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Kal-EL 12-25-2009 10:54 AM

The New Hwbot
 
http://hwbot.org/article/news/how_to...kthrough_guide

Kal-EL 12-25-2009 11:11 AM

Looks like NBOC has a new competitor based on the beta bot.

DrNip 12-25-2009 11:30 AM

I'm excited. Just put a little more fun into overclocking if you ask me. I welcome the change.

Witchdoctor 12-26-2009 01:55 AM

I have not had time to really look at this but my understanding is these dual GPU cards are going to take a beating .... sucks as my 295 numbers are going to drop off considerable ..... I will be going single card CF/SLI and so on for now on .....

Not sure of all the implications but will have to take some time to read what's up.

I think this will change to landscape considerable in 2010 for all the teams. teams that did not rely on these two GPU monsters for global boints will have the upper hand to say the least ......

NBOC will adapt to overcome this temperary set back as I am sure OCA will do the same

Kal-EL 12-26-2009 02:09 AM

We're just puttering along atm. It's like surfing, sometimes you gotta wait for the big set.

69_Goat 12-26-2009 07:56 AM

It's hard to say where we all stand til the dust settles.
From what I've seen so far, I lost a bunch of global boints, but picked up a shitload of hwboints.
They must be still screwing with the formulas because points are fluctuating up and down
everytime I look.
We'll see when rev3 is official.

punx223 12-26-2009 09:28 AM

looks like im gonn ahave to knock the dust off the X58 and start beating on it :D

Bones 12-26-2009 03:36 PM

Yep, looks like the rankings will be shaken up but good once the final changes are made.
Need to watch those and see where I finally wind up, then go from there.

Kal-EL 12-26-2009 03:53 PM

who the hell knows nowadays. one minute ur coming, next ur going. Just bench because u love it ;)

lakeside2189 12-26-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 20264)
who the hell knows nowadays. one minute ur coming, next ur going. Just bench because u love it ;)

yup!!!!! That is the deal....:clapping:

punx223 12-26-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-EL (Post 20264)
who the hell knows nowadays. one minute ur coming, next ur going. Just bench because u love it ;)

im gonna bench because i hate you :ohcrap::taunt:

RomDominance 12-26-2009 07:36 PM

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Back Gato! Back!
Little benchin for the holidays, thought you might like the duo-dice action Supers.
Fortified my single card Vantage pretty well today I think...enjoy and all my best guys!
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DrNip 12-27-2009 02:04 AM

Hurry up and wait. That seems to be life for ya.

Jeffro64 12-27-2009 04:26 AM

Just when I was starting to figure out the old bot they go and change things before I come back!:ohcrap::argh::argh::argh:

Kal-EL 12-27-2009 02:59 PM

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O.k. guys, take this screenshot with a grain of salt, its based on a very old database of hwbot points and countless submissions have been submitted since this data was retrieved. So basically you cannot truely determine where you will stand once it goes "Live".

Here it is.
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DrNip 12-28-2009 02:05 AM

Yeah I'm not fully understanding the 3d scoring I guess, mainly the 01. That appears to have taken a big loss in points. More or less the loss it is the global points are gone or at least on some submissions or something. Maybe they haven't figured them all in yet. I dunno. For instance my 3d01 - 2x gtx 260 - 108,486 submission went form 26 points to only 1.5 points. No global points for it on the new database. Then again it might have to do something with the dual GPU's and they are stealing the global points in 3d01. I haven't ran mine in that bench. Going to have to give that a try and see where it gets me when it goes live. I see everybody has low points in that bench too. Have to wait and see I guess.

Gunslinger 12-28-2009 02:34 AM

It is probably the dual card that is reducing the points. The new system is weighted more on popularity of the hardware vs. actual score results. Early peeks at the new rev, single card G80 results will be awarding the most 3D points. Old C2D chips look to be awarding the most CPU points...

lakeside2189 12-28-2009 05:00 AM

I see the thread in look at the beta hwbot is working again...I also see that no submissions for the 5970 or subs for the last 10 days or so have been added....Just like Kal said...

RomDominance 12-28-2009 06:19 AM

If the test server is up and you don't mind sharing the link, I would like to have a look at it. Thanks in advance.:thumbsup:

Kal-EL 12-28-2009 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomDominance (Post 20333)
If the test server is up and you don't mind sharing the link, I would like to have a look at it. Thanks in advance.:thumbsup:

Sry bud, gotta respect the wishes of the RichBastard. Its just a short wait now. Wednesday the server will go LIVE! Yep, this Wednesday ;)

Mr.Scott 12-28-2009 01:53 PM

HWBot must truly be a rich man's hobby, as the older platforms can no longer compete on the same level. CP looses over 1300 hard earned points and becomes destined to move down the list. I was a fool to think that we might even have a chance to compete on an even keel.

Gunslinger 12-28-2009 02:40 PM

It's up now for the public:

http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?...&postcount=430

blows though, lost 182 boints....:thumbdown:

Kal-EL 12-28-2009 02:50 PM

It's not using nearly the most recent submissions. Check you're profile for some of you're latest boint runs Gunny.

It'll look much different when its updated with current info.

Gunslinger 12-28-2009 02:53 PM

I have not benched in 2 months, pretty sure the cornholeing I got is correct. 40K in vantage gets no points, that just ain't right...

Kal-EL 12-28-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 20372)
I have not benched in 2 months, pretty sure the cornholeing I got is correct. 40K in vantage gets no points, that just ain't right...

Something must be bugged cuz CP got hosed on the points and OCA is in the 3500 country.

Gunslinger 12-28-2009 02:58 PM

lol, 6th highest score in the world, 3DM03, 5.3 points :trophy:

welcome to the new and imporved Failbot

Witchdoctor 12-28-2009 03:15 PM

Didn't seem like it was broke .....

Not sure why they fixed it ???

Neuromancer 12-28-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott (Post 20364)
HWBot must truly be a rich man's hobby, as the older platforms can no longer compete on the same level. CP looses over 1300 hard earned points and becomes destined to move down the list. I was a fool to think that we might even have a chance to compete on an even keel.

That freaking sucks. I am a "poor" overclocker though, and for some reason my points went way way up.

By poor I mean I am usually one generation behind on any given hardware. But I did get to play with i7 for while :) Although most of my points are from AMD still.

RomDominance 12-28-2009 04:00 PM

I lost over 200bts and have no global in 01, 03 or 05...guess we wait and see what the deal is in a few more days. obamanomics hits the bench community with a vengence, redistribution of boints lmao:blink:

Kal-EL 12-28-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomDominance (Post 20380)
I lost over 200bts and have no global in 01, 03 or 05...guess we wait and see what the deal is in a few more days. obamanomics hits the bench community with a vengence, redistribution of boints lmao:blink:

ROLF!x10

thebanik 12-28-2009 06:14 PM

Though my points didnt drop much but my rank has dropped drastically, looks like its easier to get boints on the new failboat for many.....

DrNip 12-29-2009 01:36 AM

I just hope they have put some work into the slowness of their site. It kills me at times. I see they have a new category for max FSB. I wonder if that is going to include max BCLK or if that will be a different category. I hope a different category as there is quite a contrast there. I am liking the new achievements they have. I feel for Classic Platforms though as it looks like they are taking a big hit in points. All in all the Bot has knocked the skin off the ball on this new revision. Oh and that 3d problem I mentioned a couple pages ago are now fixed today and awarded more points on my best 3d benches. Looks like it was them not having the global points awarded yet. They most of heard me. :laughing:

Witchdoctor 12-29-2009 06:56 AM

Yea CP took it hard but OCA seems to have benefited


It sucks for CP as I feel the new format basically dismisses the hardware they have worked so hard on mastering ... not cool IMO


They need to just leave ti alone IMO

Bones 12-30-2009 10:33 AM

It could also mean discouraging new OC'ers from getting into the sport too. Not everyone can afford the new stuff and must make do with what's available to them. With a economy still trying to recover and no real upswing in jobs resulting in hours being trimmed down for those of us still working, that makes it more of an issue.
I'm thankful to still have my job at least and just getting by for now with not alot of $$ to spare on stuff, otherwise I would have replaced the bad DDR3 RAM in my AM3 build by now along with other improvements.

lakeside2189 12-30-2009 12:22 PM

Looks like they are changing it as we speak!!!!! As a friend in the top 50 said...The top 100 will be forced to bench the older stuff which in return will lower the scores of the ones below in time..short time!!!! As it is now these scores have not been messed with..That will change...Also people will be shooting for the ORB score rather than the Bots score...

Neuromancer 12-30-2009 03:49 PM

Still down for upgrades. I am interested to see what exactly has changed because when I looked at it last it did not make a lot of sense to me. I understand the GPU change, but not what happened to the CPU stuff.

lakeside2189 12-30-2009 03:57 PM

Did you notice everybody's point sig is down..Must be into it....I looked yesterday and was shocked..I was actually up 5 points from before....I never even joined Bots until I started with the I7....:blink:

I thought for sure i would wipe out......

thebanik 12-30-2009 05:31 PM

Though it definitely is great for me but 3d rankings instead of GPU's should have been based on cards. With rev3 5870 will be the top most single GPU card which is as such great for a short on cash OCer like me, but I am sure sales on 5890 and dual GPU's would drop drastically....Also as Neuro said changes in CPU cores doesnt make much sense IMO but I wont complain, according to the test server I am pretty close to Top most ranking for 1 core processors which has netted me a good amount of hardware points......

DrNip 12-31-2009 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakeside2189 (Post 20533)
Did you notice everybody's point sig is down..Must be into it....I looked yesterday and was shocked..I was actually up 5 points from before....I never even joined Bots until I started with the I7....:blink:

I thought for sure i would wipe out......


You will have to go to the signature page and force a refresh, Ctrl + F5.

rickss69 12-31-2009 01:28 AM

From 450+ points to this...total horseshit.

http://hwbot.org/community/user/rickss69?tab=profile


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