[Project] Water Hybrid

[kikicoco1334]

Hardware List Final (http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=88533&postcount=217)


For as long as most of you guys have known me, I have never really had a fully functioning water rig, very recently Mr. OCM was kind enough to help me out with some water gears I should have a full rig up and running very soon.

Waiting on USPS to drop off the package right now

Here is some of my ideas...


Back of my case
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/RealBack.png


Because it is a tiny case both of the rads has to be mounted out side of the case.

As up to now I am taking all suggestions on where should i mount the rads at


I did this picture laying on the ground so kinda look a little funky
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Backsetup.png

As the picture showed above the one of the side will not open so the rads has to be mounted on the open sides.

After looking at Mr.OCM's new post the mesh I have always been a huge fan see though side and was thinking about mesh the opening side and have the rad just hang on by the mesh not 100% how well will that hold up, I'd love to have some feed back on that.

I will be running 2 rads, 1 pump a full rig with 1 CPU, 1 GPU, and Chipsets

[OC Maximus]

w00t!

[kikicoco1334]

dude for real! your post have inspired me very much
so thank you!

[Witchdoctor]

I would mount one on the top and one off the reaer fan if it were me. Connecting a rad and lines to a removable section of the case is a clear mistake as far as I am concerned.

What Size rads are you using? tri on top for GPUs and a dual on the back would be good for CPU.

Is this goig to be a gamer ??? as water pretty much blows for benching other than 1155. Jury is still out for 2011 if water will be as effective on this platform.

I think you will have a lot fun building this .................. :thumbsup:

[HybridChiller]

i whant to see pics of work in progress, no drawings........... :blush:

http://i54.tinypic.com/28luanr.png

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki,

I tried top and bottom, it works but it makes you case longer and taller. make sure you have enuf clearance for it to cool correctly.

I hung mine on the sides which worked out quite well. I used extra tubing outside so each side panel could be removed and swung completely out of the way. you could also use Koolance quick disconnects.

where you gonna fit the pump(s) and resv(s)

Can't wait to see your pics bro :D

Here was the old "BattleStar" build

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/727/4coredualquadcompeion96.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4320/fullyarmoredback1.jpg

[MaadDaawg]

The first attempt with top and back rads

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2116/fullybattlereadytorocka.jpg
By maaddaawg (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/maaddaawg) at 2011-10-24

[kikicoco1334]

I will be having 3 3x120mm rads, there will only be 2 used in this build, it is mainly for movies and some gaming, but more importantly it's going to be used as an office machine so it has to look professional as it can be (all the lights has on/off switch installed :D), that's why i went from my sexy looking Thermaltake Xaser VI to this Antec Sonata case.

I'd say this system is 75% work and school, 25% gaming since I have a 40in TV hooked up to it so there is some kind of movie play at all time. But there are times I can feel the computer just don't have enough power like when i am playing Black Ops and watching a 1080p based movie and it needs to be overclocked from 333FSB to 400/420 to have it run smoothly, but that extra 80 something mhz will heat up the system from already hot enough 60C on load to 80C i haven't had that temp since I dumped my Pentium 4 3.0E

MD tbh that setup of yours got me the idea of doing it side by side

I have OVERCLOCKAHOLICS written on top of the case and OCALLIANCE on the open side that's why i canceled my first idea about doing it on the top but that's no big deal i can always re do it

OH and for Chiller......
My camera is broken cuz i took too many dirty pictures this summer now it's been in repair for 10 weeks now as soon as it comes back I'll be spaming this place with pictures
For now I'll just use the iphone instead

[kikicoco1334]

Picture update

Placing the rad on the upper side of the open side
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/highrad.jpg

Placing the rad on the lower side of the open side
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/lowrad.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/lowrad2.jpg


As I was thinking, here is another idea
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/lowradin.jpg
That way there is no tubing will be showing out side of the computer.

[Witchdoctor]

Putting it on a removable door = FAIL

How will you access tah hardware :blink:

How about a Rad box, bitch for lan parties though ............ :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

I was thinking about making it clip on so that way everything would be easy to be installed and removed

This project is gonna take me a long ass time to do...
lol


That box is a awesome idea but don't I need 2 PSU? one for the computer one for the water rig?
I really just need to keep everything simple and clean but 1x120mm rad WILL not hold all the hardwares i need to cool :S


As up to now i am just waiting on USPS to drop off the package

[Mr.Scott]

1 triple rad on the roof would be fine. Plenty of ways to mount it so you'll see minimal tubing. Don't hang it on anything that opens. It's a disaster in the making.

[kikicoco1334]

gottcha!

now i have been looking at some of the pictures on other sites and seems like there is other ways of doing
i'll get some drilling going soon

[MaadDaawg]

You only need one PSU... of the propper wattage of course :D

[kikicoco1334]

I am going to keep that in mind, i am still searching around see if there is any way i can put it on the case

[Neuromancer]

You can always go wit han old school super server case :)

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6996423&postcount=13

[kikicoco1334]

nice!
i have a Antec AMG1000Plusview looks about the same as the first link in there, but it's only got 2 80mm fans i mean it can always get it moded ;)

[MaadDaawg]

1 triple rad on the roof would be fine. Plenty of ways to mount it so you'll see minimal tubing. Don't hang it on anything that opens. It's a disaster in the making.

Unless engineered correctly :D

[kikicoco1334]

seems to me best buy is gonna try fuck me again...
called me they want $130 to fix my camera when they made it worst...

gonna be keep on taking pictures with the phone for a little longer >.<

[OC Maximus]

still waiting....

[kikicoco1334]

Expected Delivery Date: October 20, 2011
Processed at USPS Origin Sort Facility, October 28, 2011, 11:06 am, RICHMOND, CA 94804

Am I missing something?

[MaadDaawg]

still waiting....

Like he said :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

kinda glad i got some time to think it over, and been thinking about just give this setup to my mom cuz she really needs a upgrade from her single core AMD 754 and bust my i7 back out and water that thing and just use that as a 24/7 but then it ain't gonna be a hybrid no more lmao!!!

but for real tho.
if i do the i7 i'll be needing a 1366 water block and a few other stuffs....
but the good part is i'll be in my thermaltake case and that thing is pimpin!!!!!

[DOM]

What type of wb where u going to use ? 775?

[kikicoco1334]

no mate! i was gonna keep on using my P5K-E wifi but my mom needs a upgrade and i need a better bench rig so i monna wait and get a 2011 or a 1155 or something and go from there...

[kikicoco1334]

stay tuned! i monna go rise hell in best buy today hopping to get the camera fixed or something
then i'll come home take some pix

[kikicoco1334]

ALL RIGHT!
A quick update, I have revived all the hardwares, almost ready for some sexy action

Here is a list of what I got atm

CPU D-Tech Fuzion unsure the version with stander nozzle
GPU Swiftech MCW82 with plastic nozzle
Pump Swiftech MCP-655 no nozzle needed
Res Swiftech MCRES-Micro with plastic nozzle
Rad Swiftech MCR-360 with stander nozzle
Chipset Koolance CHC-122 with 1/4'' threaded
Motherboard Koolance MVR-100 with 1/4'' threaded

All nozzle are 1/2''s
Going to stick with Primochill or Tygon for tubings

Setup:
Asus P5K-E WIFI
- (only south bridge going to be air cooled)
EVGA 8800GT 1st Gen (512-P3-N801-AR, gonna save my N802 for benching)
- OC @ 666MHz on the core, 1000MHz on memory
- 8800GT at that clock plays black ops alright a little lag once in a while but I don't really game that much anymore
Core 2 Quad Q9300 M1
- (aiming for 3800/4000MHz+)
2 sets of TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX
- been doing some googling and seems like it's going to be an alright set for 1066 5-5-5-15 or tighter @ 1.95 ~ 2.20v or so we'll find out

[OC Maximus]

still no pictures? :P

[kikicoco1334]

......
went raised hell in bestbuy and now i am just waiting on the fuckers to get me a invoice of the camera then i'll be golden

all i gotta do is try get my hands on a invoice of the camera then i should beable to get a flat swap to a new one

this is the stupidest shit i have ever ran into, so glad i quit that shit hole

charging my iFone right now i'll take some pix in a little

[kikicoco1334]

Overall
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/All.jpg
Disassemble and deep cleaned my water block

My specially made mounting by me lol
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Mounting.jpg


Complete

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Full_2.jpg

[kikicoco1334]

ok this could be the BEST or THE WORST idea i have ever came up with......

so been thinking want a easy way out i'd be more than happy to get my driller out and poke some holes but before that i got some magnet from the HDDs :D and i can just use those magnet to hold it to the case cuz they are EXTREMELY strong and i remember i have alot of them some where in the house what do you guys think?

[OC Maximus]

something about magnets + hhd's don't give me a warm fuzzy

[MaadDaawg]

ummm... I think magnets erase data from the HDDs Bro :thumbdown:

[kikicoco1334]

I have always been told about it but the thing is i have tried to erase my data with the HDD and it never worked :/
I may just be doing it wrong or something

^^^^ I was about 13 so give me a break!

Ever since then i have allways had magnetized stuff stuck on the side of my case @.@
once again I may have just been really lucky but yeah....

Think I still may just put a few holes on my closed side of the case tho just be on the safe side cuz i got too much data if I lose anything I'll prob set something on fire again

I'll post some ideas in a little eating lunch atm

[OC Maximus]

what are you eating

[MaadDaawg]

jeeez, shoulda been done by now :D

[kikicoco1334]

what are you eating
i'll post a pix that burger in a little lol

Rad mount
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Rad.png

I have a strip of white SMD hopping to have the RED water running though the rig

Option 1 for the lights
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/SMDLIGHTOP1.png
Option 2
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/SMDLIGHTOP2.png

[MaadDaawg]

So you're gonna tape the rad to the side ? :eek:
:laughing: Sorry Bro, couldn't stop myself :D

[kikicoco1334]

tape ain't that bad of an idea but naw i monna bolt it on lol

i monna drill a few holes (4) from inside out and bolt it on that way

[OC Maximus]

or you can use magnets :P

[DOM]

Duck tape

[kikicoco1334]

or you can use magnets :P

naw i wanna make this looks as professional as it can be, cuz it's gonna be one of my office machine that's gonna be doing some crazy video encoding with so yeah.....

oh and remote terminal not so much as an RTU but more of a system that manages stuff from the other office so i don't have to drive in every time to fix something or get some files :D

[Neuromancer]

Duck tape

He might not have that brand of Duct tape available in his area :Hi:

[kikicoco1334]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/back2.jpg

here is the more complete idea of the case, pretty much tilted about 20~30 degree up for the better look and also it may get mounted better that way

Blue is out, Red is in could of use some other color but that's the only i picked out at the time that looked alright on the computer.....

FEED BACKS ME NEEDS THEM!

[kikicoco1334]

He might not have that brand of Duct tape available in his area :Hi:
lol

[DOM]

He might not have that brand of Duct tape available in his area :Hi:
http://www.staples.com/Duck-Tape-Brand-Duct-Tape-Purple-Duchess-1.88-x-20-Yards/product_915235?cid=PS:SBD:GS:E:N:PLA:7100000000022 7344:58000000007550106:915235 :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

I AM NOT TAPING MY RAD ON TO MY CASE THE END!

[OC Maximus]

glue?

[kikicoco1334]

omg you guys......
cut that out!

[lesstutrey]

The in and out really don't matter apart from pump/block convenience in mounting (usually see res>pump>rad>block>res). The orientation of them also shouldn't really make a difference. I'd drill outside to in, the inside of the hole will be covered up with a screw/bolt head (they're #6 screws, i think 32 pitch, positive, but they are #6 for sure). And maybe i need to read the thread better but how are the hoses getting in?

Orientation of in and out as well as the angle doesn't matter because the loop will just hit it's t-delta and it won't really matter. The whole rad will be roughly the same temp so just use the in and our that is convenient for your situation. No certain mount orientation will provide you with better results, so if you like the angle thing, go with it.

[OC Maximus]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/back2.jpg

here is the more complete idea of the case, pretty much tilted about 20~30 degree up for the better look and also it may get mounted better that way

Blue is out, Red is in could of use some other color but that's the only i picked out at the time that looked alright on the computer.....

FEED BACKS ME NEEDS THEM!
Where are the fans going to be mounted?

[Neuromancer]

The in and out really don't matter apart from pump/block convenience in mounting (usually see res>pump>rad>block>res).

Normal orientation is res pump block rad not rad -> block.

[MaadDaawg]

resv > pump > block > rad > Resv

at least, that's the way I normally do it ;)

:D

[MaadDaawg]

Why don't you use what I used to mount my outside quads on the Battlestar - cabinet door hinges :D The work great :thumbsup: Or, you could get some small L brakets and paint them black.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/727/4coredualquadcompeion96.jpg



Other than that, have you given any thought to Velcro :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

I am using [Pump]>[Motherboard]>[Chipset]>[CPU]>[Rad #1]>[GPU]>[Rad #2]>[Res]>[Pump]

I am not really good at this so I kinda mark everything very clear just so I don't get them mixed up.
I was actually wondering which side should I install the fan on? as up to now, I have it installed on the hose side but will that be too close to the case and not get enough air flow?

The white holes are where the tubing is gonna go
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/withholes.jpg


TBH MD I was gonna do it just like yours where it's gonna be sticking out like that but because the case is too damn small it's not gonna let me :/

[MaadDaawg]

Dude, you have to have space between a solid wall and the fan intakes, and, I at least always try to keep the heated air blowing away from computer. Bitspower makes some neat radiator mounts that hold the unit about 1inch from the wall of the computer. Koolance makes a really neat rad mount that has flex arms to move in and out, but it's about $45.

Removing the case fan for the water tubing could prove problematic because you case still needs to breath. Think that's why OC asked where you were gonna put the fans.

I'm thinking that case is just a little too small for what you're trying to do Bro.

[kikicoco1334]

I see,
Will it be better if i just put 4 holes there on the bottom?
What i am trying here I think is just build a very hybrid system that's got a little extra power than what it looks

Since this is my FIRST modding I don't want it to be too compacted but at the same time I want where I get alot of practice but i monna take it slow tho, just so I can make sure I do everything right

DAMN I WAS CREATIVE WHEN I WAS LITTLE! now i am old! :D

I monna swing by home depot tomorrow after class and see if i can find anything there

My idea was pretty much build a holder type of thing where i can drop slide any kind of rads from 120mm to 360/480mm based in and lock it in kinda like a HDD trey in your case


TBH MD, your rig is where I got some of my ideas from and OCM is the one give me the motive to actually get my lazy ass up and doing it and for the first time in my life wanting to make it look nice

[OC Maximus]

yeah, now get off your lazy ass and pick up that duck tape at Homedepot :D

[MaadDaawg]

yeah, now get off your lazy ass and pick up that duck tape at Homedepot :D

+1

:laughing:

Seriously again, your drilling into the grill over the pcie slots, which is going to make swapping out any cards very difficult, might even make the whole thing not work.. don't know.

I say go for it and figure it out as you go if need be, that's basically what I did with the Battlestar :D

BTW - you can find the duck tape by all the quaking and honking noise they make on the shelf :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

I HAVE DUCK TAPE IN THE HOUSE!!!!!
so we all good on the duck tape part!

I am just gonna cut some part of the grill out and just enough i can put some protection around the tubing and have it going into the system we should be good
The only part i'll be drilling is the back of the case which i'll have to make sure where do drill n all

i am making some of the best stake out there!!!

I am really just looking for a very clean system with alot of power but don't wanna go the extreme end something 430W PSU can hold up

[MaadDaawg]

ummm.... there is no such thing as duck tape :blush: It's actually ducT tape :Dizzy:

:D

[OC Maximus]

duck tape :taunt:

[kikicoco1334]

hate you people!
duct tape!

way to make fun of the asian don't speak english!

[MaadDaawg]

hate you people!
duct tape!

way to make fun of the asian don't speak english!

Kiki, unless my research is faulty, DOM was the first one to use duck tape (sorry DOM :D )

Only thing I know in an Asian language is (phonetically spelled) "why owe knee"
My only Tagalog is "gusto kong kaenin yon puke mo" and the only Tongan I know is "Dau Fai" and "
Fena Fai"

your English is much better than my Asian :D

[OC Maximus]

way to make fun of the asian don't speak ingrish!
alright, alright, I'll stop ;)

[Neuromancer]

ummm.... there is no such thing as duck tape :blush: It's actually ducT tape :Dizzy:

:D

Duck is a company that makes duct tape. I mentioned that earlier :)

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/public/EoVVF5YpTvqE_vg3nnThND8Qy47qeF76sNFHNyTF-pdllCoj2mhiIds0_sZNODbQGCa8OI3k788blQGyZ-QkH77jhjFmoH9CUsxYPtCQYtIsnzNSr0Cnd91I7fj77OoUWOc2 14s4emIIexEd4wjJDZXBqVPsa36-26Hqyv09rUqpxsDc

[kikicoco1334]

^ see!

[MaadDaawg]

I stand corected ;)

[DOM]

I stand corected ;)

:hug: :laughing:

[MaadDaawg]

No one can interpret my Asian statements above???

[Neuromancer]

Yeah but calling it duck tape is liking calling transparent tape "Scotch" tape because 3M made it and it had that red palin trademark on it.

Or calling all mp3 players "ipods"

I am no grammar nazi, but I do pronounce duct tape, as duct tape there is a T on the end that is pronounced :)

[kikicoco1334]

lol

i just found this link...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?SID=u0t0f0fp62054dd0c0s701&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050012151%2040000573%204801&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&SpeTabStoreType=1&Order=PRICE&PageSize=50

i was wondering if i should just get one of those 200mms and poke a GIANT hole on the side and put that fan on the side or will it cost probs?
or a 170mm and stick it on the back to replace the 120mm (kinda need that 120mm for the rad)

[OC Maximus]

I'll still call it duck tape, quack quack.

[DOM]

I'll still call it duck tape, quack quack.

Me to lol :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

after today my skool work should be slowing down for a few days this weekend i'd try get as much as i can done SH!T! i just remember i haven't ordered my tubings yet FML

but should i still use PT nuke or silver because i kinda have both in my rig

[MaadDaawg]

Nuke, not Silver. Silver can have negative reactions with other metals

[MaadDaawg]

Yeah but calling it duck tape is liking calling transparent tape "Scotch" tape because 3M made it and it had that red palin trademark on it.

Or calling all mp3 players "ipods"

I am no grammar nazi, but I do pronounce duct tape, as duct tape there is a T on the end that is pronounced :)


+1 :D

[Witchdoctor]

I am in the HVAC industry

I am hear to tell you that it is spelled duct tape and to also put to rest the pronunciation ..... and I can spell ........... :laughing:

The industry standard is the T is silent

but not ck

it is pronounced by us proffesionals as

DUK TAPE .............................. :ohcrap:

you heard it here first ........................................ :thumbsup:

It has been sugested to use this product properly it takes a 6 week S.H.I.T. course

It also doubles on Sundays as (200 MPH tape)






SHIT = Super High Intensity Training

[MaadDaawg]

Well, the definitive answer from the professional :)

Now, how about speed tape, the all aluminumnumnum tape :D

[Witchdoctor]

Simply pronounced Silver Tape

:laughing:

[MaadDaawg]

Simply pronounced Silver Tape

:laughing:

I've seen aircraft Mechanics use that stuff to cover small dings and such on commercial aircraft. They always called it speed tape :blink:

[OC Maximus]

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6902/908/1024/duct%20tape.0.jpg

EB Green is what I've used for years.

"EB Green is found throughout the Navy and rumored to originate from the Electric Boat shipyard, hence the name. If you’re a US Submariner (current or former) you probably heard stories about and experienced the unbelievable strength of “EB Green” duct tape. This stuff is not your Home Depot run of the mill duct tape (http://www.cobweb.net/~neeley/duct_tape.htm); I swear when applied properly its just short of epoxy backed Kevlar....."


http://lubbers-line.blogspot.com/2006/03/eb-green-tape-stuff-of-urban-legends.html

Duct Tape :P

Wait, what is this thread about again? :D

[Witchdoctor]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. I am not an Aircraft Mechanic :blink:

OC, if I remember correctly it is about Kiki building a water cooled PC, I have no idea how duct tape or silver tape is being applied to this build. All I can say if tape is involved something has seriousy gone wrong with this build.

I have built probably 25 water cooled systems in my time starting out with home made blocks prior to these designer web sites that simply sell you what you need.
For the life of me I can not remeber using any sort of tape on any of them, zip ties yes but tape ............. ahhhhhh nope no tape I am sure of it ............ :laughing:

I got into this discussion simply to stop my beloved DUK TAPE from being dragged through the mud :ohcrap:

Back pn topic

How about some Pics Kiki ........... :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/9/4/8/8/8/a3171760-197-Thread%20Direction.jpg?d=1270781922

on my way out picking up the camera and some tools be back in a little

[Neuromancer]

I only worked HVAC for a week :)

I will still call it just like hte metal ventalation shafts in your home

duct link (http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=duct&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=opera&hs=1vd&rls=en&channel=suggest&source=hp&q=definition:+duct&pbx=1&oq=definition:+duct&aq=f&aqi=g3g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=11030l14136l0l14308l16l13l0l0l0l0l264l1742l 4.8.1l13l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=588cf0838c88e938&biw=1024&bih=634) :)

Duk sounds familiar though, like there is a brand called that too, although google reveals nothing...

[OC Maximus]

I got my HVAC Universal Certification back in 1997 and lost my little licence card thingy about 5 years ago. :blink:

Haven't done any refer work since 2002.

[MaadDaawg]

I got my HVAC Universal Certification back in 1997 and lost my little licence card thingy about 5 years ago. :blink:

Haven't done any refer work since 2002.

Man, it's been longer than that since I've had any refer :thumbdown: :laughing:

[OC Maximus]

Man, it's been longer than that since I've had any refer :thumbdown: :laughing:
:rofl

[MaadDaawg]

So where can Kiki buy some of the EB Green duct tape to hold his radiators in place ?
:D

Seriously, I'd like to pick some up, just because :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

soo.....
best buy has once again fucked me over
after 7hrs of talking to those little fuckers they are want to wait till tomorrow to call me back on the "'issue" fml

[MaadDaawg]

soo.....
best buy has once again fucked me over
after 7hrs of talking to those little fuckers they are want to wait till tomorrow to call me back on the "'issue" fml

Bummer Bro ... so what is the "issue" again?

[kikicoco1334]

I take a lot of pix and the lens got jammed so they ware going to fix it, but because the other bestbuy lost the invoice and they can't find it anymore so they do not want to help me anymore till i give them a invoice it's stupid even tho i have the warranty invoce
It's just stupid stuff

[MaadDaawg]

Most newspapers or TV stations have a team of people who take on this sort of shit for us little people. They expose the rat bastards in the media and suddenly they're falling all over themselves to apologize and fix your problem. might give that a try.

or SUE THE BASTARDS lol If you have the warranty paperwork, that should be sufficient. try calling the warranty company?

Good luck

[kikicoco1334]

I know they are gonna get me taking care of or they will die trying.
A little buzzy lately, but once my skool work slows down a little i monna go in and rise hell, they made me miss my mom's birthday picture, my best friend's wading picture, my OCA pictures and more importantly my DIRTY pictures!

[kikicoco1334]

Hope no ass hole steals my idea before I actually get to use it :P
Butta.....
I was in the shower, and I was looking around and found something really interesting that I can take advantage of in my rig.
Instead of drilling holes everywhere use the suckers on the towel hanger
Believe or not those little bastards are REALLY strong! I can hold up my computer with two of those things sucked on top of it.
Now I just need to find a way to make it hold the rad and making it look as nice as it can be.

[OC Maximus]

What do "suckers on towel hangers" look like?

[kikicoco1334]

Suction cup!

[OC Maximus]

Suction cup!
"hung:

[kikicoco1334]

WHAT!

WHAT DID I DO?

[OC Maximus]

Might as well hang the radiator off your nipples using them suction cups.

Use nuts and bolts buddy.

[kikicoco1334]

Might as well hang the radiator off your nipples using them suction cups.

Use nuts and bolts buddy.

:flaminmad:

I though I came up with an idea oh well...
Then yeah I should be off school not next week but week after that, and I should other then getting my homework done and some LN2 benches I should beable to get this project half way done if not all the way :thumbsup:

I was also wondering how can I do my side case like yours, but only part of it in see though, I have always been a huge fan of them see thoughs

[MaadDaawg]

or, use your nipples :D Tehn not only could you bench, but you could sell your pics to all the gay mags and have a side income :laughing:


Sidewinder Computers has some "radiator feet" that are pretty cheap, you might want to look into those. Last time I had my gamer on the Banchetto I had one feser quad sitting on the floor using a lamp base as a foot - worked great :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

or, use your nipples :D Tehn not only could you bench, but you could sell your pics to all the gay mags and have a side income :laughing:


Sidewinder Computers has some "radiator feet" that are pretty cheap, you might want to look into those. Last time I had my gamer on the Banchetto I had one feser quad sitting on the floor using a lamp base as a foot - worked great :thumbsup:

What's up with people and my nipples! and NO I am NOT going to sale my pix to gay mags!


But yeah, I monna go to Sidewinder Computers and check it out thanks.
I'll be posting some example pixs i found last night what my rig is mostly gonna be look like. :thumbsup:

[Neuromancer]

Shit I would sell my pics to gay mags, I just doubt they want pictures of my ghetto mods :D

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u153/cyber42punk/Handyman/benchstation4.jpg

[kikicoco1334]

That's the water res i wanted but have no extra cash to get it atm so just gonna use my current Swiftech one for now

[kikicoco1334]

anyone know how to make the water milk white?
cuz i've decided my theam for this rig is gonna be milk and chocolate aka. it's gonna be white and black, out side housing of the rad is gonna be white, the water is gonna be white the lights are gonna be white, everything else is gonna be black

[OC Maximus]

uhh... is this all in your head or did you plan on starting soon? We are already on page 11 :P

[kikicoco1334]

hey now!
i had the ideas i was jumping between blue and red (that's what i have atm), red and black, black and white (like the old camaro), red and white (like a viper srt), or all the above like america :shock:

also i can't seem to figure it out what kind of tubing fits my the best, there is 1/2 ID and 1/2 OD not really sure which one is my, i think i have the 1/2 fittings:Dizzy:



oh and two of the pages are you guys talking about diff between duck and duct tape :P:P:P

[MaadDaawg]

uhh... is this all in your head or did you plan on starting soon? We are already on page 11 :P

I'm starting to think it's mental masturbation :rofl:

For white tubing, ummm ... buy white tubing:taunt: Chocolate is brown, not black hhmm.. what could make it brown ??? :D

Most of the times the ID is what they quote. If they quote two numbers than the ID is first and the OD is second. This however goes out the window if you're buying pressure tubing :P

[kikicoco1334]

I'm starting to think it's mental masturbation :rofl:

For white tubing, ummm ... buy white tubing:taunt: Chocolate is brown, not black hhmm.. what could make it brown ??? :D

Most of the times the ID is what they quote. If they quote two numbers than the ID is first and the OD is second. This however goes out the window if you're buying pressure tubing :P


dark chocolate? yeah!

this is what i got atm

PT_Nuke
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/peptcobi1.html

now just wondering which one of those works

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ty3id1odlatu.html
or
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ty1id5odlatu.html


http://www.xoxide.com/1id5odclvitu.html
or
http://www.xoxide.com/3id1odclvitu.html

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki,

If yu are using 1/2 fittings, you can use

7/16 ID 5/8 OD
7/16 ID 11/16 OD
1/2 ID X 5/8 OD
1/2 ID 3/4 OD

Tygon 3603 is very flexible and long lasting. Won't kink like vynle hose will. 7/16 gives you a real tight fitting on your fittings, but the 3/4 gives you greater preasure handling, which you really don't need. If you're going to use compression fittings, make sure they are for the size tubing you get

[kikicoco1334]

Thank you MD, I now have everything on it's way to me, so we should be good to go ;)

Now just waiting on Thanksgiving break

[kikicoco1334]

Just real quick......
6ft should be enough for my rig right?
I have a tiny system Antec Sonata

Same as this with out the PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024

[MaadDaawg]

Sounds about right, but difficult for me to know not really seeing it live. Thinking I used 10/12ft for my dual loop in a full tower though. This was with a dual loop, dual resv/pump in a dual bay slot so the distances were less than if I had used a pump mounted at the bottom of the case.

don't forget to take into account the exterior mounted rads - leave enough extra tubing to move them if you need to.

[kikicoco1334]

Yep I forgot taking count of the tubing between CPU and rad then to GPU.
I emailed the guy last night and doubled my original size of the order.
On the order said 2~3days and it's coming from Indianan, REALLY hopping it's gonna be like 1 day or so :rofl
But think again, it NEEDS to be 3 days, recently I found out i have absolutely no self control and I have two project due at the end of this week

I got my rig a part, and seems like the light strip is really a lot longer then I remembered so gonna change that up a little and also the old way i had the lights in it didn't really give the maximum lighting in the rig, cuz some of them had to over lap to fit.

My tablet is out of batt atm, but I'll post the new idea i got on the mounting for the rig is a little smarter and more removable

[kikicoco1334]

here y'all go!

pretty much install the mount first then install it on the case

[MaadDaawg]

WOW... that's a big rad man :D

Things you don't think will need changing always require some tweak or another.

If I order from him via UPS Ground on Monday, I get in on Tuesday cause I'm in Chicago. If I order 3 day shipping a Monday order will get here on weds/thurs - the bastards sit on it so you don't figure out the cheaper shipping :Dizzy:

[kikicoco1334]

The guy was telling me he is mailing it out today, let me get this test done i'll post what ever i am about to say in about 1hr or so

[MaadDaawg]

oh shit :shock:

we gotta wait a fucking hour to hear what you're gonna say :Dizzy:

:ohcrap:

:D

[kikicoco1334]

god damn it...
i just erased all the shit i typed....


well i was gonna say, my rad isn't that much bigger than yours dude, i have the std mcr-320 with 3 120mm fan on it, but more or less i am just glad i am about to be done with this rig so i can go back having fun.

oh and the new idea of my is gonna be better for the mounting as well, better air flow and all that good stuff

everything should be here this friday tho, but i prob ain't gonna beable to get to it till after 1630 cuz i don't get out of class till 1150, 1200 i have oil change (no idea how the hell am i gonna beable to make it up there....) then finally getting my fucking camera, i made an appointment with the general manager over there and he is gonna make sure i walk out with something.

[Neuromancer]

He was joking about the scale of your Rad to case in your freehand sketch. Your case would have to be only 9-10" long if a 3 fan rad overhangs it that much in the front and back :)

[MaadDaawg]

He was joking about the scale of your Rad to case in your freehand sketch. Your case would have to be only 9-10" long if a 3 fan rad overhangs it that much in the front and back :)

:thumbsup:

:D

[Neuromancer]

:thumbsup:

:D

I got your thinking homey :ohcrap:

[MaadDaawg]

I got your thinking homey :ohcrap:

:laughing: right on the money Bro :laughing: :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

yep i am doing my side ways.
i just got some numbers, the case is 420mm long and height is 430mm, the rad height is 125mm and both rad is gonna be somewhere around 90~100mm apart, and they are 400mm long

there is gonna have somewhere between 25~35mm sticking out for the tubes to come out.

this is my first time modding ANYTHING for it's look, so kinda have alotta retarded questions...

in the red square is where i monna be mostly be working with
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/drl.jpg

here is a huge gap between the place where the motherboard install bay and the back of the case how do i get around that?

or should i just drill it though, cuz i actually been getting sooo many (i am not goona say good ideas but) ideas that may just work great, instead of having to screw it from outside in, i can just stick a longer bolt and just have it there at all times, so when i wanna do anything with the rad i don't have to remove the motherboard everytime i can just unbolt it and be done with it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/gap.jpg

[DOM]

Still not finished :P

[kikicoco1334]

Don't make me go down there and kick your ass! :P :P :P

Should be done as soon as the tubes gets here tho.

I already have the rig completely a part now and all the waterblocks are installed along with the heatsinks

[MaadDaawg]

If I follow you right, drilling holes under the motherboard to hold the rad in place may make it easier. Doesn't that panel come off the case at all?

Thought occurred to me, why not just relocate your PSU to the top of the case and mount the rads in that space? Might need a few extensions, but :Dizzy:

[kikicoco1334]

If I follow you right, drilling holes under the motherboard to hold the rad in place may make it easier. Doesn't that panel come off the case at all?

Thought occurred to me, why not just relocate your PSU to the top of the case and mount the rads in that space? Might need a few extensions, but :Dizzy:

No, the Sontana's back don't come off and because the case is too damn small on top of all the stupid stuff I am putting in it, it's not going to have enough room for the rad to be installed inside or moving the PSU around, there is only one place for everything in that case :thumbdown:



The tubes should be here tomorrow, by the time I get home till the time I HAVE to go to bed i have about 6hrs (that'll be local time 2300hr got traffic school Sat. 0800hr FML) should have enough time to get most of it done

Gonna do some drilling when I get home in a little, it's freezing cold in Brentwood/Nashville area, and try my best to get the light in place.

[MaadDaawg]

You B da man Kiki :thumbsup:

37 degrees in Chicago today :thumbdown:

[kikicoco1334]

We are 48F atm, but the wind + being the south seems a whole lot colder

just made my self a 27oz steak soooo good!!!
i'll keep you guys posted for the progress

[MaadDaawg]

That a fish tank in the background?

(in your avatar)

[kikicoco1334]

I have no idea TBH that was my buddy's apartment, and we call him the little redneck :D

Here is some update after drilling some holes (yes MD free your mind think who ever the way you wanna :P)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/photo-1.jpg

Pretty much everything went REALLY well, before I started i accidentally scratched the fuck out of the case you can see right on top of my name there is some white lines.

This is my first time so give me some feed backs (first time drilling with a drilling tool)

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki, my mind is always free Bro... but nothing special comes to mind here :Dizzy:

Just a quick question though? If these are the first holes you ever drilled with a drilling tool, what tool did you use in the past to drill holes ? :D

[kikicoco1334]

nvm....
back to the water rig......

This is my first "big" mod

[DOM]

Is it me or the holes look off XD

I wish I had time to make a bulid :P

[MaadDaawg]

Kick ass Kiki :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

Thanks MD,

Here is a newer pix of what the lights' gonna be look like
Letting it sit overnight so it'll hold in a little better

and just made another steak for myself :) got 5lb (6hrs ago), 2/3 of it it's gone

there will be no more update from me anymore, NEED to get my ass on the homework......
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/lights.jpg

[OC Maximus]

Awesome to see progress!

Nice work Tu ;)

[kikicoco1334]

Thanks OCM :)


Is it me or the holes look off XD

I wish I had time to make a bulid :P


It's really the way i took the pix, iFone sux!
I'm going to bestbuy picking up my camera tomorrow (at least that's what they told me)

but yeah dude you'll have time, I mean you got 3 kids and work it's kinda hard, it took me all this time to make some time to get this project started and making progress. :thumbsup:

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki, what you going to uses as spacers to keep the fans off the outside of the case?

Looking good Bro :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

Look how happy I am!

Got a nice camera (it was on sale for $80 less than the marked price)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000016.jpg

[Mr.Scott]

Get a haircut kid. :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

hahahaha, I am normally better hair then this but I was running late this morning :D

[DOM]

Get a haircut kid. :laughing:

I told her the same thing she don't lesson :rofl



So tofu what are u using between the raid and the case ?

[kikicoco1334]

2.5'' bolts

[DOM]

Take a pic of how it looks... With out the hairy dude lol

[kikicoco1334]

Here you go!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Rad_install_1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Rad_install_2.jpg

Now for the last 2 hrs, I CAN NOT figure out why my pump is not pumping when it's in a closed system, like all the air isn't moving am I missing something?
here is a few pictures of the rig..
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000031.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000032.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000033.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000034.jpg

[Mr.Scott]

It's because you have more air than water in your loop. You need to keep tipping the case around and adding more water as the air is expelled. Those rads are still empty.

[MaadDaawg]

yeah, like tip it up 45 degrees or so, but with that amall resv it's gonna take you awhile.

Might consider going pump to CPU and then to so you don't have such a long unbroken water pathway. Might also help if you open the system before CAREFULLY filling the loop initially. Close loop means higher pressure.

shit.. just lost a bunch of wisdom I had written down only for it to disapear into the etheric :eek:
If that is the little swiffty Resv, it looks like it should slip out of the bay. If so, take it out and open one of the unused ports that is blocked off as an air escape valve. Open it slightly so only a little air will get out. Obviously this should not be on on the bottom :eek: Then Open another port completely and use that pour your coolant into the system. Fill as much water as you can that way then turn on the pump. Once the pump runs dry of coolant, turn it off. Repeat A LOT until the look is practially full. don't forget to tighten all losed caps on the two ports on the Swifty. Probably can use those to bleed the loop too :)


You also might want to consider mounting a fill port on the top of the rig and running it to a "t" connector so you cna pour easier. If you're using a little swifty resv it's gonna be a bitch filling that loop :eek:

Looking real nice though dude :)

[MaadDaawg]

another 2 cents :D

Looks like your going pump rad / gpu / rad / cpu/ resv / pump.

You should really hit the CPU before you hit the GPU. Why not

pump / cpu / rad / rad / GPU / resv / pump

or

pump / RAD / CPU / GPU / RAD / RAD / resv / pump

Either one would shorten the amout of tubing which would increase the flow. That's long single loop. You way should work too, just more burden on the pump.

looks bad ass the way it is though :D

[MaadDaawg]

Get a haircut kid. :laughing:

Why, it's WAY shorter than mine :eek: :D

[MaadDaawg]

It's because you have more air than water in your loop. You need to keep tipping the case around and adding more water as the air is expelled. Those rads are still empty.

+1

Just noticed you had some coolant in two of the outside hoses which means it had to have put at least some water throug the rads. Top rad will be the bitch cause it's higher than you resv.

[Mr.Scott]

Why, it's WAY shorter than mine :eek: :D
Mine too.............but todays youth need more "do as I say, not as I do" instituted into them......................you know, the way our parents did with a belt.

[MaadDaawg]

Mine too.............but todays youth need more "do as I say, not as I do" instituted into them......................you know, the way our parents did with a belt.

+1

:D


nusub
Just realized, if you open a port on the resv to fill coolant, you don't need to crack one to drain air :blush: Might be your best bet for bleeding though

[kikicoco1334]

Thanks alot guys, I monna be working on this today all day, just got out of traffic school, kinda sucked cuz I really didn't learn anything (all my friends and family already went there and told me about it)

I'll keep you guys posted I already have my camera back as you all can tell.

[Neuromancer]

Not to sound liek a picker of nits, but judging by your phots.. you might want to try plugging it in!!!

LOL

jk...

Yeah totally have to fill, roll case around, fill roll case around...


If you can pull the res out of the back of the bay area (or the front)... do so, lay the case on the rads (carefully) then you can leave teh res open why you fill and bleed.

I like using extra tubing too, prevents kinking and also allows you to move stuff around when necessary.

I thought my hair was long, it actually touches my ears now!

[MaadDaawg]

I have a ponytail :P :D :laughing:

[kikicoco1334]

I AM ABOUT TO SIT THIS SHIT ON FUCKING FIRE RIGHT NOW

For the last 3 hrs, I been trying to find out why in the fuck is this pos motherboard don't wanna boot when it's in a case. when I take it out it works fine, as soon as i put it in the case NOT SHIT WORKS

It shows it's got power, and will try to start for a half sec then nothing

At first i though there was a short somewhere and i pretty much taped a layer of shit on the bottom of the board and this motherfucker still ain't booting i am about to just take it out side have a meeting with me and my gun

[kikicoco1334]

Now this board WILL NOT BOOT at all if there is a cpu in there

[OC Maximus]

Try booting without a CPU then :P

[kikicoco1334]

dude not a single fuck is working on this board, i already called a buddy he may drop off a 780i evga off to me tonight

[Mr.Scott]

Watch your god dam language. :laughing:
It's shorting some where. You just have to find it.

[kikicoco1334]

Sry man just kinda pissed, for the time it takes for me to find out where the short is on in the socket, I gonna have to use that 780i for now

[kikicoco1334]

I think this is God's way of saying "Fuck you too(u) you ain't gonna ever use the water cooler EVER!" the 780i is keep on having memory issues even if I change out different rams FML!

[Neuromancer]

Make sure you did not overtighten the block? LGA is not a big fan of being crushed.

[kikicoco1334]

Yeah, I monna look at that when i get up in the morning.....

the 780i is just will not boot pass C1 which is a memory issue

[MaadDaawg]

couple things.

several decades ago I was doing a build, and it wouldn't boot no matter what I did. This was back in the days of DOS, and switches, and jumpers... no PnP :eek: FINALLY ended up elmer's glueing a paper washer on top of each standoff before I mounted the board. Started right up no probs - maybe that's where your short is too??

also, I have a full set of waterblocks for a 780i That I'd be willing to let you BORROW.... or buy DS LMK

Try the washers - they are made out of heavy dute paper that looks the same as shipping envelopes. MicroCenter has them. Prolly an ofice supply too. OR, hope depot sells nylon washers that would work.

[Neuromancer]

Yeah office supply stores carry them and they should be self adhesive. They are used to reinforce 3 ring binder inserts

[kikicoco1334]

this has become a huge disaster for me

Rich, you are right on me over tightening the block, but now the board is still showing C1 error time to time if i clear the CMOS long enough it'll give me the 1D error i am almost 100% sure it's the memory controller which i am FUCKED!!

no rig no fun for me! oh well RMA time!

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki, building a water cooled rig isn't a job....

It's an adventure :D

[Mr.Scott]

this has become a huge disaster for me

Rich, you are right on me over tightening the block, but now the board is still showing C1 error time to time if i clear the CMOS long enough it'll give me the 1D error i am almost 100% sure it's the memory controller which i am FUCKED!!

no rig no fun for me! oh well RMA time!
Bent pins in the socket.:ohcrap:

[kikicoco1334]

Kiki, building a water cooled rig isn't a job....

It's an adventure :D

true very true!

I just found my NB water block for the 780 lmao

Bent pins in the socket.:ohcrap:
No idea i been looking and the socket looks perfect

and that 780 have always had probs since the first time i used it, and i was just wondering around on google seems like everyone whos got the stander 780i non-FTW have C1 error issues

oh well...

gonna try fire up my i7 rig up again :thumbsup:
trying to get ram from my friends :rofl
also looking for a cheap set of two (Frys got a set of 2x4GB from corsair for 24.99 after MIR)

[kikicoco1334]

wtf! just got that sumbitch to boot

i am on some super duper with draw on some FPS

[OC Maximus]

:boobies:

[kikicoco1334]

yeah dude you have no idea how happy i am atm!

and now i am trying to get it to boot with dual channel

gonna redo the bios real quick

[kikicoco1334]

Dear friends and family, Tu Fu came with another question.....

In the picture below is part of my rig's tubing, I was wondering why is some of my tubes are like retarded? you see the higher one it's got ziptie on it to keep it around and the one that's right below it is like flat...
Why is that?
It don't seem like it's effecting the cooling much but just wondering why the hell is it retarded like that how do i fix it?

I think it may have too much negative pressure in the loop and the tube is extremely soft
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000089.jpg

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki,
That's usually a sign of too sharp of a curve, or, the tubing is torqued.

you need to make all your bends large enough do the hose doesn't collapse. As I remember, your tubing looked pretty good??

Sometimes if you tighten a tube to a fitting and then turn the fitting down tighter, the tubing is torgued, twisted, which can cause it to flatten. If you try to turn a hoses curve against the shape that it's used to being in can cause this too.

You can also get that spiral tubing support stuff - works, but I was never a fan of how it looked.

You got top of the line tubing so I'd guess you torqued them during installation ?

Dear friends and family, Tu Fu came with another question.....

In the picture below is part of my rig's tubing, I was wondering why is some of my tubes are like retarded? you see the higher one it's got ziptie on it to keep it around and the one that's right below it is like flat...
Why is that?
It don't seem like it's effecting the cooling much but just wondering why the hell is it retarded like that how do i fix it?

I think it may have too much negative pressure in the loop and the tube is extremely soft
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000089.jpg

[OC Maximus]

Yep, negative pressure causing a rip in the time space continuum is whats causing your tubing to kink. :P

[Neuromancer]

If he got tygon tubing from what I understand it is very soft, I never used it myself. I just get the stuff from home depot, braided and really hard to flex lol

[kikicoco1334]

Just kind of a reference, for all the guys who have used PT Nuke in the past, how much did it came in the little bottle of yours? When my got here it was only half full....

Also, I popped the cap on the water res and released some of the pressure and replaced it with water and it don't seem too too bad now but that one tube still looks like handicapped


How the fuck did i forget about saying this...
Special thanks to OCMMM who's kind enough to supporting me with all the water gears, and thanks to all the oca members answering my n00b questions

Remember I posted one of the pix of my rig, and how it was running at 2800MHz ish and it's temp was like 60C idle, and 70/80C gaming (can't remember the number anymore but its around there)
Today, I got my full rig up and running and everything looks AWESOME! More importantly I got the little bastard running at 3375Mhz +/- 5% at 30C at start up 32~35C at idle and after 2hrs of black ops I was only around 48~50C

On the 8800GT it ain't lagging anymore, and it's overclocked from 600 to 700 on the core and 900 to 1150 on the ram (this is the POS ver from EVGA, N801 not the N802 or what ever the hell which one is faster and better overclockable)

[Neuromancer]

Nice going Fu.

I thought you bled your system already, so ignored your pump sucking your tubes thin lol. Again another reason not to use tygon or other softwalled tubing ;)

Im cheap though I would used softwalls too if I could afford it/got it free :)

[MaadDaawg]

Tygon is awesome tubing. Probably got the thin walled stuff instead of the thck walled stuff :P I've never had prolems with it :P

[kikicoco1334]

I ordered the thicker stuff, but they ran out of stock and i really wanted to play with it so kinda just said fuck it and went with the cheaper stuff instead

OH WELL!

just glad everything worked out great no leak so far gonna push the clock a little more to 3600ish and see what's up..

the 780i motherboard are really hot! i had to add a fan on the chip sets that's the hottest part of the case around 60C at all time

[MaadDaawg]

If you wanna use the chipset and mofset waterblocks, all ya gotta do is pay for the shipping :thumbsup: lmk via PM :D of course, you may need to re-plumb the system lol

[kikicoco1334]

Hmmm.....

[kikicoco1334]

Damn this computer!
Think i monna just sent the sum'bitch back to RMA.
It was working fine then I got home this morning and not a single thing works anymore...
FF......

[MaadDaawg]

Kiki, if you're on the 780i and it goes straight to FF, odds are good the board is shot :thumbdown:

[Mr.Scott]

Kiki, if you're on the 780i and it goes straight to FF, odds are good the board is shot :thumbdown:
+1 Yup. It's a known issue.

[kikicoco1334]

Once again, FML!

I think it's cuz the NB/SB and VRM is too TOO hot, and prob burned something
Oh well, EVGA is closed this weekend but I monna give them a buzz monday morning or something and setup a RMA and go from there.

This board has been giving me prob non stop!

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

I just read the last few pages, what pump you using Kiki? If its a variable you can slow it down, stop the tub from colapsing.

Great build log, put some spacers on them fans for better cooling.

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

I just read the last few pages, what pump you using Kiki? If its a variable you can slow it down, stop the tub from colapsing.

Great build log, put some spacers on them fans for better cooling.
:thumbsup:

[MaadDaawg]

deja vu :Dizzy::Dizzy:

[kikicoco1334]

I just read the last few pages, what pump you using Kiki? If its a variable you can slow it down, stop the tub from colapsing.

Great build log, put some spacers on them fans for better cooling.
:thumbsup:

Thanks mate, my pump is the MCP655 it does have a variable switch in the bad I'll try that when I get my board RMAed :thumbsup:

THB for the 72hrs when it was running it ran REALLY well, about a little more than half of what the temp on air, and about 700mhz more overclocked

Need to RMA the ram, one of my video card and this board lol this is gonna be fun and my GPS

[kikicoco1334]

The Rig

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000116.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000114.jpg

[MaadDaawg]

Rads look pretty sick Bro :D

[kikicoco1334]

Here is a better look at the rig, this was taken before I put it by the TV

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000093.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000094.jpg

[MaadDaawg]

only 1 fan on the lower rad?

Looks nice and clean though :thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

Yeah, 1 fan on the lower rad is enough for what I use it for, wish i can pull up the temp for y'all, on the video card it's clocked at 700/1150(may be 1200) and CPU clocked at 3400/3500 playing black ops and nothing gos over 55 most the time video card don't even hit 50

Im surprised no one have given me shit for not having BD/DVD/CD drive yet

[Mr.Scott]

Put another fan on that rad and I won't.;)

[Neuromancer]

Im surprised no one have given me shit for not having BD/DVD/CD drive yet

Why would someone give you shit for not having an optical drive? So what if you do not live in the past :)

I have one DVDRW in the server, no other PCs in the house have an optical drive.

If I need something, I put it in the server and ISO it.

If I need to install something I make a bootable USB stick, faster and lasts a hell of a lot longer :)

Case looks good though kiki, very functional.

[MaadDaawg]

Put another fan on that rad and I won't.;)

Put 3 more fans on the outside sucking air.. probably save you a few degrees, especially on the lower one. Save Mr. Scott the trouble of giving you shit too :D

[OC Maximus]

I'm with ya Rich.

I have an optical drive in my server. That's it. No need for an optical drive in my main rig or laptop.

[kikicoco1334]

I have a BD-RW in my mobile rig so i pretty much just ISO EVERYTHING i got and dump it on the server and just remote in and go from there lol

That been said, I should have a new mobo mailed in to me soon
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3 hope that works out in the end.

[kikicoco1334]

k so back to this thread again, just got the board and running again, everything runs great expt one little thing....
there is shit still growing in my fucking loop when i added 20 drops of PT Nuke in it

FOOKING PISSED right now

any idea what to do?

that's like $36 worth of tubes and i just got books and now i am broke.....

[OC Maximus]

Does the bottle say to use 20 drops?

[DOM]

Does the bottle say to use 20 drops?

It's says 1 drop per liter :rofl

[OC Maximus]

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/sidewindercomputers_2189_6574149

Product Description & Info
Petra'sTech PT_Nuke-PHN is a specially formulated Benzalkonium chloride solution intended for use for non domasses in your water cooled PC. Primarily geared toward systems running straight distilled water, Nuke -PHN is not acidic and will not drop your coolant's pH, making it ideal for use in poorly buffered coolants and situations where corrosion is a concern (since many corrosion inhibitors are optimized for use within a pH range of 7-8.5). However, we do not recommend the use of Nuke -PHN with most "pre-mixed PC coolants" and dyes (though, our testing indicates that there may be no compatibility issue with Feser's UV dyes). Do not mix Nuke -PHN with the original Copper sulfate based PT Nuke.


Instructions & Ingredients:

Use: Add 4 drops per 1L of coolant for approx. 2ppm
Active Ingredient: Benzalkonium chloride 1.65%

Warning: This product contains Benzalkonium chloride. DO NOT INGEST DOM! AVOID CONTACT WITH EYES AND SKIN TU FU! KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN AND PETS, DUH!

• If ingested, do not induce vomiting cause your a moron. Give plenty of water to drink and seek medical attention.

• If contact with skin occurs, rinse with plenty of water. Seek medical attention if pain or irritation persists.

• Contact with eyes can result in corneal damage--AVOID CONTACT WITH EYES! If contact with eyes occurs, go ahead and eat a bullet because your a stupid ass. If sensitivity to light you just might be a Vampire, seek medical attention immediately.

:)

[DOM]

mines old it says 1 drop :P

mines light blue lol

[kikicoco1334]

i just wanna make sure NOT a single thing grows in it and it still did FML

[OC Maximus]

Well....

[HybridChiller]

i use my own mix of liquid, now already for one year and it's still clear as hell my liquid.

i buy a bottle of 100% pure Ethylene Glycol (no color) and 100% H²O.

use a mix of 15% Glycol.

After 1 year didn't change it at all, still no green or anything else in my loop, and it runs 16hours a day my rig.

[Mr.Scott]

mines old it says 1 drop :P

mines light blue lol
That's the original Copper sulfate based PT Nuke. It's actually better than the new stuff.;)

[kikicoco1334]

i have the light blue ones too :D

but yeah like chiller said i am getting ready to mix my own and go from there....

how this rig is bsoding at stock i have no idea what the hell iz going anymore....
i have a feeling is the ram. but that's just me

[MaadDaawg]

mines old it says 1 drop :P

mines light blue lol

mine says 1 drop per liter too

[kikicoco1334]

fixed on the bsoding issues, it's the ram that was bad....
brand new from rma and it's bsoding calling corsair on my way to skool tomorrow morning :)

[kikicoco1334]

Here is a full list of what's in my rig...

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 (http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLAWE.html) M1 SLAWE L805A907 @ ?????
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2846#ov) 10B BIOS
RAM: Corsair Dominator GT Redline (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145270)2x2GB 1066 @ ?????
Video card 1: EVGA 8800GT N801 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318) @ Core.730/Shader.1825/Mem.1010
Video card 2: XFX HD4350 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150335) @ full stock
PSU: Corsair CX430 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=Corsair%20CX430)
Sound Card: Creative Audigy 2 ZS (http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=2602)
Speaker set 1: Logitech Z-5300 (http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=2602)
Speaker set 2: Bose 3-2-1 (http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/home_theater/21channel_systems/321_systems/321_gs/index.jsp)
Display #1 - 8800GT: HP 1730 [Gamer]
Display #1 - HD4350: SONY 40S4100 60Hz [Movie ONLY]
Display #2 - HD4350: Gateway FPD1810 [KVM between Bench rig, FTP server and main rig]
Case: Antec Sonata Proto (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129086)

I/O Device
Keybaord: ??????????? ?????? ???
Mouse: MX510

Cooling:
CPU: D-TEK FuZion v2 (http://www.dtekcustoms.com/d-tekfuzionv2cpublock.aspx)
GPU: Swiftech MCW80
Pump: Swiftech MCP-655 (http://www.swiftech.com/mcp655.aspx)
Rad #1: Swiftech MCR-320
Rad #2: Swiftech MCR-320
Res: Swiftech MCRES Micro v1


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000093.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1000094.jpg

[Gutterz]

how about an inside pic?

[kikicoco1334]

As you wish!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1010264.jpg

Can't really do cabling >.<
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/P1010270.jpg

[MaadDaawg]

looking good Kiki :thumbsup:

[OC Maximus]

looks cabled to me :)

Nice work bruddah http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr4/383HEMI/_thb_MG_Shaka_Remake.png

[Mr.Scott]

You have all the stuff running off a 430w PSU with 28 amps on the +12? :scared:

No wonder you have so many problems. Little lean on the power my friend.

[kikicoco1334]

thanks guys, i am rmaing my 650 antec i should be dropping it in when it gets back


(is it really that power hungry? i ran that setup with 6x7200RPM SATA drives for like a year with no prob >.<)

[Gutterz]

all these towers an loops, makes me want to ditch my dust collecting torture rack.

[kikicoco1334]

lol, i ran open case for like month lol

[MaadDaawg]

A guy named Duke used to use nylon ties instead of clamps. IIRC , he discontinued taht after burning out a mobo... IIRC

[MaadDaawg]

kIKI,

I have an unmarked "stealth" 750watt power supply I'll send ya if you pay the shipping. Brand new, never used Cooler Master beta PSU.

I told them I had the i7 975 setup with multiple cards etc and they sent a unit I couldn't use. I tried to send it back but they didn't want it. Not sure how it works, but I would think it couldn't be less of a PSU than the one ya got now.

pm me if you're interested

~MD

[Mr.Scott]

kIKI,

I have an unmarked "stealth" 750watt power supply I'll send ya if you pay the shipping. Brand new, never used Cooler Master beta PSU.

I told them I had the i7 975 setup with multiple cards etc and they sent a unit I couldn't use. I tried to send it back but they didn't want it. Not sure how it works, but I would think it couldn't be less of a PSU than the one ya got now.

pm me if you're interested

~MD
A very generous offer. You better jump on that.

[kikicoco1334]

Thank you MD!
You sir have a new PM in your box


But yeah I didn't know you can kill a board by under voltaging....
Prob another reason why my chip isn't overclocking at all. It didn't even wanna hit 400Mhz on the bus :shock:


My current board also only have 4pin vs 8pin like anyother boards got, ther then the 24pin on board power, that could also be one of the things i am missing

http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/2846/948.jpg

[Witchdoctor]

Stand up Daawg ..................... :thumbsup:

[Mr.Scott]

You're a good man Jimbo. +1 to you.:thumbsup:

[kikicoco1334]

You're a good man Jimbo. +1 to you.:thumbsup:
very much so!

[kikicoco1334]

Quick update to fill y'all in.

Here is my SLAWE @ 3.0GHz 400 x 7.5 @ 1.60/1.70v

So far it seems very stable (or most stable then before.)
I don't ever see the 8800 going over 44C on any load, and CPU jumps between mid/high 50s to low 70s for 1.60v

Still working on the ram because the FSB and the ram are linked with 400mhz so i can pick between 960 and 1260 and i KNOW i can't get it to boot at 1260 so just matter of how low i can get the timing (5-4-4-15 @ 2.20v is a no go)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Tempaftertest.png

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/ghostloveff/Project%20Hybrid%20Water/Tempaftertest2.png

[kikicoco1334]

just a real quick update....
i am an idiot....
i was wondering the chip and the vga runs so damn hot can't find anything wrong with in the rig, the water heats up so much the rads are getting hot too....
then i tried to install some lights in the rig and touched the fans, those suckers wasn't even spinning at all!!

and now..
only now, my rig is in the happy temp on the vga @ 37~39 and some how the cpu runs really hot and needs alot of voltage still trying to get that taking care of

[kikicoco1334]

Question.
How bad is it to have stuff growing in your loop?
does it just make it look nasty or does it actually effect anything?

I really think my loop is getting worst even tho i leave it running about 18hrs a day

[Witchdoctor]

not good dude, depending on the block, injection blocks be affected more so

you will need to ake it down and clean it out

refill w/distilled water and one can of this

http://www.dtekcustoms.com/supercool4oz.aspx

[kikicoco1334]

Thank you Witchy, got a huge week coming up i'll take the rig a part after ;)

[OC Maximus]

Stop using toilet water. Get yourself some distilled water from the supermarket. My rig has been running forever without any growth what-so-ever.

[kikicoco1334]

I did get distilled water from Koreger!!!

[Neuromancer]

Wow can't even spell the name of your local supermarket. Kroger. Did you buy the right stuff? IE distilled water is not Deionized water.

[kikicoco1334]

yeah sure did!

[OC Maximus]

Is this rig still running?

[kikicoco1334]

no sir. right now I am running off a mid ATX case with the rad hanging on top of the case (out side)

[OC Maximus]

Cool, at least your still on water. I'm going from water to air on the 24/7 rig. It's time foe a change. After taking a look at temps I may switch back to water. We'll see.....