View Full Version : What to put on LN2 first ? 1st timer here......
Well going to take the dewar tomorrow to get filled and should get cpu pot mon/tuesday
So im stuck on what to do first :blush:
Heres what i got.....
980X/R3E
E8500/GA-EP45-UD3P
352/ASUS P5B Deluxe/Modded
Splave
11-07-2010, 07:45 PM
980x r3e nothing better :D
im kind of scared if i kill something :Dizzy:
sofos1990
11-07-2010, 07:51 PM
The first setup is all about efficiency and many global boints :p
The second one seems ( to me at least ) boring and the last one is all about fun :D
I would go with the first .
Hondacity
11-07-2010, 08:24 PM
2nd one....mastery of pot is good exp...
im guessing e8500 will cb @ -120c ....is that e0?
Neuromancer
11-07-2010, 09:20 PM
First time is all about going woo hoo
2nd and following times are all about getting the most boints :)
Take the cheap setup first. Learn it live it love it.
LN2 is hard, if you do it once, and cant do it again you just dont want to bench anymore. Something I know from experience.
yeah i was thinking of the cheap one first cuz idk what im doing and i wont be to mad if i kill it :D
but its like $38 to get it filled and not going to do it every week wife wouldnt like that, just droped her off at work she was your just taking me so you can go fill your stupid tank :laughing:
also we might find out if where having another girl or a boy today :ohcrap:
DrNip
11-08-2010, 02:18 AM
Just have all boards prepped in case one or two setups don't jive. Always have a backup plan. One doesn't work, torch the pot to heat it up, take it off and stick it in the oven for a few minutes to thaw it out. :S
are you talking about the pot or mb :P
im going to use eraser since i have nothing else but you need to put more around the socket area then like i used on the ss right ?
and idk if i wanna wait till the weekend or do it tomorrow, cuz is this something safe i can do inside or be better in the garage ?
352/ASUS P5B Deluxe/Modded
just droped it off :) now just have to wait for the pot.....
DrNip
11-08-2010, 05:44 AM
are you talking about the pot or mb :P
im going to use eraser since i have nothing else but you need to put more around the socket area then like i used on the ss right ?
and idk if i wanna wait till the weekend or do it tomorrow, cuz is this something safe i can do inside or be better in the garage ?
The pot. If one platform doesn't behave or just not getting you anywhere then heat the pot up with the torch enough to get it free from the socket. Turn your oven to the lowest temp and bake your pot for about 15 minutes or so. You can bake the foam insulation and all. Then when it is all thawed out mount it to another platform and try it. I would just hate to see you put all your eggs in one basket and it not work for you. That is why I said prep all your mobos in case one doesn't work for ya.
Make sure you do plenty of insulating with your eraser. LN2 gets way colder therefore freezing more parts of your mobo. I would insulate from your 1st RAM socket to your mosfets and from the top of the mobo to the north bridge at least. Stuff a blue paper towel in your 1st RAM socket as well if it isn't being used. Don't forget to insulate the back of your mobo as well with eraser. Do a good area of it.
I'm at work but when I get home I will post up a pick of my insulation job I use for LN2 as well as my bench table setup with the full sheet of foam insulation on the back of the mobo.
Hondacity
11-08-2010, 07:05 AM
no need to bake the pot...just torch it to 50C...and yeah gloves :D
MaadDaawg
11-08-2010, 07:17 AM
Gloves smoves... we don't need no fuckin gloves :rofl: Well honestly, I do when pouring :blush:
The Dr was kind enuf to refer to the insulation, but nowhere in the thread is any insulation discussed other than the eraser, which is fine for SS but not for LN2.
You also need shop towels (lay over the eraser) = cut them like gaskets
Closed cell (?) foam Gasket for around socket (same stuff you put around the pot.
If you bought you pot from Kingpin you'll get enuf of this stuff to start.
Kinpins website has an excellent LN2 insulation guide in their help area
Go for it Bro
(safety goggles might not hurt either)
And... a trigger activated propane torch to pull down the pot occassionally
GO BRO
Hondacity
11-08-2010, 07:28 AM
here's some facts:
1. 1Liter of nitrogen = 694 liters of nitrogen gas
2. nitrogen is heavier than oxygen. babies might get deprived of O2 if they're in the room..you standing might be ok..but babies on the floor might not be.
3. the garage is for parties.
DrNip
11-08-2010, 08:03 AM
Garages are cool when it is cool outside, not when its hot. If you do it inside just open a window or two. Keep kids a way as a precautionary measure.
MaadDaawg
11-08-2010, 09:41 AM
Kids and pets. If hot outside, fans in the window, if cold outside fans in the window. If hot or cold outside A/C is preferable in the window :P
just IMO :rofl:
Its a Used F1EE
Should get it today but usps is running really late :morpheus:
they just got here time for work :thumbdown:
i didnt take pics but its the same pot
http://img.techpowerup.org/101103/df11a.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/101103/df11b.jpg
kikicoco1334
11-08-2010, 02:14 PM
F1EE Brothers!
DrNip
11-08-2010, 04:40 PM
As promised here is my little setup.
Here is what is left of my Hi Speed PC tech station.
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I have drilled various holes for various platforms. I hammered mobo standoffs into the holes.
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I have a full mobo length sheet of closed cell foam or whatever it is called.
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Use plenty of eraser on both the front and back of mobo. Like I said I use it from the 1st RAM socket to the mosfets and from the top of the mobo to the north bridge. On the back side I would at least do it where the socket is if not from the 1st RAM socket to the mosfets and from the top of the mobo to the north bridge. Try to stuff a blue shop towel in the 1st RAM socket.
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A 1/2" and a 1/4" works perfect for in-between the pot and socket.
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Underneath the foam pieces you will need some blue shop towels, which I don't enough of at the moment or else I would use it. I cut it to the same size as the foam piece in pic.
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Mount pot and then I fold two blue shop towels in half and wrap the pot holding them on with two rubber bands.
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That is how I do it now but I am sure it will be tweaked, twisted and change of the course of my overclocking career as I am always looking for bigger and better ways of doing things. Really thinking of going the vaseline route as I am tired of eraser. Hope this helps.
Hondacity
11-08-2010, 04:50 PM
wow thats an article in itself!
Fosterin the Fever!
awesome stuff
thanks a buck drnip nice setup you got going ;)
im thinking of using vaseline on the p5b dlx cuz the r3e is also my main rig so thats a reason i dont wanna be there trying to clean that stuff off
but where do they sell that black foam stuff at anyways ? any local places lowes home depot ??
DrNip
11-08-2010, 04:58 PM
Graingers. My Lowes and Home Depot don't. You should have a Graingers somewhere close to you or at least I hope so.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/KFLEX-USA-Insulation-Sheet-3F414?Pid=search
Hondacity
11-08-2010, 05:01 PM
we have grainger..its like 30minutes away..
DrNip
11-08-2010, 05:02 PM
They are pretty cheap on the stuff you need especially if you have one locally and can avoid shipping cost.
Neuromancer
11-08-2010, 05:05 PM
Graingers. My Lowes and Home Depot don't. You should have a Graingers somewhere close to you or at least I hope so.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/KFLEX-USA-Insulation-Sheet-3F414?Pid=search
There are other alternatives as well.
McMaster Carr
Neoprene work?
http://www.closedcellfoams.com/neoprene.html
DrNip
11-08-2010, 05:08 PM
Some neoprene can work as I have had some that worked just fine but the last stuff I bought turned out to be too hard. I am sure I bought the wrong stuff. I know the link that I posted is right up the alley that you want.
theres one in town but idk about that 4ft lol
Patch
11-08-2010, 05:34 PM
My Home Depot and Lowes are useless. Orchard Supply Hardware opened up here about a year ago and they have a pretty good selection of neoprene.
Bad news the p5b doesnt wanna boot reason unknown
but benched the gig e8500 :D
didnt get super pi 32m to run :P to damn tired :shock:
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076392_dom._wprime_32m_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_12sec _922ms
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076391_dom._superpi_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_8sec_16m s
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076388_dom._cpu_z_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_5932.2_mhz
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076395_dom._wprime_1024m_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_7mi n_1sec_890ms
GeorgeStorm
11-10-2010, 12:13 AM
Some nice scores! :D
No troubles at all? (apart from the p5b not booting)
DrNip
11-10-2010, 01:12 AM
Nice!
Some nice scores! :D
No troubles at all? (apart from the p5b not booting)
oh yeah CBB sucks -60-70c need to start pouring right when it booted to make it in to windows, and didnt think about setfsb which i used for cpu-z, ocgmj was on messager so he found it for me :thumbsup:
Nice!
thanks :D
Chuchnit
11-10-2010, 04:21 AM
Way to go Dom!! Nice temp meter too. How much did you score that for?
Way to go Dom!! Nice temp meter too. How much did you score that for?$99 on ebay
Splave
11-10-2010, 04:35 AM
nice job dom :) nice to see you getting serious man
i also had to tip the dewar wasnt coming out fast enough then it would stop :Dizzy:
im still half asleep went to bed like at 4am kids woke me up :(
Hondacity
11-10-2010, 05:46 AM
dom is destined for this :D
wooo amazing runs bro
ocgmj
11-10-2010, 07:01 AM
Nice first LN2 run buddy.
DrNip
11-10-2010, 08:58 AM
i also had to tip the dewar wasnt coming out fast enough then it would stop :Dizzy:
im still half asleep went to bed like at 4am kids woke me up :(
Like I said, dump the top and pour it. ;)
i would but would like it to work cuz im lazy lol
but even the psi gage isnt work :P
kikicoco1334
11-10-2010, 06:21 PM
Bad news the p5b doesnt wanna boot reason unknown
but benched the gig e8500 :D
didnt get super pi 32m to run :P to damn tired :shock:
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076392_dom._wprime_32m_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_12sec _922ms
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076391_dom._superpi_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_8sec_16m s
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076388_dom._cpu_z_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_5932.2_mhz
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1076395_dom._wprime_1024m_core_2_e8500_3.17ghz_7mi n_1sec_890ms
cb! :thumbsup:
i am not pro but i'd drop one of those pci post error card on it so you know what the hell is going on 24/7
at least that's how i do it... but like i said i ain't pro =)
to bench or not to bench :P
i know i shouldnt just had 4hrs of sleep and went to work late cuz i feel asleep and didnt hear th alarm lol
but might do a new os install was running on my 980x 3d install :D
kikicoco1334
11-10-2010, 06:42 PM
to bench or not to bench :P
i know i shouldnt just had 4hrs of sleep and went to work late cuz i feel asleep and didnt hear th alarm lol
but might do a new os install was running on my 980x 3d install :D
you and i both bro!
sometimes i'll be benching overnight and end up passing out and not going to the first 2 classes :rofl
but can't help it!
overclocking is like drugs for me lol just can't out of it
thebanik
11-10-2010, 07:14 PM
Amazing scores Dom, time to put that 980X under LN2 now, :)
you and i both bro!
sometimes i'll be benching overnight and end up passing out and not going to the first 2 classes :rofl
but can't help it!
overclocking is like drugs for me lol just can't out of iti went ot bed early 12am but going to install a os in a bit
Amazing scores Dom, time to put that 980X under LN2 now, :)thanks
yeah i was happy with my insulation job, but was surprised i didnt have any condensation on the back in the pic is how i had it just on the towels
kikicoco1334
11-11-2010, 05:37 AM
Amazing scores Dom, time to put that 980X under LN2 now, :)
indeed!
OC Maximus
11-11-2010, 09:09 AM
Nice work Dom.
OCM :thumbsup:
Thanks OCM
The P5B Deluxe LIVES so now i can go for some 7+GHz :leghump:
kikicoco1334
11-11-2010, 10:00 AM
you and i both bro!
OC Maximus
11-11-2010, 10:30 AM
I need some celerons :)
OCM :thumbsup:
okay got more juice.....
what to do hmmmm....
DrNip
11-16-2010, 03:49 PM
Get a 7ghz under your belt?
MaadDaawg
11-16-2010, 04:08 PM
Nice start DOM :) Only potential problem is once you go LN2 you can never go back :P
Something else that works good for insulation (I use it under the board and also to cover up any unused pcie slots is...... Frost KIng, the big 12in wide one and THAT you can get at Home Depot (about $20 a roll). only thing is it's a PITA peeling all the aluminum off, but it does do the job. Also use that for the back of cards etc..
for the most part, my setup looks pretty similar to the Dr's
Do that 980 boy :D
Hondacity
11-16-2010, 04:28 PM
hmmm? we wanna see more points :D
Get a 7ghz under your belt?
was thinking at also but have to take the wife tomorrow to the doc :( was going to try in the moring lol
Nice start DOM :) Only potential problem is once you go LN2 you can never go back :P
Something else that works good for insulation (I use it under the board and also to cover up any unused pcie slots is...... Frost KIng, the big 12in wide one and THAT you can get at Home Depot (about $20 a roll). only thing is it's a PITA peeling all the aluminum off, but it does do the job. Also use that for the back of cards etc..
for the most part, my setup looks pretty similar to the Dr's
Do that 980 boy :D
i wann but scared to kill it since there so easy to kill or degrade
hmmm? we wanna see more points :D
i wanna see some to :P
Hondacity
11-16-2010, 07:27 PM
oh lord..is she delayed? 4th microhuman coming?
no, on the 3rd and im taking off friday so might hook up the 980 and do some 3d
also going to do turkey day on sat cuz where going down to the fam for turkey day next week so going to gain 10-20lbs by dec :laugh:
well pos p5b is acting up again wont boot even to the bios
just powers up for a sec then off then on... end less cycle i was going to shoot for 7+ghz tonight :'(