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ny_driver
02-11-2011, 06:45 AM
I'm using partition logic and I cannot seem to get 4 equal sized partitions. It partitions, but not the size I want after the 1st partition is created.

Trying to get this ironed out before next week when the SSD gets here.

Thanks for reading.

GeorgeStorm
02-11-2011, 07:13 AM
Why do all 4 have to be the same size?
What's going wrong?
I've never had issues partitioning drives after an initial partition?

DOM
02-11-2011, 07:22 AM
i do mine in when installing the os

ny_driver
02-11-2011, 07:49 AM
I guess they don't have to, but would be nice if they were all fairly equal. I get the 1st one set to ~12GB and then when I set the 2nd one to the same amount of clusters it ends up being twice as big as I want. I want 3 for OS's and 1 waza.

I wish I could give better answers, maybe just try while installing windows.

Witchdoctor
02-11-2011, 08:19 AM
should be able to slice and dice it any way you want in windows set up

diskpart works good for dos and if you already have XP on, use this...

http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html

only 32bit is freeware so has to be used with XP for set up then your good to go

any of these should give you the desired result


good luck

Chuchnit
02-11-2011, 08:27 AM
NY do you have a screenie of what the partitions end up being?

ny_driver
02-11-2011, 08:36 AM
No I don't, but when I create them with the same amount of clusters each one seems to get progressively larger.

Never tried creating multiple partitions in setup before I guess that would be easy enough.

Thanks guys.:thumbsup:

ny_driver
02-11-2011, 12:24 PM
Hey I got it figured out guys, I just did it in XP setup like you said.:blush:Thanks.

Now it's time to figure out spi before my triple channels get here :)

Neuromancer
02-11-2011, 02:18 PM
Use Vista DVD to partition. It creates the correct offset for aligned partitions.
Important on HDDs it is even more important on SSDs

You can also use a non ultimate windows 7 DVD to create partitions too. If you use ultimate (or Pro I think) it will force you to add the 100/200MB partition for EFS, it is unneccesary and a pain to get rid of later so just use Vista.

ny_driver
02-11-2011, 02:38 PM
I didn't even get Vista yet, although I made a partition for it. I made the 4 x 14GB partitions with xp setup. Good size or too big?

And they are misalligned you say? I figured that would be the case, but it's ok this is just a test. :)

Should I just get Vista and install that 1st?....ohh and which version of Vista?

Neuromancer
02-11-2011, 03:49 PM
Install OSes based on age. XP first, server 2K3 second Vista 3rd and 7 fourth.


If you have a windows 7 PC up and running, you can install the drive as an external (or internal) and format that way. That will provide the proper alignment without installing the EFS partition.

If you do not have Vista, you can find the Vista recovery disk online its a small Download that can be booted from a USB stick. I do not recall if you will have GUI formatting available but you can boot to command prompt and run diskpart.

ny_driver
02-11-2011, 04:19 PM
Hmmm...the 4th partition was for Wazza. I didn't know I needed 2K3 also.

EDIT: what benches are Vista for, and 2K3 as well?

Kal-EL
02-11-2011, 06:27 PM
I"m pretty sure 05 is Vista and anything pi is 2003, pifast, superpi 1m 32m. You can't go terribly wrong in xp tho.

ny_driver
02-11-2011, 07:42 PM
Good summary, ty. I've never used 2K3 but I'm sure I'll figure it out. Is there a Tiny2K3 I should get, or TinyVista?

Kal-EL
02-11-2011, 09:02 PM
better summary:
SuperPi 1M = Windows Server 2003 Enterprize edi. aka TaiServer
SuperPi 32M = Windows Server 2003 Enterprize edi. aka TaiServer
3DMark2001SE = Windows Lite
3DMark03 = Windows Lite
3DMark05 = Windows Lite
3DMark06 = Windows Lite
3DMark Vantage = Tiny 7
AquaMark 3 = Tiny 7
Heaven = Tiny 7

kikicoco1334
02-11-2011, 10:04 PM
better summary:
SuperPi 1M = Windows Server 2003 Enterprize edi. aka TaiServer
SuperPi 32M = Windows Server 2003 Enterprize edi. aka TaiServer
3DMark2001SE = Windows Lite
3DMark03 = Windows Lite
3DMark05 = Windows Lite
3DMark06 = Windows Lite
3DMark Vantage = Tiny 7
AquaMark 3 = Tiny 7
Heaven = Tiny 7

with rick's tweaks!
for SuperPi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZ7taeywWU
works GREAT!
i'll make a guide for the chinese server with that guide

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 08:25 AM
So why do I want TinyXP on there? Is it really best for any benchmarks or is it actually just going to be wasted space?

kikicoco1334
02-12-2011, 09:15 AM
So why do I want TinyXP on there? Is it really best for any benchmarks or is it actually just going to be wasted space?
it's not bad it's just matter of what bench are you running tiny xp rev 09 = xp sp3

Kal-EL
02-12-2011, 10:12 AM
Windows Lite or Tiny XP (interchangeable)

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Hey what's up with that TaiServer I d/l........it's in some other language and it needs to be activated to finish the installation unless I did it from wiindows but I don't see how that will work.

And I don't dare go back there now until you send me the new p/w.

DOM
02-12-2011, 10:48 AM
How to install Chinese Windows 2003

http://overclockaholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4037

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 10:51 AM
Hmmmmm.......funny how we don't just use the English version. Thanks DOM!!

DOM
02-12-2011, 10:54 AM
its good for super pi 32m but i havent tryed it lol

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 11:00 AM
Wow that's all it's good for? Seems like a lot of trouble....all the images in the instructions are missing I can't do anything with this.

How is the Chinese version be better at spi32m than the English version?

Wow I wasted 2 dvds now today burning winLite and TaiServer. I already have TinyXP and I can't read Chinese.:Dizzy::argh:

OC Maximus
02-12-2011, 11:36 AM
lol, Damn Imageshac!!!

I'm currently using winFLP for spi32m. Haven't got taiserver to install yet since I'm an hhd short. Taiserver doesn't install on ssd.

Kal-EL
02-12-2011, 11:40 AM
Im@geshack images have just recently been banned here at oca because it often times gets hijacked by trojan downloaders. Kikis tutorial needs to be re-uploaded.

Just use tinyxp for now, taiserver just happens to be the fastest os for super PI 32m right now. A great many overclockers have tested all forms of xp and found an anomoly with taiserver in which its a little faster than the rest.

The dvd's are not a waste, hold onto them forever and install as needed for your current goals. We just need to adjust the tutorial images for yah. KIKI!

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 12:32 PM
I'll install Lite, Tiny, 2K3 (english for now), Vista, and Tiny7 so I can test them all out. ;) I have a 60GB SSD on the way....I gotta figure out the best way to break it up. I guess 10GB@ and the rest for Wazza. Sound good?

Kal-EL
02-12-2011, 03:43 PM
Yah, sounds good, not sure if Vista will let you get away with it, been a while since I've played Vista. 30gb for the others and 15 for vista = 45 and change for whatever.

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 03:58 PM
I don't see how to make the partitions on the 2nd drive while in my Windows 7 disk management screen? Neuromancer was saying that I could make all the partitions and have them be properly aligned. Help please.:blush:

Kal-EL
02-12-2011, 04:15 PM
be careful when fuddling around in the disk management, meaning, make sure you are manipulating the drive you intend on manipulating.

Having said that, when you look at the disk manager, you'll see:
4584

Volumes at the top and disk 0,1,2,3,4,5 etc on the bottom. In my screenshot, disk 0 is actually my backup drive and not an operating system drive. Disk 1 is my Raid/OS drive. On that drive I have 3 partitions (1 small partition in the front aka 7 ultimate standard). The two latter partitions are my WIN7 32 and 64 bit partitions. At the back of that drive is UNALLOCATED DISK SPACE.

Simply right click and select "new simple volume" and then decide how big that partition will be during the following prompts.

O.k. so you have a disk# that doesnt have any partitions on it. YOu may have to initially right click the disk# and initialize it. More than likely it will already say "UNNALLOCATED DISK SPACE" in black, just right click there and select new simple volume.

Lemme know if this helps or if I've just missed what your asking for.

ny_driver
02-12-2011, 04:23 PM
I got that far, but after I have created the 1st "new simple volume" I can't make another one. Maybe I'm just being dense.

EDIT: I was just being stupid as usual......trying to create another new volume in the one I just made instead of in the unallocated space. :blush:

Kal-EL
02-12-2011, 04:38 PM
Way to work thru the dense fog brudder :P

kikicoco1334
02-13-2011, 11:06 AM
i am gonna re do it under photobucket

ny_driver
02-13-2011, 03:34 PM
Install OSes based on age. XP first, server 2K3 second Vista 3rd and 7 fourth.

Now is this absolutely critical in order for them to all work?

I installed Lite 1st, then 7 on the 4th partition and it was working fine...boot to either one. But then I installed server2003 enterprise edition, and I can no longer boot to 7.

2K3 is a pain and I can't get it set up.....I can't use my DVD for some reason it tells me "hardware monitor driver failed to load" . I can explore the DVD but can't run it while in 2K3.

I can't get VGA drivers to work on it either.

Kal-EL
02-13-2011, 03:53 PM
If using ATI vga, check that you have .net framework installed.
Yes, its critical to install the os in order of release, xp32,xp64,server2003, vista32,vista64, server2008, window732, windows764. oldest to newest will keep the boot loader functioning. Else you will need to play with bcdedit, or a bootloader app, the names slip my mind atm.

You might wanna just give it another install oldest to newest.

69_Goat
02-13-2011, 03:58 PM
Actually, you can install the operating systems in any order. There's just less hassle if you install from oldest to newest.

I use a program called EasyBCD, and what it does is restore the Master Boot Record, or MBR, after an older OS overwrite it.

Here is a tutorial on using EasyBCD.

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed _first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm

ny_driver
02-13-2011, 04:28 PM
I don't mind re-installing, I just needed to know that would fix it.

Maybe I'll use kikis updated guide and figure out the TaiServer. Might as well. :thumbsup: