the 480 lightning is good...whats wrong with it?

some do 1100 some do 1400 lol too much of a variation imo

Someone isn't paying attention. 95% of them did 1100.

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Bin the fucking things ........... period

MSI needs to make every lightning scream as marketed IMO

you really suggesting binning them? like the 980x some are good some aren't.

its the same game. calling them fail is a fail deduction in itself

IDK about that. Try spending a few thousand on them and not getting a good one then get back to me on that.

I obviously disagree with that deduction.... apples and oranges my friend

there is no 980X other than the one from Intel.... they do not market any batch to be better than another ... you simply buy a 980X and hope for the best

MSI throws out cherries to sponcered heavy weights and markets these to be da buam LN2 cards .... we are targeted, make no mistake..

It is a shame so many of us end up being disapointed ...... :shock:

All I am am asking from MSI if they are marketing them as hot rods AKA better than the other guys card, they should take the responcibility of making sure they are.

looking at the results from msi lightnings 480s...i don't think they're binning...

here's the 480s...use 1xgpu
http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/videoc...0?tab=rankings

17 out of top20 single vantage are from msi.

LOL ..............

Honda, I am not going to argue about the suceess of these cards

When you get a good one it is great ..... no argument there

My problem is how many thousands of cards did it take to find those 17 :Dizzy:

But nuff said on this, Suffice to say I won't be rolling the dice on an overpriced lottery ticket anytime soon

Sometimes hwbot can be decietful I think. Especially with the highest of high end gear. The sample size is naturally going to be very small in one hand due to cost, and in the other the top end gear is what the manufacturers are going to be pushing out to the sponsered guys. You end up with a large proportion of the results from sponsered clockers who got to bin who knows how many samples before you see what they posted??

I think what Witchdoctor is trying to say is that for the price premium and the crazy amount of marketing (ln2 jumpers and whatnot) that the norm should be that the cards perform better than most ref cards. If they didn't market them so hard with hand selected samples to advertise their dominance over ref cards, then it would be no harm, no foul.