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Hondacity 07-21-2010 07:59 AM

DDR3 Subtimings / Timing Control
 
Prelude

uncore multi(980x) - 1.5x of ram
*1.5x only for 980x
**eva formula to be added later

vtt set to 1.4v ..uncore can go as high as 4.2ghz

DRAM Timing Control

CAS Latency(tCL) 6/7/8 depends from memory chipsips..psc/hyper/sams
RAS to CAS Delay(tRCD) 6/7/8 depends on memory
RAS - PRE Time(tRP) 4/5/6/7/8 can be equal to..or less than tCL ......4 and 5 are veryyyy tight

RAS - ACT Time(tRAS) .tRAS(minimum)=tCL + tRCD + 2.
**frm tweakers.fr & frm mushkin..
***tRAS is also sum of first 3 subtimings(wiki)... tRAS=tCL + tRCD +tRP

tRAS = 15-17 tight

RAS to RAS Delay(tRRD) default/stock = 7, the lower the better 6 , 5, 4(gtr) , 3 2 1 doable with hypers

REF Cycle Time(tRFC) - higher for tripple channel. (50-1xx) Auto? 53 doabled
WRITE Recovery Time(tWR) 12//13/14/15/16 .....formula:tWR=tRAS-tRCD = 24-8 =16, 21-7 = 14, 18-6 =12, 11 doabled
WRITE to PreCharge Time(tWTP) 21(minimum-very tight)-29(for high clocks )......formula:


Write to Read Delay (tWTR) usually: 2 - 8

READ to PRE Time(tRTP) 6/7/8/9
FOUR ACT WIN Time - 35/36/37/38/39/40/41/42/43/44/45 ....1 is doabled
Back-To-BackCAS Delay must be disabled or set to zero.

tRC= tRAS + tRP
tRC from xp is around 43-45

Timing Mode - auto sets this to around 60+, typically (63.65.66)...some do @ 55,56..57
Round Trip Latency on CHA
Round Trip Latency on CHB must be RTL_CHA +1 or +2
Round Trip Latency on CHC must be RTL_CHB +1 or +2,

RTL = xxx need to convert formula from RAJA

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) auto
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) auto
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) auto
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) auto
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) auto
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) auto
READ To READ Delay(DD) auto
READ To READ Delay(DR) auto
READ To READ Delay(SR) auto
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) auto
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) auto
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) auto

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QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -- same as vtt - intel specs (980x 1.4vmax)....
DRAM Bus Voltage -- must not be more than 0.5v of vtt - use 1.66v not 1.64v...i prefer 1.7xv

>DRAM REF Voltages - higher might help...must be the same.
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA 0.75v
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA 0.75v
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB 0.75v
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB 0.75v
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC 0.75v
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC 0.75v


newstuff
Quote:

*Tested on EVGA P55 FTW & EVGA P55 FTW 200 main-boards with Intel Core i7 CPU
*When setting up your EVO TWO 2500MHz C9 Dual Channel Kit on the EVGA P55 FTW and P55 FTW 200 Motherboards, please do the following: Please go to Frequency/Voltage Control and leave the DIMM Voltage as [AUTO] then select Memory Configuration to set DRAM tRFC from 80 (default) to 110.


****this is not final.
*****suggestions/tips?
******colors? :D

********************red = near limit....

Hondacity 08-22-2010 12:39 PM

so done with sp32m

now time for some ddr3 tweaking....

so far 2000 7-8-7 is stable...but subtimings are effin loose...either gigabyte sucks or its just the way it is...

will post some notes...

will be using sp1m or everest as benchmark.....

need this perfected tonight...

Hondacity 08-23-2010 07:00 PM

1 Attachment(s)
i'll be houdini on this for awhile...

here's a super example from george from greece

Hondacity 08-28-2010 11:48 AM

elpida hypers have cold bugs.... i just found out...wasted 5hrs...

new numbers for those with subzero mems later...

ram tweaking is fun :D

Hondacity 09-07-2010 05:08 AM

updated....

DrNip 09-07-2010 05:28 AM

Great info here bud!

Hondacity 09-07-2010 05:41 AM

thanks

all my settings are from bios boooooots perfectly :D....

cpu tweaker is only useful with tRFC LOL.....

testing with another bios...asus rocks with new bios...

Neuromancer 09-07-2010 05:57 AM

RTL is tricky. Not sure what it must be higher than, at least TRFC though.

When I was running 5-6-5 1400 with 42TRFC I could run 50-52-53 RTL when I loosened it to 6-6-6 and 1700+ I had to drop TRFC to 58 and RTL to 60-62-63 to get it to boot IIRC

(I took notes but cant understand them LOL)

Hondacity 09-07-2010 06:03 AM

RTL tested...

52-54-56 no boot
53-55-57 no boot
54.......

i settled with 58-60-62 ..works with 16xxmhz or 20xx mhz...

Splave 09-07-2010 06:12 AM

58 60 60 should work too :)

Neuromancer 09-07-2010 06:23 AM

Dunno if the R3E has MCH strap, if it does which are you using?
and do you notice any effect from it when you manually set every mem subtiming?

Hondacity 09-07-2010 06:25 AM

there are three levels of ram subtimings for r3e...

setting them all manually ...ummm it works heheheh...

there is no mch strap for bios 901...


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