Radiator Capabilities

[MaadDaawg]

I'm putting together a new gaming/work rig with a w/c Classy & 980X and two w/c GTX 580's.

I have one 3x140mm Feser Monsta rads mounted at the top of the Corsair 800D and I have a Thermochill (the new kind) 1x120mm sitting on the bottom of the case between the power suppliy and the extra HDD drive bays. Dual D5's in that new Koolance 2 bay rasv so I could run 2 loops or 1 loop with 2 pumps.

Problem is, I'm thinking the 1x120 won't do much more than the chipset w/o the CPU while I'm also worried that the 3x140 Monsta may not be up to both the CPU and the GPUSs. Am I wrong about either of these?

I also have a Feser Duo 2x120, but I would either have to mount it on the back or cut out the lower HDD cage and slip it in the bottom.

Would appreciate some feedback since it's been awhile since I've undertaken a serious water build

thanks Bros

I still have the two feser quads, but I'm trying to keep this one sophisiticated looking :P

[kikicoco1334]

dude i'll be a really nice project system! 980 + 2 way 580!
yeah i'd say one 3x120mm per hardware i'll be REALLY cool! pump would be nice if it's like a fish tank pump of some kind...

or hell if you wanna have some REAL fun get a car rad and be done with it :P

[rickss69]

How about a Watercool Mo-Ra?

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq69/rickss69/Mora001.jpg
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German made, here is a thread showing the latest offering of a standalone external unit which is very classy...right up your alley Jim. ;) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=249667

[kikicoco1334]

That seems really nice but the price....

[Cyberjackal]

Very Nice Rickss. I'm building a watercooled system myself as well - and i'm fairly new at building them. Know a good reliable place to get a Mo-Ra? would like to check it out.
Have some waterblocks in mind, but what would you guys pair with something like this?

Been looking at the Swiftech H2O-220 (dual 120s) & 320 (triple 120s)... and EK's equivalent for the i7 & dual EVGA GTX 570 SC based system that I'm putting together.

Thnx for the post MD :thumbsup:

[OC Maximus]

That thing is nice Rick!

[rickss69]

Here is where I bought mine a long time ago... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=59_457_667_913

Can't seem to find that fancy housing shown in the thread above... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_458&products_id=30141

[kikicoco1334]

dude that's a bad ass site with some real nice stuff in it man!
thinkin about gettin a universal gpu block sometime soon

[rickss69]

dude that's a bad ass site with some real nice stuff in it man!
thinkin about gettin a universal gpu block sometime soon

Probably your best bet with all the mounting options... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_240_746&products_id=26243

Another option with possibly more mounting options tho I have not tried this one... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_240_581&products_id=27108

[kikicoco1334]

Probably your best bet with all the mounting options... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_240_746&products_id=26243

Another option with possibly more mounting options tho I have not tried this one... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_240_581&products_id=27108
thanks bro the koolance may be the one i monna end up with

[MaadDaawg]

Yeah Rick, I've seen those German Quads and it would have been a nice touch, but I started this project with the plan of staying inside the case, which is why I bought the 3 x 140mm Monsta Lite - fits right in the top of the case and is easily a match for the Feser 4x120 Quad (one and a half inches shorter but 1 and a half inches wider)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_458&products_id=27882

on top of that I own 2 Feser Quads 4x120, the Feser Duo 2x120 and the thermochill 1x120 and can fit one or the other inside, with a little modding required to fit the duo.

Can't be buying that flat dude now but it would have been a great place to start:thumbsup:

Maybe next time :P

[MaadDaawg]

The H20-220 is a great little starter kit, especiallyh back in the societ 775 days. I've known people to use them on i7s too though. Good pump, good CPU block, just the rad kind of sucks :P Can't go wrong to use it to get your feet wet :P



Very Nice Rickss. I'm building a watercooled system myself as well - and i'm fairly new at building them. Know a good reliable place to get a Mo-Ra? would like to check it out.
Have some waterblocks in mind, but what would you guys pair with something like this?

Been looking at the Swiftech H2O-220 (dual 120s) & 320 (triple 120s)... and EK's equivalent for the i7 & dual EVGA GTX 570 SC based system that I'm putting together.

Thnx for the post MD :thumbsup:

[Witchdoctor]

Ahhh

So let me see

1 - 3x140 ?
1 - 2x120
1 - 1x120

Is that correct :Dizzy:

if so ....

Personally I would use three pumps, just a little pisser for the chipset with the single 1x120

3x140 GPU's and th 2x120 for the CPU

All on there own loop

2x120 I doubt would be able to hold down 2x 580's at a decent clock ...

I would also look to get as much Volume in the CPU and GPU loops to the tune of dual bays for each loop and just a micro or even a fill port for the chipset ....

[Cyberjackal]

The H20-220 is a great little starter kit, especiallyh back in the societ 775 days. I've known people to use them on i7s too though. Good pump, good CPU block, just the rad kind of sucks :P Can't go wrong to use it to get your feet wet :P

So what would you guys use for rads/pumps or whatever?? I was actually leaning towards the H20-320 triple over the dual - that is before I caught a good look at the MO-RA3. ;) I'm after the highest stable overclocks I can possibly get on a watercooled system. Looking at the 2600k so far unless something better comes out before purchase - the cpu & gpu's will be the last things I get. Whatever I get I'd definitely be swapping out the fans for maximum airflow - I'm talking 90CFM or higher if possible.

I'm also looking at the EK-Supreme HF (high flow) waterblock for my cpu & something pretty darn close in performance for the nb/sb chipsets as well.

What would you guys do for the cpu & gpu's as far as watercooling goes? and why? -if you don't mind my asking. I'm just after the most reliable watercooling system possible (not a "starter kit") - even if I have to piece it together myself

[Witchdoctor]

As far as pumps go, these so called PC water cooling pumps suck balls as far as I am concerned.... bar none there simply is not a good one made IMHO

Eheim fish tank pumps will move some water, if you are handy you just need a relay to switch the voltage and make it come on with boot up. or a 120v switch will do, just don't forget to turn it on

They will whip the shit out of anything on these so called designer bend me over water cooling sites


I have a 655 .... total POS my 1250 smoked this thing. george has it now. back in the day they even had a PCI card to bring it on at boot ....

LOL we were making our own blocks back then.... :laughing:

:ohcrap:Thats as honest as I can be

[MaadDaawg]

Ahhh

So let me see

1 - 3x140 ?
1 - 2x120
1 - 1x120

Is that correct :Dizzy:


well...:blush: close but no cupie, kinka my fault for not mentioning the others I have - besides, you forgot the 2 ea 4x120 Feser quads which I believe I DID mention :laughing:

I've also got a Swifty 2x120 and a Swifty 2x120 stackable which I doubt I'll ever use :Dizzy: Keep in mind the 2x120 and 1x120 as well as the 3x140 are all either Feser or Thermochill so they're the nice big thick bad boys, not the skinny little runts like the Swifties :rofl:

I had though of three pumps but decided on the following
- The CPU and chipset to to the Feser Monsta Lite up top
- The GPUs go/from first the Feser Duo that I mounted on the back, then to the Thermochill on the bottom of the case.

OR... might split the CPUs and have one GPU and the CPU go to the Monsta and 1 GPU and the chipset go to the double rad setup

Didn't use my DD 2 bay resvs caue I fell in love with this
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=2025

The pumps screw into the sides and are invisible to the outside world. A third pump and resv would kill the clean but deadly look I'm trying to achieve. :rofl:

[Witchdoctor]

What kind of flow rate to you think these pumps can deleiver

Tubulance = WIN

[rickss69]

These are about the only ones I have ever used... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_367&products_id=4510

[Witchdoctor]

This 900 GPH Beast has win writen all over it

Better not use those plastic clamps with this monster boys and girls :laughing:

http://www.valuepetsupplies.com/Eheim-1262-900GPH-Universal-pump/Fish-Supplies/Pumps/Eheim-p7910921.html?CAWELAID=425387448

[Cyberjackal]

well...:blush: close but no cupie, kinka my fault for not mentioning the others I have - besides, you forgot the 2 ea 4x120 Feser quads which I believe I DID mention :laughing:

I've also got a Swifty 2x120 and a Swifty 2x120 stackable which I doubt I'll ever use :Dizzy: Keep in mind the 2x120 and 1x120 as well as the 3x140 are all either Feser or Thermochill so they're the nice big thick bad boys, not the skinny little runts like the Swifties :rofl:

I had though of three pumps but decided on the following
- The CPU and chipset to to the Feser Monsta Lite up top
- The GPUs go/from first the Feser Duo that I mounted on the back, then to the Thermochill on the bottom of the case.

OR... might split the CPUs and have one GPU and the CPU go to the Monsta and 1 GPU and the chipset go to the double rad setup

Didn't use my DD 2 bay resvs caue I fell in love with this
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=2025

The pumps screw into the sides and are invisible to the outside world. A third pump and resv would kill the clean but deadly look I'm trying to achieve. :rofl:


Nice! Seen a couple pretty sweet Koolance WC setups in person as well. The dual 5.25" drive bay res&pump setups remind me of the CM Aquagate Max. I see they're between 4.6-6GPH in terms of flow with the PMP-450S pump. They pretty awesome at cooling?

This 900 GPH Beast has win writen all over it

Better not use those plastic clamps with this monster boys and girls :laughing:

http://www.valuepetsupplies.com/Eheim-1262-900GPH-Universal-pump/Fish-Supplies/Pumps/Eheim-p7910921.html?CAWELAID=425387448

lol that's quite the increase... These 900GPH pumps made for fish tanks have any probs with "forcing leaks" in tubes, joints, or waterblocks?

[Mr.Scott]

lol that's quite the increase... These 900GPH pumps made for fish tanks have any probs with "forcing leaks" in tubes, joints, or waterblocks?
They have no problem forcing leaks in almost anything. If you wind up using one, make sure you use good tube and your shit is tight.

[Witchdoctor]

No doubt about it.

Lucky for me I am a plumber by trade ............ :laughing:

SS clamps =WIN

don't forget to grease those O-rings


For real though with the right block the tubulence caused by flow rates such as this bring abient air to another level.

I have a 655 and it a weak soul, My gold fish doesn't even like it .... lol, but seriously ripping though as many blocks and rads the daawg is talking about here will take a serious pump ....

[OC Maximus]

I love my three swiffy 3x120s, have yet to fail me. Then again, I've never had a higher end rad. 2c

[MaadDaawg]

Hey! I got one of those :)

This 900 GPH Beast has win writen all over it

Better not use those plastic clamps with this monster boys and girls :laughing:

http://www.valuepetsupplies.com/Eheim-1262-900GPH-Universal-pump/Fish-Supplies/Pumps/Eheim-p7910921.html?CAWELAID=425387448

Planning on using two Laing D5s set on 5 (well, it looks like 2 but it's actually 5) Don't anticipate any problmes but I'll let you know :) Using a Kryos HP which has higher back pressure than the GTZ, so if that don't work I'll have to get one or two of those eheims you use Rick - Never used anything other eheim on my fish tanks :P

[Witchdoctor]

serious pump for serious people ............... :laughing:

I am sure you will be fine, I am just disapointed in the preformance of my 655

[Cyberjackal]

serious pump for serious people ............... :laughing:

I am sure you will be fine, I am just disapointed in the preformance of my 655

May I ask what model of the 655 you had & what you disliked about it?

Found about 4 or 5 "Uber 655's" a while ago here (I assume it's the same kind?): http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=59_201&zenid=b98e9eb4f3a165c92b773876d90688b2

[Neuromancer]

I love my three swiffy 3x120s, have yet to fail me. Then again, I've never had a higher end rad. 2c

MOAR is better than Better :)

That is the Overclockers way :)

Seriously, would you BUY a preclocked 5GHz Sandy Bridge setup? If it cost twice as much as what you could, but was a nice tight package?

Same with Rads. I wouldnt use less than a 3x120 for a 1366 CPU. Maybe 4x120 for a GT. Otherwise might as well just do air.

GPUs are better heaters. I know my 580GTX runs very cool. But it has a great Heatsinks design and the air coming out the back is a great way to warm the fingers when benching some extreme air even at idle

[Patch]

3 pumps would be overkill. The monsta isn't restrictive at all - heck, didn't somebody post some review claiming it was less restrictive than an equivalent length of plain 3/4 tubing? 2 D5's would be plenty, and I'd put em in series rather than separate loops. Monsta and a 120 would do you fine IMO. Heck the monsta alone would be fine if you were using any card other than 580's/480's.

Overkill is great, but if you're truly trying to make this one tidy I wouldn't sweat it too much.