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ny_driver
09-26-2010, 10:09 AM
I have the F1EE and my board is well insulated. What else MUST I get for this to go properly?
I'll be able to read up about how to pour the LN2 and stuff during the week and am definitely open to any suggested reading material.
Thanks!
Hondacity
09-26-2010, 10:27 AM
many people don't teach this....but you must learn the "glaze" method....numero uno technique.... and of course bernzomatic yellow tank with ts8000 top....and paper towels+ rubber bands.... make sure motherboard backside is sealed or insulated...
kikicoco1334
09-26-2010, 10:36 AM
I have the F1EE and my board is well insulated. What else MUST I get for this to go properly?
I'll be able to read up about how to pour the LN2 and stuff during the week and am definitely open to any suggested reading material.
Thanks!
i'll play with dice first cuz you don't wanna wast the LN2 $$$
here is a really good video about LN2 \
just give you an idea from there and on that's really up to you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnU6DKu5l9M
my first pot was a Thermaltake BlueOrb that i still use as a 478 CPU fan with zipties
so i really don't have any room to talk... (yeah yeah i know what the hell is wrong with this dude...)
A LOTTA THINGS!
Dentlord
09-26-2010, 10:53 AM
You MUST have a k-type temp probe and meter so you can watch temps... Extech EA10 is a favorite temp meter.
Any vaccuum insulated coffee carafe or pitcher will work for pouring. You can get them at wal-mart or target etc...
The "Glaze" technique Honda mentioned helps speed up temp drop immensely, here is how I do it...
1. Pour the pot down to ~ -75c
2. Torch the inside, focusing on the holes, until its solid white (usually 10-15 seconds or so)
3.Resume pouring and watch the temps fly :)
ny_driver
09-26-2010, 11:13 AM
Torch it...like with a torch? The center of the pot?
I have a k-type, but a cheapo so I don't know how far it will read to. Specs say -50 C only.
I also have a nice insulated carafe from the previous coffee pot.
...ohh and a propane torch for soldering pipes etc...will that work?
Dentlord
09-26-2010, 11:20 AM
Propane will work but its slower than mapp
Yeah torch the inside of the pot to glaze it. It will turn white as a layer of moisture hard-freezes on the copper.
ny_driver
09-26-2010, 11:24 AM
OK so like 30 seconds or so then?
How long does it take to get down to -192 or whatever max temp is?
Hondacity
09-26-2010, 11:29 AM
don't waste ln2....
first rule: check cold bug....see if the cpu likes cold.....thats why the thermometer with a k type thermoucouple is a requiem...
cold bug changes with different reasons: vcore/qpi/thermalinterface/motherboard/cpu_batch
ny_driver
09-26-2010, 11:40 AM
So I have to bite the bullet and buy a good k-type thermometer that goes all the way to -200 C.
Heh.....if I pour it in there and after awhile it stops running, I guess it doesn't like the cold.
Hondacity
09-26-2010, 11:43 AM
term: cold bug you got it.
lots of el cheapo thermometers....if you have a good pot already....getting a good thermometer is the only way....
RomDominance
09-26-2010, 12:02 PM
Hey NY i have a new b batch 980x coming on thursday (hopefully). I would be more than happy to livestream the whole process for you from start to finish. I will be checking the chip for cb cbb and efficiency and can show you all of the processes and parts you will need. lmk if you can be on thursday night and we will get you goin like a pro in no time.
ny_driver
09-26-2010, 12:10 PM
Hey NY i have a new b batch 980x coming on thursday (hopefully). I would be more than happy to livestream the whole process for you from start to finish. I will be checking the chip for cb cbb and efficiency and can show you all of the processes and parts you will need. lmk if you can be on thursday night and we will get you goin like a pro in no time.
Cool that sounds great. Thanks a lot. If I must work Friday, then I'll be able to watch Thursday night from the hotel. If not then I'll be riding in the car, but I could watch on my Droid I bet. Lets set it up......that sounds awesome. :thumbsup:
Patch
09-26-2010, 02:06 PM
Good luck! You're gonna have a blast. Now you'll never be able to go back.....
Have to chime in with the other guys: Thermometer is an absolute MUST. You need to know where you're cold bugging.
And try to get a mini 3 inch iron anvil to have near you when you bench. I usually get an extra 100 mhz out of my clocks when I do. Sounds crazy, but it makes more sense than glazing your pot. ;)
ny_driver
09-26-2010, 02:17 PM
I guess I'll wait and buy an Extech EA10 this weekend, unless anyone knows of a cheaper comparable substitute?
EDIT: it sounds like the actual probes are not even rated for anywhere near -200.
OC Maximus
09-26-2010, 10:14 PM
I feel you pain. Working on getting a good thermometer myself.
Kal-EL
09-26-2010, 11:24 PM
I guess I'll wait and buy an Extech EA10 this weekend, unless anyone knows of a cheaper comparable substitute?
EDIT: it sounds like the actual probes are not even rated for anywhere near -200.
Check ebay bro, sometimes they got good quality units for cheap. You kinda don't wanna skimp on the temp reader as "False" temps will drive you completely MAD! :Dizzy:
RomDominance
09-27-2010, 04:59 AM
This is the best place on this lousy planet to purchase thermos imo....GL
Link (http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/extech/thermometers/ea10.htm)
PS. I have two EA 10's to bounce readings back and forth as I always have low cb's on my chips (Imperial curse). I am thinkin bout upgrading to a fluke...anyone interested in one lmk pm style.