Intel recalls SB chipsets... [Archive] - Overclockaholics Forums

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 06:57 AM

Article is here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/intel-finds-sandy-bridge-chipset-design-flaw-shipments-stopped/
Looks like some problem with the SATA controller...

rickss69

01-31-2011, 07:09 AM

Possibly the reason for all my OS failures? I think my chip just died...crawling atm just trying to install a simple app.

DrNip

01-31-2011, 07:09 AM

Great. Got me a nice chip and now this.

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 07:10 AM

It doesn't affect the chips, just the chipsets, so motherboards ;)
And yes rick, quite possible.
Retailers aren't going to be happy with all the RMAs, and intel say they should be getting new boards out toward the end of feb, and have full production back by april.
Bit of a wait...

DrNip

01-31-2011, 07:12 AM

It doesn't affect the chips, just the chipsets, so motherboards ;)

Whew. Thanks. I'm a jacktard sometime.

Possibly the reason for all my OS failures? I think my chip just died...crawling atm just trying to install a simple app.

In its statement, the company states that customers who have taken delivery of systems with the P67 and H67 "Cougar Point" chipsets can continue to use their systems "with confidence," suggesting that the flaw is restricted to a performance issue and cannot cause data loss.

Source: http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2011/01/intel-recalls-sandy-bridge-chipsets-due-to-sata-screw-up.ars

My guess is it isn't causing your OS to bork. Then again I dunno.

Hondacity

01-31-2011, 07:13 AM

already rma'd before news came out :D

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 07:24 AM

Good work, but looks like you won't get a new working board till mid feb :/

Hondacity

01-31-2011, 07:35 AM

oh im getting another board :D

most boards have multiple sata controllers anyway

rickss69

01-31-2011, 07:36 AM

No matter as it appears my 2600K is beyond repair as well. This has been a fine adventure...

kikicoco1334

01-31-2011, 07:43 AM

sleeping on it :D

rickss69

01-31-2011, 08:04 AM

Now I am beginning to wonder if Evga knew this all along and is the reason for not releasing any of their motherboards for this platform. :cool3:

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 08:08 AM

WTF,

looks like I will be RMAing mine ........ :shock:

Lost a Win 7 install last night bebching 05 :blush:

DrNip

01-31-2011, 08:15 AM

Now I am beginning to wonder if Evga knew this all along and is the reason for not releasing any of their motherboards for this platform. :cool3:

Good damn question my man.

kikicoco1334

01-31-2011, 08:26 AM

Now I am beginning to wonder if Evga knew this all along and is the reason for not releasing any of their motherboards for this platform. :cool3:
+1

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 08:31 AM

I doubt it, I mean, looking at anandtech, intel say failure rate is 5-15% over 3 years.
So it can't be that bad.
And I don' see how they could have known?

Hondacity

01-31-2011, 08:33 AM

I doubt it, I mean, looking at anandtech, intel say failure rate is 5-15% over 3 years.
So it can't be that bad.
And I don' see how they could have known?
+1

evga doesn't have money ..lol

Kal-EL

01-31-2011, 08:43 AM

Article is here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/intel-finds-sandy-bridge-chipset-design-flaw-shipments-stopped/
Looks like some problem with the SATA controller...
Interesting..

rickss69

01-31-2011, 09:56 AM

All I can tell you is I have lost every ssd/hdd install I have prepared for this mb...I have never had that kind of luck with any other platform and I used to swap drives between platforms with no problems.

So I guess it is up to us to contact Asus and get another mb?

OC Maximus

01-31-2011, 09:57 AM

recall only affects "some desktop boards based on Intel P67 chipset,"

Waiting on comprehensive list...............

So far I haven't found any sata problems or lost any OSes with my UD5 so I'm crossing my fingers. Seems like my board is doing fine, except for the memory (hypers) compatibility issues :argh: which may or may not eventually be fixed via bios update. Think its time to invest in some Gskills.

Hondacity

01-31-2011, 10:06 AM

what is your sata controller.....

rickss69

01-31-2011, 10:08 AM

RMA approved by NewEgg - Both cpu and mb going back tm.

OC Maximus

01-31-2011, 10:37 AM

anandtech article (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6series-chipset-begins-recall)

Interestingly enough the problem doesn’t affect ports 1 & 2 on the 6-series chipset. Remember that Intel has two 6Gbps ports and four 3Gbps ports on P67/H67, only the latter four are impacted by this problem.

Intel's DP67BG—The blue SATA ports on the right are 6Gbps, the black ones are 3Gbps. The Blue ports are unaffected by the bug.

If you’re a current Sandy Bridge user and want to be sure you don’t have any problems until you can get replacement hardware, stick to using the 6Gbps ports on your board (which should be the first two ports).

The Fix

The SATA bug exists in hardware and there’s no way to provide a driver or firmware update that can fix it. The fix requires a metal layer change, which will result in a new hardware stepping (resulting in the ~3 week delay before replacement hardware is ready).

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 10:41 AM

ether.real

01-31-2011, 11:23 AM

I doubt it, I mean, looking at anandtech, intel say failure rate is 5-15% over 3 years.
So it can't be that bad.
And I don' see how they could have known?

Might have failed an internal qual. You would be surprised the kind of stuff that gets found after release to customer.

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 11:47 AM

I meant EVGA, considering other manufacturers seemingly didn't

DrNip

01-31-2011, 11:52 AM

Looks like I will be sitting idol for a while,

the Revolution has 2x 6GB Realtek controller as well

But mine is RMA'd as well, Installing XP for 6 hours and losing a win 7 partition last night was enough for me

plus 52x brick wall on my end

I still think your as well as come other guys here 52 multi limit is your cpu and not mobo. I could be wrong and hope I am for your guys benefit.

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 01:02 PM

yea prolly is my CPU, but with the other problems the board has it is easy to find fault.

Not sure what I am going to go with now, but the Ud7 is the only other 2x 16 slot board so far, it just squeezes the GPU's together ....

How can the M4E AKA Asus flagship not have 2 16x lanes ..... WTF

eVGA where are they with the Classy ?

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 02:05 PM

All 1155 boards have been deactivated at the egg ............ :ohcrap:

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 02:07 PM

It was said that all SB shipping is going to be stopped
Suggested that it wouldn't be resumed until late feb when the new boards are ready.

OC Maximus

01-31-2011, 02:09 PM

Here is a good article on the topic straight from the horse's mouth.

Intel Newsroom (http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/01/31/intel-identifies-chipset-design-error-implementing-solution)

The company expects to begin delivering the updated version of the chipset to customers in late February and expects full volume recovery in April. Intel stands behind its products and is committed to product quality. For computer makers and other Intel customers that have bought potentially affected chipsets or systems, Intel will work with its OEM partners to accept the return of the affected chipsets, and plans to support modifications or replacements needed on motherboards or systems.

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 02:10 PM

This ain't going to be cheap..... :blink:

Pocket change for Intel ............ :laughing:

GeorgeStorm

01-31-2011, 02:10 PM

Projected cost is $1 billion.
Read from bit-tech:
The $300m figure mentioned in the original press release is the revenue hit due to shutting down and restarting production. This has to be added to the estimate $700m cost of replacing the chips already out there (with manufacturers as well as consumers).

That revenue hit is only in this quarter but Intel don't expect the full year revenue to be affected too much! Jeez this company makes too much money!

$1 billion!

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=202742

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 02:22 PM

:scared:

OC Maximus

01-31-2011, 02:32 PM

:confused2:pullhair::rroulette::flaminmad:

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 02:50 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4143/the-source-of-intels-cougar-point-sata-bug

HITandRUN

01-31-2011, 05:46 PM

Looks like I got lucky since I didn't jump on SB right away. :thumbsup:

OC Maximus

01-31-2011, 06:36 PM

Honestly, this whole recall situation doesn't really affect those who planned on using SB as a benching platform and moving on. The rest, well it really sucks.

Witchdoctor

01-31-2011, 11:45 PM

Problem is the boards will have zero resale value .... so it is eat it or send it back ... :shock:

I wanted mine long term for a gamer, now will be waiting for a bit untill new boards are availible I guess ...

Hondacity

01-31-2011, 11:48 PM

kikicoco1334

02-01-2011, 12:16 AM

Looks like I got lucky since I didn't jump on SB right away. :thumbsup:
that makes you and i both bro!

MaadDaawg

02-01-2011, 04:10 AM

I posted somewhere yesterday how I couldn't find a ASUS MAX IV EXT anywhere on the web - actually, wasn't much of any SB boards on the web last night. Now we know why - ratbastards

Thank god I cancelled my ASUS order before the announcement ...... phwew

OC Maximus

02-01-2011, 05:35 AM

Problem is the boards will have zero resale value .... so it is eat it or send it back ... :shock:
Oh yeah, boards aren't worth 2 cents now, rma is indeed required.

Witchdoctor

02-01-2011, 05:44 AM

UPS is also going to make a killing on this ............. :laughing:

Chuchnit

02-01-2011, 06:22 AM

Bad Karma for f(l)ucking with bclocking?

On another note, is intel going to pay to recover the losses for the board manufacturers?

Chuchnit

02-01-2011, 06:27 AM

UPS is also going to make a killing on this ............. :laughing:

hmm.... 8 million chipsets sold, so 8 million boards to be shipped. Might not be a bad time to stock up on UPS stock this quarter....

Lets take an conservative average of $4 to ship each board. That's $32 million right there. Then take into account that most of these will be shipped two or more times. end user>manufacturer>end user. That doesn't include if the boards have to go to intel. So in theory that is $96 million in additional revenue for the shipping companies in a quarter. But you got to offset that by the decrease in revenue from the shipments that are halted now because manufacturing halted. Either way it will probably make a nice quarter for one of the shipping companies.

Witchdoctor

02-01-2011, 06:30 AM

egg is sending prepaid UPS lables out by the bushel :laughing:

Just another though, sould be a good quarter for the dudes that make those styrofoam balls as well

Chuchnit

02-01-2011, 09:19 AM

I was just wondering how big of a party AMD is throwing right now? Bulldozer will be out not much after SB is back on the market.

Witchdoctor

02-01-2011, 12:00 PM

lBSaZHttsXU

OC Maximus

02-01-2011, 12:26 PM

http://www.gigabyte.com/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=984

Witchdoctor

02-01-2011, 12:30 PM

Guess that means they will cross ship ?

GFDuke

02-02-2011, 01:21 AM

I guess i'll wait for the dust to settle on this before i try this platform. Whew dodged a bullet for once.

rickss69

02-02-2011, 03:13 AM

Pussy...:taunt:

Witchdoctor

02-02-2011, 03:31 AM

:rofl

GFDuke

02-02-2011, 11:29 AM

After binning 980x's, lightning.s, 480's and the such this would be a breeze. But i'm not up for the headaches.

Witchdoctor

02-02-2011, 11:49 AM

Z3m9bt63_HM

Kal-EL

02-02-2011, 11:57 AM

Z3m9bt63_HM
we call those "ukus" :taunt:

OC Maximus

02-04-2011, 11:02 AM

Witchdoctor

02-04-2011, 11:26 AM

Called Gigabyte today and they said no RMA.

You have to return your p67 to your retailer for a full refund. When the new boards come out in late April you can purchase another.

Again, no on RMA'ing your old board straight thru Gigabyte when the fixed boards are available since it's an actual Intel recall.

That is some serious bull shit, Intel did not sell that board. It was Gigabites chipset as soon as they purchased it from Intel.

I was looking close at a UD7 once the new ones came out.

I hope the Classy hits the streets when the rest do, gotta give it to eVGA they came out of this smelling like a rose since they were late to the party

Gigabite = Dicks !!!

OC Maximus

02-04-2011, 11:35 AM

That is some serious bull shit, Intel did not sell that board. It was Gigabites chipset as soon as they purchased it from Intel.

I was looking close at a UD7 once the new ones came out.

I hope the Classy hits the streets when the rest do, gotta give it to eVGA they came out of this smelling like a rose since they were late to the party

Gigabite = Dicks !!!

Yeah, it is major BS but it is what it is. I only use sata 0/1 since its a bencher but need it replaced anyway so its sellable in the future. What a P.I.T.A. :Dizzy:

Witchdoctor

02-04-2011, 11:47 AM

yyea the whole P67 express deal sucks ....

Hondacity

02-04-2011, 02:10 PM

if it sucks....don't buy it when it comes out april....:D

Witchdoctor

02-04-2011, 02:42 PM

if it sucks....don't buy it when it comes out april....:D

I hear ya Honda, but was refering to the situation not the platforms preformance.

I only had it for a week and TBH, it is an insane platform, just wish Intel would have gotten it right the first time

it sucks having to wait till April to play with it again

Splave

02-04-2011, 04:17 PM

wish I had a ud7 or ud5 or mive

Hondacity

02-04-2011, 04:49 PM

if they're scrapping the boards..we could prolly still get some...

if the intel chip will be replaced it will be a waiting game...

OC Maximus

02-04-2011, 06:26 PM

ebay has ud5's

rickss69

02-04-2011, 10:20 PM

Think I should hold on to the L042B215 and get rid of the mb or chuck them both?

OC Maximus

02-04-2011, 10:32 PM

Think I should hold on to the L042B215 and get rid of the mb or chuck them both?
anything wrong with your cpu?

Patch

02-04-2011, 11:24 PM

Just saw my email from newegg.

Mobo refund in process. :)

I already sold my measly 5.2ghz CPU prior to the recall, so this situation is working out great.

Never been able to try out a rig for so little net financial output before. :)

rickss69

02-04-2011, 11:36 PM

anything wrong with your cpu?

Other than I have never been able to exceed 5.3GHz, no. I have no clue if that was due to the cpu or the motherboard I was using it in.