Therefore drnips 2073600 pwns your sox off? :eek:

Sorry, you have my apologies. I like this forum alot, and if PURE hadnt formed I was pretty close to asking Kal if I could join hwbot team etc...

I am all for the sharing of information myself, but to ask someone to give away literally hundreds of hours of painstaking and boring testing... Superpi isnt a big secret like some ppl make it out to be. All the needed tweaks are out there, you just have to look, learn and most important test them. I learned more about superpi from testing and running 32M 150 times (for all the testing I did it was at least that many) than I learned from reading all the forums I did (english, french, russian, dutch, german, italian, chinese, japanese, etc).

I would be willing to help with any OS testing you guys want to do. For testing OS I would recommend only using LSC, copywaza and maxmem tweaks. Many XP reg tweaks dont work/arent effective on vista and 7.

What run? Im just browsing his hwbot profile and his 5070mhz @ 7m13.xxx = 2216319 PP

EDIT: I found it, if your talking about his 3200mhz LCC submission? Lower clocks is easier to achieve lower PP.

ahh I see that does make sense :) thanks for clearing that up karma

I will clear this all up guys when I get home. I will run the same settings and same 5 tweaks on my Windows 7 HDD. My bet is on my XP install.

i am going to chime in here with my thoughts as i would fall under the 'pro's' category still using XP. i too believe XP is faster in SPi 32M, with that said, i haven't spent a significant time tweaking W7...actually couldn't say i ran 32M on W7 ever. i have never seen anything to contradict this either.

for you guys getting lower times in W7, can you run your best most tweaked run at 4GHz - 1000MHz 7-7-6 or 7-8-7 even - 4GHz uncore? possibly on a Classified? just for a reference time as there is a ton of data at 4GHz. the average is around 8m 44s for a well tweaked XP on Classified. a screen with CPU Tweaker for memory sub-timings would be great for comparison purposes. different motherboards are going to give different results, RTL/B2B CL/etc... all get set differently by different boards...but from another board would be fine as well.

any other W7 screens at 5GHz or higher would be great as well if you have them so i can compare to my slew of XP work. again Classy would be great but on any MB would do. unfortunately i am not at home right now so i can't partake in any direct comparisons at this time, just able to compare to screenshots i happen to have access to.

karma, I wasn't asking you to hand them out bud. I was just throwing the offer out there. Everybody has there view on tweaks and have every right to keep them to themselves if they wish. Just wanna make that clear.

I will freely share and trade tweaks with any cool peeps, just hit me up on MSN :thumbsup:

lol amusing discussion here
i'm really enjoying the "experts" at work LOL


btw karma it's nice to know that you would have left us for another team as well had you not been invited to PURE....what did we do to you :(

OK here we go. Some what of a comparison. Really my Windows 7 has a big disadvantage here as I am using a slimmed and trimmed nlite version of XP that has all the BS out of it where as I am using a fully loaded Windows 7. Also I was not able to use two of my tweaks on my Windows 7. One of them being Copy Waza as I don't have a partition on this drive and can't set it up the way I want to. That needed to be done on the install. The other tweak I'm not able to disclose right now. Whether that tweak actually has any real world performance, I can't say 100%. I have seen people rave about it but need to do some tests after the competition. Also this Windows 7 has been installed for months now where as my XP is a fresh install as of last week. I used the other three remaining tweaks on this run but whether they have the same effect as they did on XP I dunno as I haven't fully tested them. I think my score prolly would have been at least 3-5sec faster with the other 2 tweaks. There might also be tweaks that I dismissed on my XP install that didn't give me any gains that might of on my Windows 7. Along side my testing of my tweak that I can't reveal I will also do a standard XP and standard Winwos 7 test. Both will be full blown, bloated up installs with no tweaks what so ever to see what the real difference is between the two. I still have my money on XP in the end being faster. Enough of the talk. Here is my disadvatage Windows 7 run with 3 of the 5 tweaks I used on my XP run.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...i32_win7-1.jpg

Dinos its really nothing against you guys please believe me. You, James, George, Kosta, Gino, etc are all great ppl and I still consider you friends (hope its mutual). My decision was based on the fact that I want to advance past an "amateur" level. With i4, all the sponsorship goes to Team AU (rightfully so you guys rock and totally deserve it). I dont have much of a chance to be noticed by manufacturers being an American benching for an Australian team. I tried to first get around that by creating the Uberclocker OC Team, and bringing together some other North American members. I still couldnt get any interest, and I was actually asked by a Kingston rep why I was benching for an .AU team if I want sponsorship from US companies. Now I know your gonna say its going to be even harder to get noticed on a dream team with big names. I see it that way to a degree but also see it as a way to network and possibly make some good contacts. Basically this "hobby" is outgrowing my wallet and if I cant find some support somewhere, im going to have to cash in my chips. This economy has hurt my ebay business quite a lot tbh. Which by proxy means I dont sell as much hardware > less toys to bench with for "free." I really hope you understand where Im coming from. I wish i4 and Team AU nothing but the best. I would do anything I can to help you guys out.

Expect some points soon from my brother ILL-LOGIC hes going to have a bench session with me soon. Should be good for at least a 100 points as he is weak in many benches. Even though hes a lurker (works like crazy and plays games rather than browses forums) he wants to bench hard for you guys. And I willc ertainly help him in all ways possible... :thumbsup:

Get me on MSN man YGPM

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glad its not the 48hr bell

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Lets put a lil of that frustration into the contest guys. Still lonely on top here. LOL

Round 1 ends in 48 hours or at 0700 hours on Friday, July 31, 2009, @ 0700 hours, Hawaii Time.
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here ya go did it on my lunch break for ya :) 8m59s with 4.5gb wazza lsc but 24 processes running :blush:

I better try to get a better run in to make sure I don't get slid at the last minute.

this sucks not being able to play.

awesome, thanks. here is a screen shot of a properly tweaked XP at pretty much the exact same settings. i found one that matches your RTL and subs as close as i could. as i said, i still haven't seen anything to suggest that W7 is even in the same ballpark as XP/2k3 for 32M. even though you are running 3GB and have all 4 cores enabled - which is worth about 4-5 seconds i think compared to 6GB/2 cores enabled - the XP setup is still a lot quicker. this is my standard XP and process for 32M...

click for full size including CPU Tweaker...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...0_4000-1sm.png

Sucks for you Jody but is great for us as we have a chance of winning! JK man.

No prob, so that is with reg tweaks, barebones, lsc etc? Do you use maxmem?
Apparently Im retarded when it comes to tweaking xp because whenever I try maxmem I get worse scores. :eek:

Another thing though is this is x64 windows 7, x32 7 is better by far. I will get a clean install and see what I can pull at those setting to compare.

sounds good, i am interested in the best from W7 so if 32-bit is it, then i would love to see what you can pull off. just remember, enable only 2 cores instead of 4. i assume it is quicker on all OS's. perhaps try with 2 and then run with 4 just to see.

as for my XP setup, it is my best setup i use and i am always at the top of 32M efficiency. my OS isn't the best but close enough. there are definitely guys with better OS's setup in 2K3 or XP. i don't look at 32M tweaking as a specific set of tweaks, sure some are just "tweaks" like LSC, but i look at tweaking 32M as an entire process with setting up the OS.

for instance, maxmem isn't a tweak in the sense LSC is. you don't just enable it or set a value and get better results. maxmem can be used to enable higher stability when on the edge of memory (now uncore as well) clocks. maxmem is also used in conjunction with copy wazza and page file size. specific maxmem values combined with specific copy wazza methods and page file sizes can enhance the effects of copy wazza. it is sort of hard to explain but maxmem isn't what i call an "enable for better times" tweak...hence, why you don't get any gains or actually lose i would imagine.

right on bro, thanks for the info

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the NO CHEATING part? rofl ;) i kid i kid

Yes I read it. I had no internet all night so I was away for awhile.

I like the if your monitor is too small that sucks parts as well

10-4 good buddy...rules read and accepted.

Got it ;)

Yeah, Supes. Rules look good to me.
Can you delete my last score submission? I screwed up the date and time in the text doc. TY

Thought it was 100 post by end of round two, not start. Was close, oh well.

oh it's announced
blah i was gonna do some testing on the weeeknd for this

oh well :(

I have about run 32m until I'm blue! Going back in to try a different angle as this one is tapped out.

hmmm
maybe i will have time to fire up one of the i7 rigs

if i'm not too drunk (friday night) i'll give this a shot

how many runs go though to the second round?

top half of list

Heres a preview for me. Using my micron based memory is really hurting things, as is 3x1GB Vs. 3x2GB kit. Hope it gets me to round two when my elpida hypers will be back in action! Still not to shabby for the slow memory speed im forced to run at...

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so no need to chase down Dr.Nip then hehehe

I still can't believe I am on top.

I probably wont be able to submit at all now that it comes down to it. Theres noway I can get online with this OS (for cpuz and validation). I cant reinstall either because this msi board has no ide channel. I even went out and bought a sata dvd drive from bestbuy. When I try to install from my discs it doesnt see any boot media. only reason Im running is I had a drive is I was setting one up for rampage extreme but never used it. the problem is the OS has no network functions. Ill just play for the sake of it tho. Too bad :/

edit: trying a wireless card
/fingers crossed

I've had nothin but the blues out of my 32m runs as well as GTX 295 runs tonight. Ain't nothin worse than when you come up empty handed. :(