Vivi
06-27-2009, 02:15 PM
Sup all overclockingholics!
In this thread we dicsuss / ask/ and play some 3dmark2001.
It's worse than i feared on this forum and I have seen some 2001 runs in vista. So let me put on my cryo suite and set my teaching mode to MAXIMUM BASICS.
Let me start of with what I can teach you.
!Summary!
•!!USE THE D3D OVERRIDER IN RIVATUNER for NVIDIA CARDS!! *a show how below*
•DO NOT RUN IN DIAGNOSTICS MODE
•MEMORY TIMINGS AND PL TIGHT
•High as possibly SAFE PCI-E FREQ (110 - 115 is safe)
•Nvidia controll panel, set gpu 3D to "Performance", NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE.
•Fresh install of !XP! NO OTHER OS. you will loose about 2000 points at LEAST if not in xp.
•USE Socket 775 CPU. i7 is Generally very bad for 2001, your nature score gets a serious cap, you will never reach 1200 or 1400.
•Nvidia cards normally RULE this benchmark unless you can somehow get your 4870's in crossfire to 1200 core each. (4890's not as strong due to new drivers)
•!!LEVEL OF DETAIL!!! *Described below*
----------------TESTS - System stabilty factors. (What the tests focus on) ---
LobbyH - MEMORY CPU GPU : HEAVY
CarH - CPU GPU : MILD
DragothicH - MEMORY GPU-MEM : MILD
LobbyL - MEMORY CPU : HEAVY
DragothicL - MEMORY CPU: MILD
CarL - CPU : CHILLED
Nature - GPU : HEAVY | MEGA CHILLED cpu
Now, very important. Running the tests in a specific order.
The most common order to run your tests in, is like this below.
1st CarH
2nd LobbyH
3rd DragothicH
4th LobbyL
5th DragothicL
6th CarL
7th Nature
Why run it in a specific order?:
Because you could get an increase in framerate when a certain test is run closer to the Boot. (closer to when your pc was put on).
Like: this can happen.
if run in the normal order:
car low : 600 fps
car high: 400 fps
Lobby low: 1000 fps
Lobby high: 500 fps
this could happen when run in the order above
Car high: 420 fps
Lobby high: 510 fps
lobby low : 1000 fps
car low: 600 fps
The LOW'S KEEP THEIR FPS. but the HIGH'S suffer when not run EARLY. so you GAIN score.
How do i run it in order?:
Select "CHANGE" like shown.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4646/32147792.jpg
Then in the second window click "CLEAR" like shown. THEN select ONE test. For instance CAR HIGH. then click OK and then RUN THE BENCHMARK.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/466/58075541.jpg
only one test will be ran. THEN REPEAT the process, click CHANGE, deselect car HIGH and select the SECOND test you have to run in the order, which is LOBBY HIGH, then click OK with only the ONE test (lobby high) selected and RUN THE BENCHMARK. you repeat this process untill you get a SCORE AFTER CAR LOW the 6TH TEST IN THE SEQUENCE. THEN run nature and you will get your FINAL SCORE.
What is the whole CAR LOW bussiness?
Car low is a buggy test. After you get to car low (the 6th test you have to run in the order) you will run it and get for instance 800 fps. and a total score of 64 000. Now, click BENCHMARK AGAIN, without changing anything, so what your doing is just RUNNING CAR LOW again. this time your score might be 63 800, THEN RUN IT AGIAN, and maybe get 63 890, it will jump around allot, but keep RUNNING IT (EVEN UP TO 10 OR 15 TIMES, until you get a strange JUMP in score or Frames.) like instead of 64 000 , you now score 64 200, or 64400 even. (a 20 or more fps boost, from like 700 to 722 OR EVEN MORE).
THEN you run nature and get your final good score!
Now that you have RUN ORDER nailed down, we get on to running each test with a specific LOD. short for, LEVEL OF DETAIL.
This is how you change your level of detail.
Open Rivatuner.
Then follow the image:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/715/3lod.jpg
Now on your screen you will have this tab.
ONLY YOURS WILL SHOW a MAXIMUM OF LOD 3, AND NOT 15 LIKE MINE.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8732/4lod.jpg
You will need up to 5 so how you can change your max of 3, you do this.
Go to tab "power user" , ignore the warning, go to nvidia global and change the lod MAX to 15. click apply.
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7369/5lod.jpg
Now go back to your LOD setting's screen. (The pic with the LOD slider that is now 15 at max)
You still run in the order i told you. BUT before you run it, you change the LOD in rivatuner.
So what you do is.
1. Open riva - change lod, clock your card.
2. Run test 1 (CAr high) on the specfic LOD it likes (lod's for tests explained below)
3. After test 1 is run, open riva and change the lod to what the 2nd test (lobby high) likes.
Then continue this till you reach the end of your 3dmark 2001 run. (you dont have to change the lod for car low each time you run it, LOD sticks like your graphics clocks)
The most important test which uses LOD is NATURE. make sure you know the correct LOD for your card and NATURE.
MOSTLY, for NVIDIA based graphics cards, the best LOD for nature is 4.9 , 5 , or 5.1.
Why change the lod, it just blurrs the image?:
If you run LOD on an old card like 8800gts 512.
A run without lod would look like this:
Nature FPS: 586. (normal)
Nature FPS: 698. ( WITH LOD )
HUGE JUMPS, that means a 2240 jump in your main score.......
What LOD's for which tests?:
Well, you run what works best for your CARD.
but here are basic lods which i have tested.
For newer cards. (260's, 280's, 285's ,295's etc.)
ORDER + LOD:
1st Lobby HIGH (4.9)
2nd Car HIGH (5)
3rd Dragothic HIGH (5.1)
4th Lobby LOW (4.9)
5th Dragothic LOW (5)
6th Car LOW (5) (many times,till you get a strange bump in FPS/score, like 300 points)
7th NATURE (4.9)
and for older cards:
ORDER + LOD:
1st Car HIGH (4.4)
2nd Lobby HIGH (5.1)
3rd Dragothic HIGH (5)
4th Lobby LOW (3.4)
5th Dragothic LOW (2.9)
6th Car LOW (3.1) (many times,till you get a strange bump in FPS/score, like 200- 400 points)
7th NATURE (5.1)
Now on to.
THE D3D OVERRIDER, sounds like an EPIC MOVIE right!!. also one of the BIGGEST FREAKING THINGs that makes your FPS IN NATURE EXPLODE, epic indeed. MOSTLY effective on Older cards below driver range 180.xx. (less effective but STILL works on the 280's and above).
You change it by going NOT INTO RIVE, its an EXTRA APP AT YOUR RIVA FOLDER
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7145/6d3d.jpg
then
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6157/7d3d.jpg
then
Disable vsync, make sure GLOBAL is selected and HIGH priority for the APPS.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8237/8d3d.jpg
Then you run 3dmark!
you do this BEFORE you run anything. before you even open 2001 if you want.
So remember:
BOOT -
MAKE MEMORY TIGHT.
ENABLE D3D.
CLOCK CARD SET LOD FOR 1ST TEST.
OPEN 2001.
RUN 1ST TEST
OPEN RIVA CHANGE LOD
RUN 2ND TEST AND REPEAT!
Have fun guys!
nvidia rules ;p
ask questions and i will update the list.
In this thread we dicsuss / ask/ and play some 3dmark2001.
It's worse than i feared on this forum and I have seen some 2001 runs in vista. So let me put on my cryo suite and set my teaching mode to MAXIMUM BASICS.
Let me start of with what I can teach you.
!Summary!
•!!USE THE D3D OVERRIDER IN RIVATUNER for NVIDIA CARDS!! *a show how below*
•DO NOT RUN IN DIAGNOSTICS MODE
•MEMORY TIMINGS AND PL TIGHT
•High as possibly SAFE PCI-E FREQ (110 - 115 is safe)
•Nvidia controll panel, set gpu 3D to "Performance", NOT HIGH PERFORMANCE.
•Fresh install of !XP! NO OTHER OS. you will loose about 2000 points at LEAST if not in xp.
•USE Socket 775 CPU. i7 is Generally very bad for 2001, your nature score gets a serious cap, you will never reach 1200 or 1400.
•Nvidia cards normally RULE this benchmark unless you can somehow get your 4870's in crossfire to 1200 core each. (4890's not as strong due to new drivers)
•!!LEVEL OF DETAIL!!! *Described below*
----------------TESTS - System stabilty factors. (What the tests focus on) ---
LobbyH - MEMORY CPU GPU : HEAVY
CarH - CPU GPU : MILD
DragothicH - MEMORY GPU-MEM : MILD
LobbyL - MEMORY CPU : HEAVY
DragothicL - MEMORY CPU: MILD
CarL - CPU : CHILLED
Nature - GPU : HEAVY | MEGA CHILLED cpu
Now, very important. Running the tests in a specific order.
The most common order to run your tests in, is like this below.
1st CarH
2nd LobbyH
3rd DragothicH
4th LobbyL
5th DragothicL
6th CarL
7th Nature
Why run it in a specific order?:
Because you could get an increase in framerate when a certain test is run closer to the Boot. (closer to when your pc was put on).
Like: this can happen.
if run in the normal order:
car low : 600 fps
car high: 400 fps
Lobby low: 1000 fps
Lobby high: 500 fps
this could happen when run in the order above
Car high: 420 fps
Lobby high: 510 fps
lobby low : 1000 fps
car low: 600 fps
The LOW'S KEEP THEIR FPS. but the HIGH'S suffer when not run EARLY. so you GAIN score.
How do i run it in order?:
Select "CHANGE" like shown.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4646/32147792.jpg
Then in the second window click "CLEAR" like shown. THEN select ONE test. For instance CAR HIGH. then click OK and then RUN THE BENCHMARK.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/466/58075541.jpg
only one test will be ran. THEN REPEAT the process, click CHANGE, deselect car HIGH and select the SECOND test you have to run in the order, which is LOBBY HIGH, then click OK with only the ONE test (lobby high) selected and RUN THE BENCHMARK. you repeat this process untill you get a SCORE AFTER CAR LOW the 6TH TEST IN THE SEQUENCE. THEN run nature and you will get your FINAL SCORE.
What is the whole CAR LOW bussiness?
Car low is a buggy test. After you get to car low (the 6th test you have to run in the order) you will run it and get for instance 800 fps. and a total score of 64 000. Now, click BENCHMARK AGAIN, without changing anything, so what your doing is just RUNNING CAR LOW again. this time your score might be 63 800, THEN RUN IT AGIAN, and maybe get 63 890, it will jump around allot, but keep RUNNING IT (EVEN UP TO 10 OR 15 TIMES, until you get a strange JUMP in score or Frames.) like instead of 64 000 , you now score 64 200, or 64400 even. (a 20 or more fps boost, from like 700 to 722 OR EVEN MORE).
THEN you run nature and get your final good score!
Now that you have RUN ORDER nailed down, we get on to running each test with a specific LOD. short for, LEVEL OF DETAIL.
This is how you change your level of detail.
Open Rivatuner.
Then follow the image:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/715/3lod.jpg
Now on your screen you will have this tab.
ONLY YOURS WILL SHOW a MAXIMUM OF LOD 3, AND NOT 15 LIKE MINE.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8732/4lod.jpg
You will need up to 5 so how you can change your max of 3, you do this.
Go to tab "power user" , ignore the warning, go to nvidia global and change the lod MAX to 15. click apply.
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7369/5lod.jpg
Now go back to your LOD setting's screen. (The pic with the LOD slider that is now 15 at max)
You still run in the order i told you. BUT before you run it, you change the LOD in rivatuner.
So what you do is.
1. Open riva - change lod, clock your card.
2. Run test 1 (CAr high) on the specfic LOD it likes (lod's for tests explained below)
3. After test 1 is run, open riva and change the lod to what the 2nd test (lobby high) likes.
Then continue this till you reach the end of your 3dmark 2001 run. (you dont have to change the lod for car low each time you run it, LOD sticks like your graphics clocks)
The most important test which uses LOD is NATURE. make sure you know the correct LOD for your card and NATURE.
MOSTLY, for NVIDIA based graphics cards, the best LOD for nature is 4.9 , 5 , or 5.1.
Why change the lod, it just blurrs the image?:
If you run LOD on an old card like 8800gts 512.
A run without lod would look like this:
Nature FPS: 586. (normal)
Nature FPS: 698. ( WITH LOD )
HUGE JUMPS, that means a 2240 jump in your main score.......
What LOD's for which tests?:
Well, you run what works best for your CARD.
but here are basic lods which i have tested.
For newer cards. (260's, 280's, 285's ,295's etc.)
ORDER + LOD:
1st Lobby HIGH (4.9)
2nd Car HIGH (5)
3rd Dragothic HIGH (5.1)
4th Lobby LOW (4.9)
5th Dragothic LOW (5)
6th Car LOW (5) (many times,till you get a strange bump in FPS/score, like 300 points)
7th NATURE (4.9)
and for older cards:
ORDER + LOD:
1st Car HIGH (4.4)
2nd Lobby HIGH (5.1)
3rd Dragothic HIGH (5)
4th Lobby LOW (3.4)
5th Dragothic LOW (2.9)
6th Car LOW (3.1) (many times,till you get a strange bump in FPS/score, like 200- 400 points)
7th NATURE (5.1)
Now on to.
THE D3D OVERRIDER, sounds like an EPIC MOVIE right!!. also one of the BIGGEST FREAKING THINGs that makes your FPS IN NATURE EXPLODE, epic indeed. MOSTLY effective on Older cards below driver range 180.xx. (less effective but STILL works on the 280's and above).
You change it by going NOT INTO RIVE, its an EXTRA APP AT YOUR RIVA FOLDER
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7145/6d3d.jpg
then
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6157/7d3d.jpg
then
Disable vsync, make sure GLOBAL is selected and HIGH priority for the APPS.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8237/8d3d.jpg
Then you run 3dmark!
you do this BEFORE you run anything. before you even open 2001 if you want.
So remember:
BOOT -
MAKE MEMORY TIGHT.
ENABLE D3D.
CLOCK CARD SET LOD FOR 1ST TEST.
OPEN 2001.
RUN 1ST TEST
OPEN RIVA CHANGE LOD
RUN 2ND TEST AND REPEAT!
Have fun guys!
nvidia rules ;p
ask questions and i will update the list.