Anticipated HWBOT Rev. 4 changes

[Kal-EL]

http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10842

[Chuchnit]

Wow, just wow. No comment cause its been said before....

[Splave]

does anyone get whats changing? do you need a pHd for this shit now or what, feels like the US government with all these new laws and shit

[Splave]

lol nice chew just accused us of hw sharing

[Mr.Scott]

Perfect. I have a feeling that this will be the final nail in my teams coffin.:thumbdown:

[Splave]

why do they think manufacturers are going to be all over this? I dont think that they really care in all honesty about it.

Screw it mr.scott I think what you guys do is epic regardless of your point standings. Who knows rev5 you guys might be dominating rofl.

[Mr.Scott]

We appreciate that Al. We have a "nitch market" in what we do. We know we'll never be big, but that was never our goal. We simply wanted to show that you can still hang with the big dogs on multi generation old hardware if you know what you're doing. We pretty much accomplished that, yet, I still feel the need to bench. I just like to do it, and this is the only game in town to post for comparison.

[MaadDaawg]

BOYCOTT THE BOT
BOYCOTT THE BOT
etc

[Neuromancer]

rev5 no more teams.... each CPU you bench is its own team

[FACE]

divide and conquer?

Maybe they are wanting to do away with teams all together and make it a huge rat-race to the top, leaving only the manuf. sponsored teams. Sure looks that way sometimes.

..oh well, head down, still benching like I want to, eff them... eff them in the aye.... rofl

[MaadDaawg]

Either that, or we all buy the top of the line hardware, and ship it off to whoever is hottest on the team at the moment. That one person could bin CPUs and GPUs and grab all the points. Then we would all get our original stuff back and put it up for sale :D

See there's a silver lining under each dark cloud - YEAH!!!

[Neuromancer]

How many manufacturers just started teams anyway? I know ASUS just did...

This looks like a way to milk them for money and in return put them atop the bot with ease.

[FACE]

How many manufacturers just started teams anyway? I know ASUS just did...

This looks like a way to milk them for money and in return put them atop the bot with ease.

...yup. Looks like we do not market well enough for the manufacturers...

[Neuromancer]

I posted over dere.

I say it here too... 3 months after rev 4 is instituted number of teams will jump 4-5X.

[karmakazi]

im rather shocked and dismayed over this whole scenario. im not at all sure what their objective is and how this revision will bring them close to that objective. if rev4 goes ahead like this, and im dead serious, we need to organize another online competition site

[RomDominance]

I think that creating a less convoluted sanctioning body is definitely in order.

Thanks to my fed ally for his support of my viewpoint over there:thumbsup:

[FACE]

I think that creating a less convoluted sanctioning body is definitely in order.

Thanks to my fed ally for his support of my viewpoint over there:thumbsup:

YAY!

[thebanik]

I think that creating a less convoluted sanctioning body is definitely in order.

Thanks to my fed ally for his support of my viewpoint over there:thumbsup:

+1, we need steponz here, :)

[Mr.Scott]

I think that creating a less convoluted sanctioning body is definitely in order.

Thanks to my fed ally for his support of my viewpoint over there:thumbsup:
We share similiar views Rommy. Continue to read there. I kinda put him on the spot.

[rickss69]

Seems to be boiling down to a pure money thing in my eyes.

[Mr.Scott]

Seems to be boiling down to a pure money thing in my eyes.
You hit the nail on the head man.

[rickss69]

Upcoming conclusion...Massman really is a piss ant....

[rickss69]

I see a smaller, more European bot emerging....

[GFDuke]

Oh God this is not good. WTF are they thinking? I guess its all about the money. Crap.

[rickss69]

When I mentioned pay to play option you could hear crickets chirping lol...:taunt:

[GFDuke]

Like i said. It's getting to be like kiddie baseball over there. No winner and no loser. Hell might as well lets us share team members while we're at it to even things up a bit more.

[rickss69]

Thunder rolling in the distance...;)

[Kal-EL]

Who knows whats really going on over there, just remember that this is a proposed change due out in 2011. For all intents and purposes it could be complete rubbish and some perverted wacked out form of European Propoganda to draw interest from their membership.

Do keep a class act up tho guys, if the bot goes teh way fo the DohDoh bird, we'll band together to get a new venue sorted adn we will always have the forums.

[rickss69]

Decisions have already been made Kal...I just can't resist the opportunity to poke Mass in the eye with sharp pointy objects sometimes. :taunt:

[ocgmj]

Just wanted to point out there still is a contest going on here with time remaining.... :)

[DrNip]

I can't call it and not going to try. I read a few post but said f it because what it is is what it is. Nothing I can do. I either play or don't play. Until something better comes along I have to play. LOL at Chew*'s remarks!!! Looks like he is still salty OCA zoomed by his team. :green3:

[Kal-EL]

I can't call it and not going to try. I read a few post but said f it because what it is is what it is. Nothing I can do. I either play or don't play. Until something better comes along I have to play. LOL at Chew*'s remarks!!! Looks like he is still salty OCA zoomed by his team. :green3:
Yah, I think he still buys the notion that we all shared a bunch of 5870's a while back. It's not even worth a rebutal. I'm sure people are gonna look at all the xeon chips we've been buying and think the same thing as well. Regardless, I won't be goated into another debate over it.

@ the whole Hwbot Rev 4. thing. Bummer. :thumbdown:

[DrNip]

I have a few choice words I could say but have to keep it clean and professional, well somewhat professional. ;)

[Kal-EL]

I have a few choice words I could say but have to keep it clean and professional, well somewhat professional. ;)

I'll be holding my words till the right time, if that time every avails itself.

[Patch]

Looks dumb.

Wish they would stop trying to respond to the bitchers. Fact is, people always complain.

Remember the argument that they can't possibly police ES hardware, so why bother?

These different categories with varying levels of support and cooling. Oh..my...gawd. The policing nightmare they're opening is frightening.

[Kal-EL]

On the upside, maybe this will totally kill hwbot participation completely and force them to actually listen with two ears to the Overclocking Community for once.

Or

Maybe someone will get motivated to create a new online overclocking venue with bigger bells and whistles.

[rickss69]

^ ;)

[MaadDaawg]

:rofl:

http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=71181&postcount=47

[Neuromancer]

Who said romulans are not as smart as Vulcans? Not me for sure.

Dude, your post was the most insightful and level headed I saw about the changes, on the first couple of pages (not going to sift through the other 8 pages that popped up while I was gone).

Well spoken and played sir:Hi:

EDIT: I am totally against the change as only the top guys will get to compete anymore, everyone else is nothing.

This is going to make people have teams but submit as individuals or small teams of 2-4 members. JM2C

[FACE]

somebody stop me, I fell into a chew* troll trap.... and I'm feeling saucy.

[GFDuke]

Unfrtunately this is a public thread and i can't say EXACTLY what i want to do the the dip shit.

[Kal-EL]

somebody stop me, I fell into a chew* troll trap.... and I'm feeling saucy.
Nooob #1
Unfrtunately this is a public thread and i can't say EXACTLY what i want to do the the dip shit.
Noob #2


Both suckered into a chewfest :Dizzy: guess you could say you got Chew*rolled :taunt:

[Splave]

didnt you know its spelled chroll now? rofl

[Kal-EL]

didnt you know its spelled chroll now? rofl

:scared:

[FACE]

Nooob #1

Noob #2


Both suckered into a chewfest :Dizzy: guess you could say you got Chew*rolled :taunt:

neva gonna give-neva gonna give (give-you-up)...


neva gonna give-neva gonna give (give-you-up)...

:blush:

[Splave]

enough over there though guys

[DrNip]

I share hardware everyday. Everyday with chews mom. :splits:

[GFDuke]

I was just proving a point. I never said i wanted a confrontation. All i said was i can't wait for CES. I'n the same manner he accused us of hardware sharing. He turned my statement into that. It was simply to prove a point.


Nooob#2

[kikicoco1334]

why the hell are they changing so much?

really... i still like the old bot more the 1.*

[FACE]

I share hardware everyday. Everyday with chews mom. :splits:

You too?! I was wondering why it was already warm when I got there.... :laughing:

[Kal-EL]

Alright rejects, simmer your slammer comments. Everyone should be well rested by now and wearing thicker skins than yesterday. If you wanna make crude, unruly and retarded comments, do so in private where words can fade into the distance.

I'm no angel but we shouldnt be rambling off like un-composed village idiots, lets show at least some measure of self control over our emotional impulses. Weve been thru alot of shit, our skins should be pretty thick by now.

seriously :keeporder:

[MaadDaawg]

I'd like to know why no one shared this primo hardware with me dammit ?? Could it be..... my breath :ohcrap:

[thebanik]

Sorry didnt see this thread, though I guess my reply was pretty civilized, :P

And yeah me too pretty pissed that you guyz have not given me access to the deepest of vault. From where I can pick those pretty processors and cards.

[rickss69]

:lameass: Massman starts the fucking poll and ends it with this...

[DrNip]

Yeah massman is beyond on my nerves after the HWBOT Rev.4 thread.

[rickss69]

This is just an extension of the same. It has always been my firm belief that something for nothing is worth just that...nothing.

I am willing to invest money to knock these turd monkeys completely out of existance and have a proper site to post our results.

[ReverendMaynard]

those hwbot guys are all over the place.

[kikicoco1334]

:thumbdown:

[DrNip]

Guess they pulled the plug! ROFL

3425

[rickss69]

Asserting their godliness...:rofl

[Mr.Scott]

Asserting their godliness...:rofl
Took their ball and went home, is more like it.
What a juvenile attitude.

[Splave]

could be a couple things ;)
1.Name change to msibot.org
2.They decided to implement revision 4 immediately to the dismay of 97.754% of populous
3.Show of power, hwbot.org can be gone in 2 seconds
4.Hosting issues (doubt it)

[ReverendMaynard]

could be a couple things ;)
1.Name change to msibot.org
2.They decided to implement revision 4 immediately to the dismay of 97.754% of populous
3.Show of power, hwbot.org can be gone in 2 seconds
4.Hosting issues (doubt it)

option 3 in a perfect world, they can't be naive enough to think someone else can't do what they do.

I understands ricks point regarding 'you get what you pay for', trouble is, when you start something out totally free, and then decide one day that people should pay for it.....shit'll get dicey real quick.

Look at facebook, prime example. now even though it's flooded with adds and it's gayer than ever they absolutely could not just flip the switch to a membership fee or the bottom would have fell out and Zuckerberg wouldn't have a movie based on him.

Maybe massman will have a movie based on himself one day called "...If Shit Sticks"

[Mr.Scott]

I'm thinking 3 on this.;)

[kikicoco1334]

Unfrtunately this is a public thread and i can't say EXACTLY what i want to do the the dip shit.

that's you right?
the guy in the pix

[Bones]

I'm thinking 3 on this.;)

Things would probrably be better that way. Of course it's up again and with some editing done of course.
I believe before it's all over, they'll be shown how "God-Like" they're NOT when the members start jumping ship for greener pastures like so many lemmings at a diving contest.

Speaking of pastures, the bot pasture is now certified as full of it. :Dizzy: (Well, we've kinda known that for sometime now right?)

Guys, I made my thoughts known and that's all I have to say about it. It's not worth loosing sleep over nor will I. I'll continue to do as I've been doing all along.

[Neuromancer]

Things would probrably be better that way. Of course it's up again and with some editing done of course.
I believe before it's all over, they'll be shown how "God-Like" they're NOT when the members start jumping ship for greener pastures like so many lemmings at a diving contest.

Speaking of pastures, the bot pasture is now certified as full of it. :Dizzy: (Well, we've kinda known that for sometime now right?)

Guys, I made my thoughts known and that's all I have to say about it. It's not worth loosing sleep over nor will I. I'll continue to do as I've been doing all along.


Dude I read your posts at HWbot and on behalf of Massman I have to say.. you are a complete and utter A-Hold and need a Vulcan's Lifetime ban!!!!!




If the star trek thing did not give it away I was completely joking.

You were a total gentleman over there, except for pointing out the big ass lie being told. You were rewarded with a ban... Because that is what people that do not like the truth do when confronted intellectually. Consider it a badge of honor. You are da man.

[GeorgeStorm]

Mm,
This thread is almost identical to the one over at Benchtec
Nobody is happy, it just makes teams a one/two man affair, as most guys can't LN2, and therefore are no use to the team as the top guys will have benched most stuff already :/

[Splave]

I figured most places where in an uproar but thanks for confirming george. Its a real turn off to even our ln2 guys, its going to turn into who has the golden chip makes the team rules lol

[GeorgeStorm]

Mm, it just puts more pressure on the LN2 guys, and makes us non LN2 people feel kinda useless
Especially since jabski has done every s775 known to man on cascade/LN2, so none of our scores are worth anything to the team :p

[Splave]

Things would probrably be better that way. Of course it's up again and with some editing done of course.
I believe before it's all over, they'll be shown how "God-Like" they're NOT when the members start jumping ship for greener pastures like so many lemmings at a diving contest.

Speaking of pastures, the bot pasture is now certified as full of it. :Dizzy: (Well, we've kinda known that for sometime now right?)

Guys, I made my thoughts known and that's all I have to say about it. It's not worth loosing sleep over nor will I. I'll continue to do as I've been doing all along.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2qty838.jpg

[DrNip]

Out of the thousands and thousands of overclockers at the bot someone out of the bunch has got to be certified, schooled, or self taught in the areas required to spin off a new overclcoking database. Just got to sit back and wait. Weeeeeeee. http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/images/smilies/wee1.gif

[Neuromancer]

Yeah.. Massman sounds like a tool when he talks about "expense." He is the expense. No massman = hwbot cheap

[GeorgeStorm]

Btw I was wondering, whats the whole OCA vs XS thing going on over there?
I couldn't really get my head around it
They saying you HW share?
But i saw that 'newegg shopping basket' thread or whatever it was
Why on earth would you be spending so much if you hwshare :p
(sorry for the slight offtopic)

[DrNip]

It's just chew still hating on OCA zooming by XS in rankings. We did it months ago, you think he would be over it by now.

[GeorgeStorm]

Why isn't he moaning at PURE then? As i'm sure all the best guys from XS went over there :/

[DrNip]

I can't call it why he does what he does. Best bet is just to ignore him as he is only strumming for drama.

[Kal-EL]

Slight change to Rev 4 made:

Okay.

Since the thread is a bit more quiet now, I can make a post that will be seen. Adjusting the plans a bit: we'll keep the current team format (all points awarded) and have some sort of PowerTeam ranking which is all about having top scores. This "split-up" is pretty much similar to the current Overclockers League versus Hardware Masters.

The big team league (all points) will, most likely, be main ranking for teams.

Now, does anyone have any suggestions to reduce hardware/score sharing?

[Hondacity]

we need another video for that to be explained...

xtranormal.com

lol

[FACE]

Cool... now we just have to come up with a way to kill off hardware sharing?

I choose to sit and wait on that one... I smell a revelation coming... If the community get to figure out how to catch it, can the community then administer punishment? If so, i like "beatings with broomsticks" for $100, Mr. Trebek. :laughing:

[Kal-EL]

Cool... now we just have to come up with a way to kill off hardware sharing?

I choose to sit and wait on that one... I smell a revelation coming... If the community get to figure out how to catch it, can the community then administer punishment? If so, i like "beatings off" for $100, Mr. Trebek. :laughing:
I concur :)

[FACE]

^ I see what you did there.... you're a funny man. :taunt:

[Splave]

I say let people share, I dont care

[DrNip]

I don't give a shit if people share or not either. What I do care about is cry ass baby mofos crying all the time about it. Get up, get out and do something or get out, get up and get some! LOL

[FACE]

....I just want to hit someone with a broomstick.. :blush:

[ocgmj]

I vote for rap in the nuts with a hoe handle or point in the eye with a sharp stick. :rofl

[DrNip]

I'm to the point of who gives a shat. Right? Share, don't share, who cares. The person being accused will always fall back on the excuse the hardware was sold not shared. Then how could you prove it wasn't?

[Kal-EL]

I'm chillaxin.

[Witchdoctor]

We will see many things change in the coming months

We will see what it is all about soon enough

A lot of stuff is being put out ther

Personally now that I have read in depth what they plan to do,

well I will leave it at that I guess ...........

[Neuromancer]

IF top 10 or 20 score... like you used to have to submit validation link... you have to submit invoice scan (with ACCT# blotted out of course)

[Neuromancer]

I say let people share, I dont care

Yeah that makes a lot of sense too TBH.

Its supposed to be about the overclockers themselves not the HW. You could give me your best chip... am I going to hit 6+GHz on it? Probably not...:ohcrap:

[ReverendMaynard]

if anything they should embrace sharing to get more people involved.

Personally I don't give a rats ass. Share, don't share...just stfu and bench.

[Patch]

I think I might actually like this revision now.


We may get a boost in rankings depending on how they do the boints. Usually only 2 or 3 teams beat us in global boints.

[Kal-EL]

if anything they should embrace sharing to get more people involved.

Personally I don't give a rats ass. Share, don't share...just stfu and bench.
I agree.

[DrNip]

Now if we can just get people to quit crying. Don't think I will frequent HWBot's forum any longer. Too many babies. Can't stand it. Wish forums could all be like ours! :D


if anything they should embrace sharing to get more people involved.

Personally I don't give a rats ass. Share, don't share...just stfu and bench.

+8ghz

Pretty much what I have been screaming!

[Kal-EL]

nvm, screw it and bench bitches :D

[Witchdoctor]

Off Topic,

Supes that avy is just fucking disturbing ............

WFT happened to the man of steel :blink:

lmao .....