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Splave
11-12-2010, 04:42 AM
Is there a way without wasting ln2?
Keeping track of use minus your dairly loss I guess is the best way beyond weighing it empty first.

Pretty sure they filled me up about half way today while I waited for it. It was way too light or I had testosterone shot in my coffee this morning :thumbdown:

RomDominance
11-12-2010, 05:06 AM
Without a scale or taking the extractor off and visually inspecting, your screwed dood. Man do I wish you lived out here. That would be one of a great many less probs you would have. The U of A cryogenics dept is awesome and .82/L ftw.

Splave
11-12-2010, 05:40 AM
thought so, shiat lol

hard to prove then. I will have to keep track of what I used. Dewar shouldnt loose more than half a liter per day new so....

Will be going with airgas as soon as im done commuting :D

rickss69
11-12-2010, 05:52 AM
I've seen guys quit after it starts splashing out the top, especially if dispensing at a high rate. The knowlegable one's will slow down the flow to get a complete fill.

DOM
11-12-2010, 05:58 AM
I put mine in a scale it was 35lbs empty when I filled it up was like 94lbs if I remember right, but im down to 64lbs. I think I used like 10-14L

Splave
11-12-2010, 06:17 AM
I've seen guys quit after it starts splashing out the top, especially if dispensing at a high rate. The knowlegable one's will slow down the flow to get a complete fill.

great thinking, mostly likely what this guy did :eek: wasnt the usual one

rickss69
11-12-2010, 06:27 AM
In my case I back up to the station with my truck and unload the dewar there...saves both of us from lugging it far. We both stand there and shoot the shit while it is filling.

Splave
11-12-2010, 07:47 AM
Mines got wheels ftw! :D and no more stairs. I usually drop it off in the morning then pick it up on my lunch.

MaadDaawg
11-12-2010, 08:12 AM
In my case I back up to the station with my truck and unload the dewar there...saves both of us from lugging it far. We both stand there and shoot the shit while it is filling.

Same thing I do.

In fact, that little turnbuckle screw thingy broke off of mine, so I have to use a rachet and socket to open and tighten down the collar. Since he doesn't want to deal with that I have the job of taking off and putting the dispenser and collar back on - birds eye view if he's trying to screw me :D PS. Quarter inch course thread nut fits the turnbuckle perfectly :thumbsup:

Yeah Splig, those dollys with wheels are cool, I still got stairs to deal with though

kikicoco1334
11-12-2010, 09:32 AM
I put mine in a scale it was 35lbs empty when I filled it up was like 94lbs if I remember right, but im down to 64lbs. I think I used like 10-14L

omg! that's GREAT thinking!
i monna do that when i go fuel next week or so :thumbsup:

RomDominance
11-12-2010, 06:57 PM
Also Splig its a good idea not to run them completely dry as that adds to extra equalization loss once filled when they are warm inside.

Patch
11-13-2010, 01:22 PM
Caps are better. I have to take the damn transfer device off every time I get that dewar filled. I know I'm getting it full, but it's a pita.

Biggest problem with a transfer device is you can't pour your unused juice back in the dewar without releasing pressure and removing the thing.

DrNip
11-14-2010, 04:12 AM
Also Splig its a good idea not to run them completely dry as that adds to extra equalization loss once filled when they are warm inside.

Great point. :thumbsup:

Splave
11-16-2010, 08:33 AM
unacceptable, used 15L last night and I maybe have 3-5L left in the bottom :( splave angry

DOM
11-16-2010, 09:09 AM
i filled it up today and its only 89lbs from 94lbs from the first time :Dizzy:

but fixed it wasnt having any pressure build up cuz the seal was dirty now im at 8-9psi :thumbsup:

kikicoco1334
11-16-2010, 09:58 AM
yay seal fixed!

i monna be fueling my dewar very soon!
i have a test tomorrow and 2 after tomorrow but i am hopping i can get out of class friday and get some ln2 then and bench a little during the weekend =D

how would i know if my dewar have a good seal or not? or how would anyone that dose not have a gage or anything like that?

i remember last year around thanksgiving i went fueled and used most of it, and had about 2L left in it, till like jan/feb ish that amount still in it wtf?

DOM
11-16-2010, 10:08 AM
yay seal fixed!

i monna be fueling my dewar very soon!
i have a test tomorrow and 2 after tomorrow but i am hopping i can get out of class friday and get some ln2 then and bench a little during the weekend =D

how would i know if my dewar have a good seal or not? or how would anyone that dose not have a gage or anything like that?

i remember last year around thanksgiving i went fueled and used most of it, and had about 2L left in it, till like jan/feb ish that amount still in it wtf?
if its been in there that long means you got a good seal ;)

OC Maximus
11-16-2010, 11:02 AM
If all goes well I should have a dewar before Christmas. Fingers crossed..........

OCM :thumbsup:

Splave
11-16-2010, 11:03 AM
I hate when they fill it so the BOV are frozen open and they scream....cold air keeps jetting out therefore more and more frost forms on them and they get worse and worse lol gotta heat the valves till they thaw and shut down