:laughing: yep, that sums it up pretty well :laughing:

I'm DOOM on stream haha

Signed up for the MOtley Fool today. Some good stuff.

Won't post too much of what I read cause I don't want you all to get too bummed out :keeporder:

Similar to stuff you'd find in the nation, the oldest news magazine in the country :). Love me some The Nation. Some people say they have a liberal bias, but these people are conservatives who think that any thought different from theirs is liberal. And of course all these banks credit ratings WERE downgraded.

I wanted to put this in the funniest vid thread, but unfortunately, there's nothing funny about it :ohcrap:

Before you watch, picture in your minds eye the spectacles made by various Democrats over the past weeks claiming allegiance to the "Occupy Wallstreet" protesters. Barak Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel, Micheal Moore and on and on and on. Funny how this group on the video constantly appears at rallies held by George Soro's army of ants...

Famous John Lennon song re-written to fit todays protestors

A MUST VIEW PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

I'm not trying to sell his whatever, I don't get a kickback. Posting this for your info only because I also believe the shit is about to hit the fan.

http://agorafinancial.com/reports/AW...=330261&r=Milo

WHOA DUDE
 

Remember those "cartoons" put up using the website where you type in the text and it generates characters to speak it? Well, this one had to be done on the super premium edition of that software :shock:

It is a non-partisan production demanding our government return to the Constitutioinal Republic. A position I for one fully endorse.

Very stirring, and about fucking time

Computer voice is annoying.

lol can't argue with that one :D

ATLAS SHRUGGED
 

If you haven't seen it, you have to see it. It is scary as all hell :eek:

Part 1 is on pay per view now.

The story, written my Ayn Rand decades ago could be based on the events of the past couple years and depicts what a lot of economists are warning about. Also depicts how progressive politicians will make it worse. (don't get pissed, just telling you about the movie)

Story starts in 2016, gas is over $36 bucks a gallon due to chaos in the middle east. There are no more commercial airlines and trains are the only economical way to ship freight.

There are extremely wealthy, and people walking around with their resumes as Vice Presidents on sandwich boards looking for work.

The politicians create laws to make everything more "fair" and destroy jobs and lives by doing so. An elete few business men are approached by an unidentified man in a hat who offers them a country where government doesn't intrude and they inevitably "disappear" as they leave the US.

Prosperous States are penalized to help the less prosperous States.

The main bad guy politician is a dead wringer for Barak Obama in his thinking and way of doing things. Only difference is he's white and overweight.

Want to see where our future is going - see the movie!

My wife actually read the novel and says the movie is true to the novel.

Many liberal organizations went to great lengths to try and stop this movie from being made. It is easy to see why while you are watching it.

Remember, this book was written several decades ago, but could have been fashioned out of today's headlines - scarier than shit man.

WATCH IT :D

While I appreciate your Zeal in this current economic downturn, and considering my own proclivity towards Cyberpunk mythos style literature I think you are missing the point of the novel, err movie...

Atlas was a the guy in greek mythology that was sentenced to bear the weight of the world. Statues have him arms up and back holding the planet on his shoulders.

Shrugging (bumping your shoulders up for a second) would shake up the world. But since this is a literary sense and not a literal suggestion, the world survives the event and comes out as strong(er) as/than ever.

In effect a shake up, that betters life.

TBH; I will have to watch the movie because I do not remember the book that well, read it almost 30 years ago, when I was a prolific reader. Now I am mind numbed by Internet and have not even completed Gibson's Burning Chrome series *sigh.

EDIT: Oh, ok. I ddefintiely do not remmber the book well, Just googled the wiki bits. While they do not actively state it is an anti-communist literature... that is what it is. The Bad times are full of "statism" which in Rands timeline meant the big red scare and start of the cold war.

TBH, you dont have to play the socialist card with me, I think Republicans are pretty socialist too. Im a libertarian though. I think the feds are there to prevent states from going crazy with laws. And run the military.

Being of Greek decent, I'm aware of Atlas and carrying the world etc.

I think you have your libertarian credentials a little skewed, as libertarians believe the Federal government should have little to no rold in running the country - which, of course, is the job of the states (at least per the Constitution). The Fed can only perform those duties as strictly outlined in the Constitution, which includes running the military, but has nothing to do with dictating social polices to the states.

Your definition leads to the Federal Government restricting the rights of some for the good of the many, which is, no offense, the main tenant of socialism.

My wife read the book and she says the movie is loyal to the book. Her interpretation of the book was that it promoted self determination with the Federal Government staying as much out of the picture as possible. Part 1 of the movie depicts crooked politicians conspiring with greedy business men [Edit Added:] to insure that only they win and everyone else gets screwed [End Edit Added]. Something eerily akin to what is currently happening to our economy now. From Hoover, Roosevelt, Johnson, Carter, and now Obama.... pushing for a society that is "fair". I'm telling you, you could take the speech out of the end of the movie and it would sound just like Obama talking :eek:

Life ain't fair, and penalizing the successful to take care of less fortunate destroys the foundation that Capatalism is based on. This coming from a guy who's been unemployed for a year :P (don't even THINK of touching my unemployment pay :rofl: )

Part II isn't out until Fall of 2012 so as soon as I finish the book I'm reading now I'm going to read Atlas Shrugged. If you read it too, we could have an online debate :D

I did not want to presume anything about your knowledge of mythology :)

But my understanding of libertarian is identical to yours, so not sure why you think its skewed. Yes the individual states will be responsible for the day to day, but the fed government does still exist to make sure universal truths are upheld (IE the constitution)

MD, read Faith of the Fallen by Terry Goodkind. Very Ayn Rand-ish, without the boring.

A good 60 minutes episode. Could have been part of Atlas Shrugged - crooked politicians and businessmen/women. except, this is real life. Gotta watch the movie that's embedded in the web page

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/60-m...e-information/

Patch, I'll read your book, but first I gotta read Atlas Shrugged so I can see for myself how it tracks in the movie. Besides, can't wait until Fall of 2012 to find out how it ends :laughing:

Neuromancer, smart man - I don't know shit about Greek mythology :rofl:

Short the Euro, while you can :cool3:

http://www.yolohub.com/economy/the-c...nd-of-the-euro

I'm starting to buy art I like to supplement long term plans and spread eggs to some different baskets. I want something I can see and hold and I don't like gold enough to risk hopping on an expanding bubble.

Trying to acquire the original paintings of cover art to paperbacks I loved as a kid. Man, I wish I could afford a nice Frazetta......

Figure I can enjoy them for the next 30 years, then sell to help fund retirement. If they're worthless at that time then anywhere else I put my money probably will be too. Ammo and seeds will be the new currency. :)

Yep :thumbsup:

I have few hundred comic books that are from the early to late 70's if you like comic art. Also have most of the first five years of Omni Magazine, which was avante garde art.

Don't forget to insure your art in case of fire :eek:

A VIDEO YOU MUST WATCH
 

I know gold is a bad investment. Foxnews not only have commercials selling it, but hawk it on their news programs.

(Good investment 5-6 years ago when it was $400 an ounce, but it shot up way to much over the last few years (400%) if anything now is the time to SELL your gold :) )

But foxnews dont tell you that...

I don't remember the video having anything to do with gold :Dizzy:

Actually, most analysts are saying hold your gold and buy on future downturns

I was reading your guys posts about Art as an investment.

I tend to not click links anymore so just ignored that post :Hi: :)

Art is a great investment, so long as you don't mind holding until years after your dead for your heirs to collect :laughing:

LEARN ABOUT YOUR PRESIDENT - CALL ME BARRY OBAMA
 

Interesting films out from Obama's college days

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgOy7...eature=related

Oh damn politics I'm leaving!

Gold is good when money is bad, also if the dollar should fail gold was used long before bills and coins. In case of a war, gold is bought up during uncertain economic times like now, by people who have money. But a smart investor would have bought it right before our economy went to chit three and half years ago.

Better yet, when it was 300 bucks an ounce :argh:

I was gonna buy $5,000 worth of Qualcom years back like the eighties when it first went public, I'd have been a millionaire ova nite.

All the others must be up ski high too, like Silver, Plat., ETC.

BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID
 

http://finance.moneyandmarkets.com/r...LST&ec=4977106

Not rocket science if you have all the data like he does

PS. This is non political, I post it as a public service to my brothers. Watch it or don't as you see fit. No need to respond that you didn't watch it because... because... I don't really care one way or the other :rofl:

DOLLAR TO LOSE RESERVE CURRENCY STATUS?
 

Just announced that Taiwan will begini trading with the mainland in Yuan, instead of US Dollars. Other countries are starting to do this as well.

China is being very aggressive in promoting this. If the USD loses status of the world's reserve currency, we are basically fubar.

Another video, no need to buy the service at the end, the info in the video is enuF

http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.c...NXC&ec=4958113

Is it December yet?

12/22 was it ?? :D

8 months n four days:ohcrap:

Just about the amount of time Iran will need to develop their nuke, and detonate it inside of Israel :eek: This, according to the Iranians will bring back the 12th Imam, who is known in Christianity as the Anti-Christ.

Should be interesting :shock:

It's actually 12/21.
North Korea is a much bigger nuclear threat than Iran is. I don't see that changing anytime this year. BTW, Iran and N. Korea have been collaborating on ICBM and nuclear technology since the mid 1990's, so I'm not surprised at all.

Besides.......everybody knows Time Warner is the antichrist.;)

Times Warner? :laughing: I thought it was Tom Cruise :rofl:

If you compare the Mulim coming of the 12th Imam to the Christion End of Days, they are almost identical in every detail .... then of course there is the Incas :laughing:

Sounds like a pain in Mayan ass.

Inca's , Mayan's, yurines, :laughing:

Yeah, think you're right... except maybe the part about a pain in their ass :laughing: They're dead and long buried, won't feel a thing :D

I'm really not big into ancient prophecies... it's the current numbers that worry me :scared:

Well is that GMT -6? Cuz that is where the mayans resided mostly. Does it occur at exactly midnight or 12 hours and 21 minutes after?

Just curious so I can prepare :)