Installing XP with no cd drive?

[ny_driver]

I tried copying the cd onto my flash drive, but that doesn't seem to work. I didn't really want to have to d/l XP.

Help please?:blush:

Edit by Kal:
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[ReverendMaynard]

here ya go, but I highly recommend you downloading the Tiny Rev9 version of XP before doing this.

http://www.jcmiras.net/surge/p96.htm

[ny_driver]

Thanks.

I already decided to download the Black Edition and it's 20% done already.:thumbsup:\

Where do I get this Tiny rev9 you mentioned? And is it all streamlined for benching or something because that is what I really want.

nevermind...Googled it.

[ny_driver]

What about rev 10...or platinum edition of Tiny XP? Those are easily attainable.

Rev 10 it is.

[Kal-EL]

Visit our Team FTP thread in the Sactum ;)

[rickss69]

What about rev 10...or platinum edition of Tiny XP? Those are easily attainable.

Rev 10 it is.

Tiny XP v9 is what I used for the contest ny, but feel free to test them all. :good:

[ny_driver]

I'm stuck @ procedure 1 - #5. "Bootsect.exe is not a valid windows32 command"

[rickss69]

I'm stuck @ procedure 1 - #5. "Bootsect.exe is not a valid windows32 command"

Where did you get the iso. ?

[ny_driver]

pirate bay...

[rickss69]

See post #5....;)

[ny_driver]

I don't see Tiny XP there.

[rickss69]

It's under OCA_OS images. Dbl click and go into my folder (rickss69).

[ny_driver]

I found it exactly where you said, only right before you said it. Sorry for being so blind, or not looking hard enough.:blush:

[ny_driver]

But what am I going to do with this iso that I couldn't do with the other?

[rickss69]

But what am I going to do with this iso that I couldn't do with the other?

Uh, maybe this one will install? :Dizzy: I know nothing of these Platinum, 10 or Black versions...all I can tell you is Tiny XP v9 works well and works without fail. :good:

[ny_driver]

Bootsect was the problem, or I am doing something wrong I think.......I didn't even get to the iso yet.

I'm trying to make this flash drive bootable to xp installation.

My head is about spinning right now.....this shit gets me frustrated, but on a happier note the coolant is staying right @ -30 C.

I appreciate the help Rick:thumbsup:

What exactly do YOU do with the iso? I am d/l rev 9 now.

[rickss69]

Sorry, but I know nothing of usb or flash drives. If you manage to get that far the install should be quick once you set the boot order in bios. I usually just install #1 option on the list with all the drivers and explorer.

[Hondacity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vt_8p0VllY

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[ny_driver]

Thanks bro. I actually figured out the whole problem though. It's always something......in the instructions of what to type in the command prompt it does not tell you to type a colon after the drive letter.

Maybe I should just know that, but even so I was following the instructions so WTF?

It still won't work with the rev 10 I d/l off PB though. So I'm just waiting for the rev 9 from OCA FTP to be done.

Thanks for the help brothers. :thumbsup: Until next time..................:cool3:

[ny_driver]

For some reason the d/l stopped @ 429/700 MB? Now I have to spend like 2-3 more hours waiting for it...great.

All day to do a xp install.:thumbdown:

[ny_driver]

Anyways...has anyone done a TinyXP install without an optical drive? I'm pulling my hair out here guys.:Dizzy:

[ny_driver]

I'm not no Fucktard ok:laughing:

I follow these directions http://www.ocia.net/articles/xpflashdrive/page1.shtml and when i get to the point where I have to navigate to the folder where I copied the windows files, it tells me there are no installation files found there. I checked that I copied the contents of the iso I wanted to that folder. :keeporder:

I am now very frustrated, but more determined than ever to win this battle.

Should I just install XP and then strip it down? It might be faster.

[Neuromancer]

Yeah a lot of the guides people follow assume to many things... If that guide does not work try another.

I have been using a USB DVDROM for the last few months.. works great :) Just plug it in when I need it :)

[ny_driver]

I don't see how tinyxp installs even with a cd...it contains no setup files. I can't believe there have not been more people that wanted to install it with a flash drive.

I've spent the whole day and gotten absolutely nowhere.

I install 7 from a flash drive np.

[Hondacity]

Yeah a lot of the guides people follow assume to many things... If that guide does not work try another.

I have been using a USB DVDROM for the last few months.. works great :) Just plug it in when I need it :)

usb is limited....how long do you install from cd/dvd?

[Neuromancer]

It's slow.. its a 4x dvd rom I think? Dont matter to me was a freebie... and there are tools to turn USB sticks into virtual floppies, CDroms, or boot drives...

TBH its not any slower than the 8X IDE dvdROM I have... (all my DVDRWs are in "working PCs" LOL)

Im going to be moving to all USB sticks soon though I think...

Going to figure out how to turn this 16GB USB3 stick into a multi OS installation tool :)

[Hondacity]

the bottle neck is the usb..even a usb stick is a bottle neck....sata cables are 100x faster... i just got a freebie image manager i'll practice doing images instead of iso's

[Neuromancer]

the bottle neck is the usb..even a usb stick is a bottle neck....sata cables are 100x faster... i just got a freebie image manager i'll practice doing images instead of iso's

usb3 is faster than sata2... at least in reviews I saw...and much cheaper...

I am thinking of turning my corsair nova series into an IFD drive :) USB3 for installing... SATA2 for imaging... (IFD does not like imaging to USB drives... imaging to an esata though... perfect :) )

Might just get one of those 320GB seagate drives that does 160/140 Sustained transfers too and try that out... thats a LOT of TBI files :)

I dunno, lot to read up on...

[ny_driver]

Well I wasted 16 hours yesterday trying to get TinyXP installed from a Flash Drive. Awesome. I even tried using my legal copy of XP pro.

I don't know what the problem or problems are, but after that many unsuccessful attempts I'm about to say screw XP and benchmarking.

One big problem is no "windows source files" included in TinyXP....if you guys can install it from an optical drive I should be able to make a virtual drive containing it and copy it to the flash drive. Which I am able to do, but it's not booting for numerous reasons....missing hal.dll so it tells you to use the debug codes if you get that error, but the debug codes don't work either. I get hardware configuration problem when I try debug codes.

Ughhhh I don't even really want to talk about it anymore. I just want the answer.

I have a freshly formatted HD, do I need to pre-partition it? Doesn't windows installer have that function?

[Kal-EL]

Well I wasted 16 hours yesterday trying to get TinyXP installed from a Flash Drive. Awesome. I even tried using my legal copy of XP pro.

I don't know what the problem or problems are, but after that many unsuccessful attempts I'm about to say screw XP and benchmarking.

One big problem is no "windows source files" included in TinyXP....if you guys can install it from an optical drive I should be able to make a virtual drive containing it and copy it to the flash drive. Which I am able to do, but it's not booting for numerous reasons....missing hal.dll so it tells you to use the debug codes if you get that error, but the debug codes don't work either. I get hardware configuration problem when I try debug codes.

Ughhhh I don't even really want to talk about it anymore. I just want the answer.

I have a freshly formatted HD, do I need to pre-partition it? Doesn't windows installer have that function?

I missed it, why don't you just install from an optical drive?

[ny_driver]

Don't have any sata optical drives, or usb either.

[Kal-EL]

Don't have any sata optical drives, or usb either.
Might be worth the investment to get at least a usb for installs :morpheus:

[ny_driver]

It makes no sense that I actually need one though.

[Kal-EL]

It makes no sense that I actually need one though.

Stubborn! :taunt:

[Hondacity]

i have 3 sata-dvd drives.... installs from sata to ssd takes only 5 minutes...xp or 7.

[ny_driver]

Well I can't figure out how to get it to install from a flash drive. WinToFlash works, but when I boot up from the USB to install xp I get "missing or corrupt hal.dll" error, so it tells me to try this list of debug codes and none of them work. I know the HD works. It still booted the old OS(7) yesterday.

I read that the hal.dll has to do with the # of the HD, and # of the partition being incorrect in boot.ini. I have tried editing in different values other than the default debug codes and I just can't figure it out.

I only have the USB drive and the Sata drive installed, the sata is freshly formatted so it has to be the 1st partition and it must be the 1st or 2nd drive. I've tried all logical values(0,1&2) in each place.

I can see a fun night ahead trying to figure this out.

[Hondacity]

did you watch the link i provided?

[ny_driver]

Yes I tried that. That's where I got wintoflash. Regardless of how I have tried it the end result is that the windows xp source files needed for installation are not being found no matter what tinyxp I have used, or which method.

I just tried the 1st suggestion again also rickss69.

I gtg. I'll be back later. Thanks for all the suggestions.

[ReverendMaynard]

http://wintoflash.com/download/en/

just tossing tid bits your way. I have this working right now on a USB so I'll put together a quick and dirty how to for you and save you some hair loss :)

[69_Goat]

This is the procedure I use to make a flash drive bootable.

3oh6 posted this at EVGA forums for flashing the bios.

http://www.evga.com/forumsarchive/tm.asp?m=671353

I've used it numerous times with no problems.

[Hondacity]

This is the procedure I use to make a flash drive bootable.

3oh6 posted this at EVGA forums for flashing the bios.

http://www.evga.com/forumsarchive/tm.asp?m=671353

I've used it numerous times with no problems.

this is jody's upgraded guide

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=179051

[ny_driver]

Cool, I got lots to do when I get home......no I haven't left yet;)

Thanks reverend, that would be excellent.

[ReverendMaynard]

good stuff, but that's not for making a USB XP install flash drive it's a bit more involved lol. If you just want to make a flash drive bootable, dl the dos file pack from bootdisk.com, and use the HP USB Format tool. I think that's all that Jody did.

edit: nope, he made it way more complicated lol.

This is the procedure I use to make a flash drive bootable.

3oh6 posted this at EVGA forums for flashing the bios.

http://www.evga.com/forumsarchive/tm.asp?m=671353

I've used it numerous times with no problems.

[69_Goat]

Right-O Rev!

Making the flash drive bootable isn't the problem.
Burning the iso to the flash drive is where things get dicey.

(I didn't get enough sleep last night. lol. Shoulda stay at the Holiday Inn.)

[ReverendMaynard]

Right-O Rev!

Making the flash drive bootable isn't the problem.
Burning the iso to the flash drive is where things get dicey.

(I didn't get enough sleep last night. lol. Shoulda stay at the Holiday Inn.)

it is dicey as shit. I've tried 4 methods now, cmd line works the best but there is some happening to the XP install that isn't....good lol.

nv, I'm bustin nuts to get this easy for you, please be patient...half assed isn't my thing :)

[ny_driver]

That's cool I have all weekend. EDIT: or as long as it takes...I really appreciate the help!

I have my new memory to play with for a little while anyways:)

[ny_driver]

Any luck Reverend? I think I'll buy a dvd burner tomorrow so I guess I'll be all set.:)

[ny_driver]

I bought this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 , so I will try to get tiny xp installed tonight.

[ny_driver]

....well I installed TinyXP rev09 and it tells me bootmgr is not found when I try to load TinyXP.

WTF?

[Neuromancer]

I bought this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 , so I will try to get tiny xp installed tonight.

Sweet thanks. Just ordered one myself :)

[rickss69]

....well I installed TinyXP rev09 and it tells me bootmgr is not found when I try to load TinyXP.

WTF?

Boot order changed/correct in bios?

[ny_driver]

Boot order changed/correct in bios?
Yes boot order changed after installation.....freshly formatted drive, and freshly burned copy of TinyXP. I selected option #2.

[ocgmj]

Do you have more than one hard drive plugged in?

[ny_driver]

I tried it with only the tinyxp drive installed and with my 7 drive hooked up. I set it to boot from the tinyxp drive.

[rickss69]

Try physically removing any other drives you may have hooked up to the mb and use the TinyXP only. Were the other drives with the Win7 OS present when you installed TinyXP?

This has just about got to be something on your end ny - TinyXP rev9 is about as reliable as anything out there...works when nothing else does. Wipe it/long formatt and re-install...if that doesnt do it I would suspect the hdd you are using. Do you have another to try?

[ny_driver]

I got it now. Apparently BOOTMGR got installed on the 7 drive or something. I reinstalled with no other drives hooked up the 2nd time.

Thanks.

[rickss69]

Good deal - That's why I like to disconnect other drives when installing an OS...I mistakenly erased a storage hdd once and have never forgotten it lol.

[ny_driver]

I wanted it so when I start the system it asks me which OS to use, but that didn't happen. I must manually select via the BIOS.

EDIT: It's good this way.

[rickss69]

I wanted it so when I start the system it asks me which OS to use, but that didn't happen. I must manually select via the BIOS.

EDIT: It's good this way.

It will do that only if you have dual boot on a single hdd.

[Neuromancer]

Good deal - That's why I like to disconnect other drives when installing an OS...I mistakenly erased a storage hdd once and have never forgotten it lol.

Always a good idea. I should have done that before I ever installed that Virus Se7en totally effed up my file permissions on my storage drives.

[Kal-EL]

Always a good idea. I should have done that before I ever installed that Virus Se7en totally effed up my file permissions on my storage drives.

What "Virus Se7en"?

[ocgmj]

What "Virus Se7en"?

Windows 7 :laughing:

[Neuromancer]

LOL yeah... got a little frustrated at it again.

Sorry for the confusion.

If I say "Mojave" it means windows 7 when everything is working. If I say I have a "virus", it means Windows 7 is acting stupid again.