Under the Ice for Philly Cheese

[runmc]

New build for Philly Cheese - Lots of pics. All new parts.

Let's start off with Big 3/4 hp condenser

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1019.jpg

3/4 hp Danfoss Compressor

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1027.jpg

Evaporator brazed up

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1024.jpg

Flex line brazed to evap

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1032.jpg

Cap tube coming up

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1036.jpg

Water bath to check for leaks

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1037.jpg

Evap is pressured at 250psi to check for leaks while bathing

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1039.jpg

I like to wrap the cap tube around flexline for added subcooling, then add rubber tape to secure cap tube to flex.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1040.jpg

Big fat insulation

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1042.jpg

My work bench

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1044.jpg

I add a piece of copper around the joint where the flexline and copper meet. This is a spot where leaks can possible develop over time.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1045.jpg

Closer look at splint

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1046.jpg

Unit is all brazed up now and pressure testing. I have more pictures but I need a break from uploading for lunch. :blink:

[Mr.Scott]

Love pics like this. Thanks. :)

[Witchdoctor]

Sick looking build. Awesome work runmc .......... :thumbsup:

Philly will be chilly ....... :)

[ThreeDhero]

Sweet cant wait to see it in action Philly

[Splave]

looks nice! mine is still pumping away at -45c on haswell :D :D couldnt be happier

[Kal-EL]

PhillyPHreeze!

Nice :) May it serve u well my friend.

[GFDuke]

Very nice. Class A work as usual. What temps are you shooting for?

[runmc]

Very nice. Class A work as usual. What temps are you shooting for?

I shoot for -35 C at 300 watt load, evaporator temperature.

I have a lot more pictures to come. Unit is vacuuming now. I let it vacuum overnight
and then do a triple evac tomorrow and then charge it up with r-507. :thumbsup:

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

WOW!
Blown away!! (RUBS HANDS TOGETHER WITH EVIL GRIN) :Hi:

SWEET MAN!
Call before you ship, as I may need to put it on "WILL CALL" if I'm out of town.

[punx223]

nice work as always Ron!

Cant wait to get another unit from you!

[runmc]

Thanks for the compliments guys. It's all about taking your time and having the right tools mostly. And a little experience. ;) I like to post these detailed builds to give other people ideas on how it's done and also give the new owner the opportunity to see their new cooler being built. I learned a lot from looking at other peoples builds.
Here's a few more shots -

After I bolt the compressor on the deck, I like to run my discharge and liquid line. The discharge is the 1/4 tube going from the compressor to the condenser. The liquid line is the 1/4 tube going from the condenser to the filter/drier which in turn feeds the cap tube which runs to the evaporator.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1028.jpg



http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1030.jpg


Here they are brazed up.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1031.jpg

Suction line is the flex line that goes from the evaporator back to compressor.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1047.jpg

Everything is brazed up and I have it under pressure to see if there are any leaks. You use nitrogen to pressure test and purge with. Next I'll work on wiring.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1048.jpg

250 psi pressure test

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1049.jpg

Wiring goody box

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1050.jpg

Wiring and switch done but I closed the cover. I'll open it up and get a picture of the wiring tomorrow.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1051.jpg

I paint the copper to help keep it from oxiding and getting green and nasty, plus it looks a lot better.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1053.jpg

:ohcrap: More pictures tomorrow. :)

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

I shoot for -35 C at 300 watt load, evaporator temperature.

I have a lot more pictures to come. Unit is vacuuming now. I let it vacuum overnight
and then do a triple evac tomorrow and then charge it up with r-507. :thumbsup:


Very Nice man!
I was expecting to wait, was getting bummed out. Great work! :good: Seeing as this is my first one, are there do's and don'ts? Like I assume its not good to run everyday, how will it handle a 6/12 core 2011? Great build log! Very Happy!!

[Witchdoctor]

you'll love it, easy smeasy sub ambient. :thumbsup:

I use mine a lot as I can't afford LN2 very offend

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

you'll love it, easy smeasy sub ambient. :thumbsup:

I use mine a lot as I can't afford LN2 very offend


Very Cool!!!
I got's to make room now.................:good:

[runmc]

Very Nice man!
I was expecting to wait, was getting bummed out. Great work! :good: Seeing as this is my first one, are there do's and don'ts? Like I assume its not good to run everyday, how will it handle a 6/12 core 2011? Great build log! Very Happy!!


Sure you can use it everyday. :good: I personally wouldn't go 24/7 with anything freezing cold. No dos and don'ts about the phase unit. It's all about prepping your socket and motherboard. I believe Bill (Buckeye) has a great guide in this phase section. Prepping for phase is not as severe as prepping for LN2. Someone here at your forums can walk you through it. Six cores are pretty hot as I recall. Give it a shot and see what happens. The unit is built for 300 Watt. Not sure what the 6 cores crank out.

After an overnight vacuum and a triple evac I put the r-507 charge to it this morning. No load testing and tweaking of charge yet. Maybe later today. It does get cold though. Seems like a great cooler.

We got some smoke coming off the evap if you look closely

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1054.jpg

Strong charge

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1058.jpg

I prefer to strap the copper lines down to prevent damage during shipping and just plain use.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1060.jpg

I still have some more insulation to do then some mesh and mounting. This will be day three since start. Not sure exactly how many hours I have in it. I'll have to do a punch clock on my next unit. More pics later. :good:

[kikicoco1334]

wow that is a really cool build!

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Great work man!
Yeah I can prep a socket, no worries there. NO TIME CLOCK! :ohcrap: J/K!

[Witchdoctor]

Man, you do such nice work ....... :)

3930K = 130W TDP

you'll be chillin philly :thumbsup:

just do a standard sub zero set up,


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[runmc]

hehehe - I knew somebody was watching your back.
Great insulation job Witchdoctor ! :good:

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Yeah my last insulation, I for got to use masking tape around the CPU, I took the hold down off the 2011 and clay ozzied under the CPU UGH!

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

:jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy:

Is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet:blush:

[runmc]

:jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy::jiggy:

Is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet, is it done yet:blush:

Yep - it's done. Ships Monday. :good: Picture 1 - Charged at 302 watt on Kil-o-watt thingy @ -36C

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

AWESOME!
Let me know man.........................

[Witchdoctor]

Diggin the crazy mess ......... :thumbsup:

Ron, do they make retainers for GPU's ?

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Diggin the crazy mess ......... :thumbsup:

Ron, do they make retainers for GPU's ?


I was wondering that myself, it would have to be smaller wouldn't it?

@Ron, check your email man!!!

[runmc]

Ready to go on this end.

http://www.under-the-ice.com/SingleStageCooler/OverclockaholicsPhil/IMG_1074.jpg

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Very cool man!
Thank you for your patients with me, I was thinking of one with two heads that are smaller for GPU'S have you done anything like that before?

THANK YOU!

[runmc]

Very cool man!
Thank you for your patients with me, I was thinking of one with two heads that are smaller for GPU'S have you done anything like that before?

THANK YOU!

Never could keep two heads balanced. One would be warmer than the other.

[Kal-EL]

Addicted...

[Neuromancer]

Instead of a dual head evap, use phase change as a liquid chiller. (Evap being a another rad immersed in a liquid.

Look up water cooler chiller for more deets.




correct me if I am wrong, but 300W is pretty easy to hit on a 2011. You will have to keep a good eye on your temps as you clock up, as once you hit near that load... temps will increase sharply.

Very nice work ron, super clean :)


How much one of these run? I might have to invest in one come summer. Got a 30' long shed I can use with its own electric panel :)

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

@around before shipping

[Neuromancer]

Nice.

If I keep getting 40 hours a week, I think I will be ordering one as well :)

[runmc]

Nice.

If I keep getting 40 hours a week, I think I will be ordering one as well :)

Just let me know when and I'll put your name on one. :good:

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Rubs hands together defiantly :morpheus:

[GFDuke]

You'll love it. SS is fun. It's not LN2 but it's a one price performer. Plug and Play. Once you use your ln2 it's gone. Then ya got to get more.

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Guess who showed up at my door, just now? The wet box scares me but it has been raining all day here today. I just hope its not bad.............................

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

All right, I got four good drinks in me,(its Thursday!:thumbsup:) looks to be intact, just wanted to post these:keeporder:

I'm not touching it till tomorrow as alcohol don't mix with Voltage :Hi:

[runmc]

I hope that's water and not oil. Does the box look smashed anywhere? The way it's wet on one side makes me think it could have been laying on it's side. When you first start it up, let it run a minutes and then turn it off and let it sit for ten minutes. Do that a couple more times. That way the oil can move back into the compressor.
If there is oil inside the box, something is broken. Probably not though.
I'm glad you were there to sign for it.

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

No,
Its all intact. No wetness inside, unless its dripped straight out and I can't see it (inside the box is dry) its not crushed anywhere. I'll fire it up tomorrow, follow yer instructions..........
Thanks Again Ron!!!!

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Hey Ron
I must be doing something wrong as at first it shot down to -55 degrees, then ever since it has slowly risen to hover around+ 20-30 degrees Celsius?
I have a window open on the condenser temps outside at 5 Celsius, at first it looked and worked great.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, is it ok to seat the unit next to my computer set up? ?Should the motor be higher than or below my setup? As the neck is long, and im not sure what to do with the extra(I assume keep it standing up)?

I shut it off for a while, see if it helps .............Need advice here really. Thanks!

[Witchdoctor]

What are you using to measure temps

Pics pics Pics

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Alright unit on the floor Temps at -40s seems to be holding................

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

What are you using to measure temps

Pics pics Pics
EXTECH Digital Thermometer

[Witchdoctor]

Make sure the batteries are up to par, mine goes all over the place when batteries are low

Sure nothing is loading the CPU ?

Nice set up bro ..... :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

man that's so killer!

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

temps are good now need to make it stable......................way to much work here!

[Witchdoctor]

once you get it dialed in you will be having a blast

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

steady at -45 Happy! :cool3:

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Hey look I found the air plane! :laughing:

[Kal-EL]

ROFL, nice setup PHilzy.

[OC Maximus]

So it's been a year. How's the unit running?

[MaadDaawg]

Ron at Under the Ice makes (or made, I think he retired?) the cleanest SS units - I have one and LOVE it

[OC Maximus]

Spoke to Ron a few weeks ago. He is still making them. I'm either going to pick-up Dom's old unit or have Ron build me one.

[Witchdoctor]

Agree, Ron makes a solid unit

Shipping to Hawaii is the challenge

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:ohcrap:

[Kal-EL]

horrible drivers!!!

[Kal-EL]

My cascade cost $868.96 back then to SHIP.

[OC Maximus]

FEK!

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

So it's been a year. How's the unit running?


Works Great, just no time lately. Not the kinda thing you wanna run daily, though you can.............

Just wanted to add, Ron's work is top notch! The unit holds fast at a steady -45 that's with a 3930K, my issue was I was trying to run it while the unit was even on top of the table. Unit need to be lower then where the head is bolted, I assume to make the separation up the neck. After a year I'm Very pleased with my price and the value for my money!!!

Ron!:thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

Works Great, just no time lately. Not the kinda thing you wanna run daily, though you can.............

Just wanted to add, Ron's work is top notch! The unit holds fast at a steady -45 that's with a 3930K, my issue was I was trying to run it while the unit was even on top of the table. Unit need to be lower then where the head is bolted, I assume to make the separation up the neck. After a year I'm Very pleased with my price and the value for my money!!!

Ron!:thumbsup:

Wow, u have no idea how helpful that random comment is to me. You see....due to the short length of my cascade evap line, I have been using the cascade almost parallel but predominantly lower than the evap line since the git go. I always wondered why I couldnt get the amazing -116c or so temps the cascade has performed at and now the light of knowledge has shined upon me!!!!

I must rip the top deck off the cascade cart and reconfig to allow a tad bit lower mounting of motherboard. Won't be an easy fix as extending the evap line but its hopeful :)

Thanks bromango, much appreciated share there. :)

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

I don't think it has to be a big separation, but I assume the higher the board is over the pump causes more separation(better performance). Also if you can keep the pump RAD cool as more coolness equals better pump performance.........