Yeah, it definately looks cool, no question about that. But I'll take the functionality or a F1EE or Venom any day. Not to knock it too hard, I'm sure it's a great tube, just seems kind of expensive for the functionality it delivers.

Do not assume anything.

This far more than just a see through pot. There has been a great amount of design work that has been done with this pot and it is far more than just a few holes drilled in the base.

Vince is not selling his pot yet and it does have it's share of problems that go along with it.

If all you look at is just the price then you missed the point. Being on the top edge of new tech and involved in the process is what it is all about for me.

I also have a F1 and find it to be a great pot, but for extreme sub zero it also has its share of problems. Has anyone here ever run a F1 at -195c for any length of time ?

Run your F1 on a hot Core I7 at -130c and tell me what you think. You would find that it cannot hold the desired temp with out constant attention. Take it even colder and hotter cpu and you can pour non stop LN2 into the pot and find it hard to keep as close as possible to max temp.

AMD chips need max temps as long as possible for extreme benching. That requires a lot of volume of LN2 to burn off while the bench is being run. The new design concentrates the cooling effect right where it matters, at the base with its new design. Swing is not an issure, or has very small effect with this setup, you simply do not need a large mass of of copper to hold the cold.

Even with Vinces new pot Vemion the pot is not solid copper all the way to the top like the F1 is. If Vince were to make his pots out of the same material that this new pot is it would be a pot for people with very deep pockets.

I am not taking anything away from Vince, he makes very fine pots, I have 5 LOL ! But there is also other ways to do this, and perhaps they might just be better or at least be another tool for extreme cooling.

I look forward to testing this next weekend and be sure to watch for the write ups.

Oh I don't assume anything except that this pot is one bad mama-jama. I would do anything to have a see thru pot. Prolly would fork out $600 for one too. I was simply quoting the price which I think is feasible for this caliber of pot.

The base itself took several days to machine, from lathe work to mill work.

This is not a pot to be used with Core I7 either, it can be but it's really made to hold max LN2 temps that AMD chips require.

I'm sure it'll be a killer pot :thumbsup: looking forward to your impressions and to seeing it get every drop of performance out of the TWKR

That was a cool video Buckeye. Will have to show the wifey that one, maybe she'll cave and let me try LN2.

i remember having a pci 6200 and thought that was an awesome gamer

I remember my E8600 /790i Ultra. Didn't have a cold bug at -50 to -60. :(

jeez... I remember when 12Mhz 286's were considered sizzling hot, and hugely expensive. I remember 300 baud modems that you used to have to dial the phone first then quickly plug in the modem. I remember when 6K was the best you buy at the store (Vic 20). I remember when the screaming 48K Radio Shack computer hit the market and blew everyone away. I remember $2,000 2MB Hard Drives (that always crashed).. I remember too much LOL

I remember when 10GB HDD's were alot of space!!!

I remember when a floppy was a 5 1/4" floppy that was floppy!!!


Hell forget Windows I remember rockin DOS on my IBM PC Jr. 128 and playing Kings Quest on it!!! No mouse and all.