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Default Coldbug Drift?

Often I'll get a new CPU or mobo and get all excited when it doesn't have much or any coldbug the first time I freeze it, but I can never attain those temps again.

Any ideas as to why?

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980x: on Classy 762 seemed to cold bug in -135 range initially, but with later benches can't get much colder than -120. Same CPU on R3E benched at -150 initially without bugging (didn't try colder at the time), then started to bug at -135, now bugs at -127.

Is this an insulation thing? Mobo? CPU? Or is it simply tightening too tight? - Maybe I get more aggressive as I get more comfortable with a rig....... But loosening never really seems to help.

I've had this problem with 2 980x's, 3 i5 670's and a number of Bloomfields. A couple of the i5's would even go to "full pot" on the first run, then cripple me at the -130ish range thereafter.

Do CPU's just tolerate less cold after a while?
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I seem to have the opposite "problem", at least during one bench session. The longer I bench the colder I can go without bugging out ?? As example, first CB may hit at -128C, subsequent one kicks in at -138C, then it jumps to around -158C
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1. cpu degradation
2. cap degradation? ive yet to get my capacitance meter adn test this
3. cpu pot mount....

thats my list for now...
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not goin with degradation as the cause....my theory lies in moisture as the cause.
If I take my eraser off and open the socket to the elements for a period of time, the cb seems to be what it was initially.
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retraction and expansion?

Here's a read about Martian surface temperatures and solder.

http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/b.../05-3335FN.pdf
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Thanks guys. Very good tips. And you get the prize RM for the coolest article referenced on a forum.

Gonna de-insulate before the next session and see what happens. With my half-decent fermi and a rockin IMC on the CPU, if I could get it really cold I think I could crush a few benches.
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I discovered something weird the other day ... when running 2 sticks of ram I have no CB, with 3 installed it bugs at -120??

Which explains why I could run triple channel on my SS just fine, but could never run it on ln2.
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I discovered something weird the other day ... when running 2 sticks of ram I have no CB, with 3 installed it bugs at -120??

Which explains why I could run triple channel on my SS just fine, but could never run it on ln2.

Shammy posted that info on a new locked multi GT the other day. He had CB -150 with triple channel and no coldbug with dual channel.

Holy crap - can't wait to try it. I'm off next week. Almost time to play.
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