Mineral Oil Cooling goes Mainstream

[Kal-EL]

Someone finally went the extra mile and put together a production oil setup:

http://dl.maximumpc.com/galleries/hardcorepc/hardcorepc_01_full.jpg

http://dl.maximumpc.com/galleries/hardcorepc/hardcorepc_10_full.jpg

http://www.hardcorecomputers.com/Resources/Images/2175.jpg
http://www.hardcorecomputers.com/ (http://www.hardcorecomputers.com/)

[skarface]

Very interesting i went to there website and watched the video man someone had alot of time on there hands. Very neat altho i say we do something like this with your pc!!!:trophy:

[Kal-EL]

Very interesting i went to there website and watched the video man someone had alot of time on there hands. Very neat altho i say we do something like this with your pc!!!:trophy:

spfoam1 and I actually were talking about tryin this out but we couldnt figure out what the freezing point for mineral oil was, lol. I think if they could size it down to a smaller rectangle clear plexi glass case where you can place your monitor atop, it'd workout much better. Then you could custom etch designs into the plexi and utilize some cool LED lighting effects.

[DrNip]

I think this is a stupid idea and have since day one as the average overclocker pulls his hardware in and out constantly as well as have to clear the cmos a time or two. It does look cool but wouldn't and couldn't suit my needs.

[Chuchnit]

I think it is more for uber rich people that just wanna have something that nobody else does.

[skarface]

I think this is a stupid idea and have since day one as the average overclocker pulls his hardware in and out constantly as well as have to clear the cmos a time or two. It does look cool but wouldn't and couldn't suit my needs.

I agree for your use of a pc but for a gamer who might do slight ocing would be perfect for becuase very cool temps on ambient room temp. But yes that is a major draw back becuase once the item goes oil it never goes back from what i read about.

@ chucknit

LOL i personally am not rich but i know i have around 3-4g in my pc and thats the price range as this one! I much perfer the feeling of building something myself but lets face it to someone who knows jack about pcs and does alot of gaming isnt the worst idea. Sorta hard to mess that up its already in fluid.

Lets face it one time ago cars were only for rich people now everyone has one. I mean i built an area-51 pc by alien before dell baught them and that rig was like 6400 dollars and it was on water nothing as extreme as they have done here. Needless to say my wife poped a top when i told her that it was 6grand. Even came with like a briefe case pen and all kinds of other crap but didnt fly.

Who knows water is going mainstream im seeing more and more people doing it. You would think the next step would be oil or something of that nature. Maybe they will even come out with vid cards that are covered with some kind of coating except for the ram and gpu to keep it exposed to the oil and if one chooses to revert back to air will be possible.

[Chuchnit]

Well the thing about the oil is that once the temps start to climb, there is no mechanism to remove the heat. Water cooling has that advantage. I'm not saying it wouldn't be something almost cool to own, just impractical for most enthusiast. I'm sure the guy has sold plenty though.

[skarface]

Well the thing about the oil is that once the temps start to climb, there is no mechanism to remove the heat. Water cooling has that advantage. I'm not saying it wouldn't be something almost cool to own, just impractical for most enthusiast. I'm sure the guy has sold plenty though.


fight9

[hellcamino]

Well the thing about the oil is that once the temps start to climb, there is no mechanism to remove the heat. Water cooling has that advantage. I'm not saying it wouldn't be something almost cool to own, just impractical for most enthusiast. I'm sure the guy has sold plenty though.

I am planning on building a mineral oil cooled pc at some point, my plan was to immerse the pc but add a pump + radiator to circulate the oil outside the pc for additional cooling. The idea would be to exhaust the cooled oil back into the pc directly on to the hottest running parts.

[Chuchnit]

Now that I would like to see. What kind of container/case do you have in mind? Plus what are you gonna do about plumbing? Just have an inlet and outlet whole on the case? Oh yeah, what kinda pump will you need to pump thick ass oil?

[skarface]

Did u guys look at the video on this thing??? U know it has almost a car rad on the other side with a huge pump looks like 1.5-2 tubing pulling warm fluid from the top then sends it back to the vital hot parts and into the main bay with cooled oil? Ontop of that warm oil will always seperate from the colder oil and it will always rise to the top so there for the pump pulls from the top and sends back to the bottom and hot spots. Thats what all the clear tubing is to the cpu and cards. Its not just a mobo in a tank of fluid.

[hellcamino]

I saw how it's setup and unless it has a monster of a pump I am guessing that the flow is too low in that system to sustain much of an overclock. The reason would be the cooling blocks themselves creating too much restriction.

[skarface]

I saw how it's setup and unless it has a monster of a pump I am guessing that the flow is too low in that system to sustain much of an overclock. The reason would be the cooling blocks themselves creating too much restriction.

From what i can tell it doesnt even look like an actual block more like a cup of some sort to house the cool fluid coming in.

[Russianhaxor]

Well the thing about the oil is that once the temps start to climb, there is no mechanism to remove the heat. Water cooling has that advantage. I'm not saying it wouldn't be something almost cool to own, just impractical for most enthusiast. I'm sure the guy has sold plenty though.

As far as i know there are radiators for both the oil AND the waterblocks.

[skarface]

As far as i know there are radiators for both the oil AND the waterblocks.

Those are not water blocks at all. The blocks are dome shaped sorta say to house the colder fluid. The colder oil coming from the rad blows over the chips and back into the main bay keeping a continous flow of colder fluid over the chips or hot spots "gpus, cpu, nb, sb". There is only one rad and its pretty large if you watch the video they have on the website its very interesting. Someone put alot of time and thought into this it even has x ring seals to help prevent leakage.

[Russianhaxor]

Doesnt that radiator serve all of the fluids, not just the colder fluid?

[skarface]

Doesnt that radiator serve all of the fluids, not just the colder fluid?

Yes, but what i meant by the colder fluid was its after its has passed through the rad and is returned. They made a custome pipe with a crap load of fittings returning the fluid to the hot spots!

[Kal-EL]

Yes, but what i meant by the colder fluid was its after its has passed through the rad and is returned. They made a custome pipe with a crap load of fittings returning the fluid to the hot spots!

They should add a hand dispenser from the reservoir for those late lonely nights at pornhub.com :eek:

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[skarface]

They should add a hand dispenser from the reservoir for those late lonely nights at pornhub.com :eek:

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


lol good one:trophy:

[Russianhaxor]

I would have rather seen a triple rad at the top exhausting for the blocks on the gpu and CPU and then that massive radiator for the rest of the oil.

[hellcamino]

Those are not water blocks at all. The blocks are dome shaped sorta say to house the colder fluid. The colder oil coming from the rad blows over the chips and back into the main bay keeping a continous flow of colder fluid over the chips or hot spots "gpus, cpu, nb, sb". There is only one rad and its pretty large if you watch the video they have on the website its very interesting. Someone put alot of time and thought into this it even has x ring seals to help prevent leakage.


I gotta pull out the dick card and inquire as to your source there, they certainly look like cooling blocks and I haven't seen any real documentation on how their system works yet. If they aren't blocks then what is the point of the return lines from them?

[skarface]

I gotta pull out the dick card and inquire as to your source there, they certainly look like cooling blocks and I haven't seen any real documentation on how their system works yet. If they aren't blocks then what is the point of the return lines from them?

Dang man y the attack and bad language?? Its just general talk and if u look at the vid and look at the 280 with the block thing on it doesnt really apear to be a block thats all i was saying! Its not an inclosed block with two holes in and out. Its got a big opening sending the oil out so it apears that way. I can search it more tho to be sure but ill put my dickcard in my dickwallet!fight8
:rofl:rofl

[Kal-EL]

Dang man y the attack and bad language?? Its just general talk and if u look at the vid and look at the 280 with the block thing on it doesnt really apear to be a block thats all i was saying! Its not an inclosed block with two holes in and out. Its got a big opening sending the oil out so it apears that way. I can search it more tho to be sure but ill put my dickcard in my dickwallet!fight8
:rofl:rofl

Dick Cards should only be placed into V-Wallets. :D

[skarface]

Dick Cards should only be placed into V-Wallets. :D

Nope i have a mushroom shaped wallet and thats where it is going!:flip::rofl

[Kal-EL]

Nope i have a mushroom shaped wallet and thats where it is going!:flip::rofl

Hey, if he doesnt mind, I won't judge. :rolleyes:

[skarface]

Hey, if he doesnt mind, I won't judge. :rolleyes:

Yea i wouldnt hand those out i would hand out clam cards!

[hellcamino]

Ok after watching the video I will conclude that the chipsets are all cooled using a cup over a heatsink but the gpu's appear to be some type of block and the cpu block was never shown that I saw.

Tyan motherboard means the quality should be very good but I have my doubts on any overclocking.

I did notice that they were using D5 pumps and that is an excellent example of a cheap pump that can handle pumping the mineral oil, I will likely use the same thing.

All things considered, I would never pay that amount of $$$ for a pc like that but I would build my own.

[Kal-EL]

:whacky:

[Komadyret]

First time I came across a submerged computer it was at http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php.

Tey even has done some testing, and a short build log. Follow the link for some numbers. It's not impressive, but imensely cool to look at. I've dabbled with the thought of doing a project like this, but have put it on hold indefinately. Also there are other homebrew systems around if you search youtube :)

[skarface]

Ok after watching the video I will conclude that the chipsets are all cooled using a cup over a heatsink but the gpu's appear to be some type of block and the cpu block was never shown that I saw.

Tyan motherboard means the quality should be very good but I have my doubts on any overclocking.

I did notice that they were using D5 pumps and that is an excellent example of a cheap pump that can handle pumping the mineral oil, I will likely use the same thing.

All things considered, I would never pay that amount of $$$ for a pc like that but I would build my own.

:Dfight10 lol whats that ip again for w@w ill let u kill me some if that makes u feel better!

[spfoam1]

:Dfight10 lol whats that ip again for w@w ill let u kill me some if that makes u feel better!

LMAO......perfect use of the shit hits the fan smilie

[DrNip]

Hahaha!!!

[hellcamino]

IP Address:
216.224.123.15
Port:
29460

Bring it!

[skarface]

IP Address:
216.224.123.15
Port:
29460

Bring it!

I didnt really check the forum out over the weekend so i never saw the posts or i would have gotten on. Ill get on tonight for a min or 2 and if i dont see u ill log back on later.

<B.C.G> skarface

[MaadDaawg]

Why not just replace the coolant in a water cooled rig with mineral oli? Wouldn't that solve both problems? Thing is, I don't know the temp exchange rates between water and mineral oil - may be better off keeping the water flowing ???

[Neuromancer]

Not to strir up the water/oil cooling thing again, but I could have sworn when this first came out (last year I believe) that it uses both water and air cooling.

IF they are actually using blocks for circulating the oil... I would think that would kind of defeat the purpose TBH...

I could definitely see putting some type of fan over the naked chips for sure..

Also the performance of the rig is ~ twice as bad as air cooling. The whole rig stays the same temperature though, and it actually OCed pretty decently despite running so warm. Something to be considered there I suppose.


Course this is all from memory, I am far to lazy to click a link and my internet is too slow to watch videos right now.

[giorgioprimo]

IMHO is interesing, but they shouldhave suggested a different kind of hardware .
Should be nice to have the chance to buy the the enclosure with cooling system and power supply, so you can build your own machine with your specification :)

[youngpro]

its interesting but its a bit stupid for mainstream? imagine the RMA department for these kind of machines!