A vexing problem

[MaadDaawg]

as you may or may not have read, I recently reconfigured my gamer. Everything was wonderful until a couple days ago (about the same day I put a new SSD in but I believe that is coincendence).

Whenever it starts now, whether at stock clocks or OCd, it false starts twice (dying at error code FF), then starts the third attempt at the correct settings ??

It was running consistently in the 30s at idle and in the 60s while gaming, with both cards staying around 60C max under load.

Then, all of a sudden, (about the time I started playing Crysis 3) I started getting strange system deaths, where the screen just went black and the system rebooted. Found out at least one of these was a CPU overtemp problem, so I did some temp testing and found my temps were running 20 to 30C hotter, with the main increase in heat seaming coming from the (water cooled) chipset :Dizzy:

Got things under control, and had the CPU maxing out around 70 and the cards around 62 while both Prime AND Furmark were running. Went back to gaming and the system died.

Checked the PSU and found the five volt and 3.3 volt lines were weak, so I did a PSUdectomy. Temps are nice and cool again at idle but I still have the triple start?????

Going to test more tomorrow but wondering if any of you that bothered to read this far had any idea of what the issue might be?

added 15 minutes later

GPU 2 is running almost 20C warmer than GPU1 after 10 minutes of Crysis. both always ran with a couple degrees of each other so I'm thinking maybe AB is effed or something.. then again, gpu could have an issue :eek: wo is me :P

edit 2: 20 minutes later: GPU removed from system, gamed longer but still ended up with the black death. Not the RAM, I've tested that, chipset seems okay tempwise... starting to think CPU?

Raptor back in to see if it's the SSD :p

EDIT 3: Idling now for 5 minutes, CPU cores in the mid 50s :ohshit: GPU 40C - oops right after I typed that it dropped to mid 30s

:wtfsign:

[kikicoco1334]

what in the gods name is going on dude! holy hell!
i'd say redo the oc and see whta's up
then drivers, then the os then the comptuer then a whole new person xD

[MaadDaawg]

what in the gods name is going on dude! holy hell!
i'd say redo the oc and see whta's up
then drivers, then the os then the comptuer then a whole new person xD

yeah, whole new person :rofl:

It's been on idle, no OC... wierd... loop feels cool to the touch.. very strange

[kikicoco1334]

yeah the person who build the rig may be dirty idk :P

not sure man, i'd try pop a new chip in it if you got one just around see what's up.

[Neuromancer]

This the X58 setup?

Since you added SSD check your SB temps. I ran into some issues on my ASUS rampage board when running SSDs.

[Kal-EL]

Let me look into my crystal ball and see your system specs. Ah, I see that the bios is not been cleared and oc settings are jacked. Wait, wait, I see your pump fagging out under warm temps.......no no thats not it. Hmmmmmm, I dunno, got cloudy all of a sudden :P

[Witchdoctor]

Re-set BIOS to optimized defaults

Install fresh minty new OS, not an image

Rule out Hardware per standard proceedure, nothing on the board

If you get the same it is a board or CPU issue ot you

Should get mem eror, install 1 stick of RAM, should get vid error

Install 1 card should boot normally

install the rest of the stix should boot normally, if not it is a stix problem

If so install second card, should boot normally if not a card or vid driver problem



Overclock and have fun.......... :thumbsup:

[MaadDaawg]

Set the BIOS to default values yesterday morning, made no difference. Will run cool under OC for awhile then temps shoot up, will run cool at default values for awhile then temps shoot up.

Ran memory tests, no problems detected. Removed 1 GPU from the loop, ran a little longer before black screened. Error message in event log is generic that says an event occurred to cause a shutdown (71 IIRC)

Yes Rich, it's the X58 system with the RIIIE BE and the 980X. CPU, chipset, and GPUs are water cooled. Small rad at bottom, after second card gets hot but then loop goes to the big Feser on top which stays very cool. Temp of water from Feser to resv cool to touch (tubing that is). Never a problem with GPU2 until late yesterday when it started acting goofy and shooting up in temps.

Started trying to reformat the SSD last night, but on this board to get 6gbs you need to use SATA port controlled by the Marvell controller, and although it recognizes the drive it in, it seems to be resisting letting Windows load to it.

Cannot boot the system with the SSD connected to the 6gbs sata port with a sata III cable. SSD has no problems with a sata II cable connected to it.

A reformat will commence this morning if the rig will run long enough to allow Windows to complete :ohshit:

Kal - thanks bud, I always know I can count on you :taunt:

[Kal-EL]

lol

u sure you not losing flow on your loop?

[kikicoco1334]

I am on the edge of saying if all the testing fails, swap it back to air and diag it one by one

[MaadDaawg]

I though of flow, and removed some coolant from the resv this morning. It appears both pumps are working as flow pattern is the same as it was on startup when there were no temp problems. Having said that, I do think a better resv is in order anyway.

Tu Fu, you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm going to convert all this to air just to troubleshoot :laughing:

Don't have another 1366 chip to test but I do have another wc X58 motherboard I could swap it. Going to have to come apart for sure :ohshit:

[kikicoco1334]

I though of flow, and removed some coolant from the resv this morning. It appears both pumps are working as flow pattern is the same as it was on startup when there were no temp problems. Having said that, I do think a better resv is in order anyway.

Tu Fu, you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm going to convert all this to air just to troubleshoot :laughing:

Don't have another 1366 chip to test but I do have another wc X58 motherboard I could swap it. Going to have to come apart for sure :ohshit:

......
send me the 980x i'll test it for ya :D

[MaadDaawg]

oh yeah, why didn't I think of that :P

All better :thumbsup: It was a fucking embolism moving through the loop. This Koolance resv is cool looking with two pumps and all, but a bitch to bleed, shit, it's been in there hiding for weeks :shock:

Next time I have time going to pull this Koolance resv out and put in something a little more practical

[Witchdoctor]

DD dual bay res FTW .........

I have these Ek's in my build, in hterory they should bleed easily ... I hope

So all this shit over a bubble ........... :laughing:

[MaadDaawg]

DD dual bay res FTW .........

I have these Ek's in my build, in hterory they should bleed easily ... I hope

So all this shit over a bubble ........... :laughing:

actually, a very big bubble I think :ohcrap: The Koolance doesn't bleed off like the old Danger Den dual bays did. Koolance told me some people took days to get their loops clear :thumbdown: Danger Den took what, maybe ten minutes :laughing:

[Witchdoctor]

still have mine FTW :thumbsup:

[GFDuke]

lol

u sure you not losing flow on your loop?

^^^^^

[Kal-EL]

Damn, I'm gonna start selling crystal balls :P

[Splave]

if temps were not that high why would you be getting a black screen? GPU should be able to hit 90c+ and be okay.

[MaadDaawg]

I don't think I was losing flow. When I took some fluid out of the res to make the flow more visible it was torrential as usual. Only lost flow was around the bubble, at least that's my theory :D . If you read my lengthy first post, the problem seemed to be moving.. CPU, chipset, GPU ... Wherever the bubble sat cooling didn't happen.

I had literally turned this thing upside down and sideways while bleeding cause of the big rad on the top. Don't know what broke the bubble loose finally but I had the loop pumping on external power at every angle imaginable yesterday :P

[Kal-EL]

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[MaadDaawg]

:rofl:

[Neuromancer]

Bubblehead is a submariner.. ask OCM :)