have SO MUCH testing to do hahahahaha. I really feel sorry for you. Quite the surprise on the fastest for wprime though :D

Kal-EL 01-12-2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 21460)
OMG you have SO MUCH testing to do hahahahaha. I really feel sorry for you. Quite the surprise on the fastest for wprime though :D

I dont' have Win7Ultimate 32 and 64 loaded atm but this is just pre-lim testing. I think the information is practically GOLD!

Overclockaholics would be holding the Hwbot Record for i7 920 wprime 32m right now if we had this information while x-mas benching with TheDarkN8 the other week.

Chuchnit 01-12-2010 06:41 AM

Yep, but you can always fill the dewar back up :D

Kal-EL 01-12-2010 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuchnit (Post 21466)
Yep, but you can always fill the dewar back up :D

Gotta wait for the lil bastard to get back up to the house :keeporder:

Neuromancer 01-12-2010 07:11 AM

Sweet call I had read recently that Vista was better than 7 for benching in most everything, but that 2008 beats it, is sweet.

Chuchnit 01-12-2010 07:12 AM

hehehe

I wonder how Server 2008 is gonna do is super pi?

Neuromancer 01-12-2010 07:26 AM

Oh less headbanging when running hte video camera next time :p

Kal-EL 01-12-2010 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuromancer (Post 21481)
Oh less headbanging when running hte video camera next time :p

Was just checkin to see who actually watched it, lol. :thumbsup:

PizzaMan 08-04-2010 10:15 PM

Multiboot not to hard once you learn to use the install disc to fix/rebuild your boot loaders .

XP recovery consule:
"fixboot"
"fixmbr"
(press "Y" after each command. "Exit" to restart)

Vista/W7 recovery consule:
"bootrec fixboot"
"bootrec fixmbr"
(press "Y" after each command. "Exit" to restart)

Once you get this down you can install OSes in any order and not worry about overwriting bootloaders or learning grub.

Neuromancer 08-05-2010 09:42 AM

You still have to run the recovery console in the right order though. Windows XP first then Vista/7 (well technically if you install XP last you only need to run the other RCs :) )

FACE 08-05-2010 11:11 AM

easyBCD is a good proggy to fix and rebuild what boots you. Even handles GRUB... me likey. :thumbsup:

PizzaMan 08-05-2010 07:24 PM

Yep, XP/Win2K first and Vista/W7 loader fix last. :thumbsup:


Used easyBCD a couple years ago. All went well until I used it on both my XP and Vista and ended up with multiple boot options to OSes that didn't exist. I should give it another try.

FACE 08-05-2010 08:50 PM

LOL, funny you mention that... I used to do that to keep the ex out of my shit. I had a Grub loader over the Vista bl that pointed to the wrong partitions.... If she learned how to get into one part, I'd change it to something else.... now THAT was fun. :D


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