What cooler for air?

[Jeffro64]

Which one have y'all found to be the best of the best for benching on air?

[Kal-EL]

These two seem to be the top of the roost when it comes to ari cooling:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8335/cpu-tri-55/Thermalright_Limited_Edition_TRUE_Copper_Ultra-120_eXtreme_CPU_Heatsink_Socket_LGA_775_LGA_1366_A M2_Xeon.html

and

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Prolimatech_Megahalems_Intel_CPU_Heatsink_LGA_775_ 1366.html

MEGAHALEM
http://www.frozencpu.com/images/products/large/cpu-pro-01.jpg


TRUE
http://www.frozencpu.com/images/products/large/cpu-tri-55.jpg

[DrNip]

I have the True Ultra extreme 120, the standard version and it cooled the same if not better than my water setup. The copper one is better but harder to find and more expensive.

[Jeffro64]

I like that true copper.... I guess the push pull fans would help that much more?

[Kal-EL]

I like that true copper.... I guess the push pull fans would help that much more?

Thats what they say. I've never used it but I've read over and over how well it performs. I don't think you can go wrong with it. The magahalem is starting to see reviews where its a couple degrees cooler than the TRUE but the jury is still out.

[Jeffro64]

I was looking at the optional fan mount and it said something about it can be used for a push pull... but the way it looks like it hooks up it doesn't look like that would be possible. But they aren't the best pics.

[Jeffro64]

The magahalem is starting to see reviews where its a couple degrees cooler than the TRUE but the jury is still out.

Too bad you can't find one anywhere.:rolleyes:

[DrNip]

Here are some tests done on various coolers. One site the Megahalem wins but the other the TRUE wins.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=285&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=15

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTYxNCwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

[Jeffro64]

Interesting reads.... Looks like they are both very good coolers for sure. I'll probably get the TRUE because I can't find the Megahalem instock anywhere LOL!

[DrNip]

I like the bolt down kit way more for the Megahalem than the TRUE. The TRUE is kinda hard to do and you end up sliding the cooler around on the CPU which at times has gotten my paste everywhere.

[Jeffro64]

Is it that hard out of a case... I mean like on a bench? I wonder how long the Megahalem will be out of stock everywhere.

[Jeffro64]

ORDERED TODAY!!! It will come lapped and ready to go with two panaflo fans!:D

[DrNip]

I seen they are in stock in two places, FrozenCPU and Performance PC's. Performance PC has them for $59.99 while FrozenCPU has them for $69.99. But FrozenCPU has the spare fan clips that you will need unlike everyone else. Make sure you get the 38mm fan clips as there is a difference between them and the ones that come with the cooler which are for 25mm fans.

[Jeffro64]

Yeah... I called CrazyPC to ask when they would have them back instock and they just so happened to have ONE but they had pulled it off the site until more came in. I did get the 38mm clips to go with those fans and got the lapping option.


My tech station just arrived!!! :D

[Jeffro64]

The Megahalem arrived today a day early.... Looks like it will get the job done for air!

[Kal-EL]

The Megahalem arrived today a day early.... Looks like it will get the job done for air!

Cool Jeffro, when you get time, start another thread and share some pics with the gang.

[Jeffro64]

I plan on bro....once I get things in i'll start a thread and post pics from the begining of the build.

[Kal-EL]

That thing is gonna look mean and retarded like my brother.

[Jeffro64]

I just hope I don't have any of the nightmares Nip has had.

[DrNip]

I just hope I don't have any of the nightmares Nip has had.

I doubt you will as in my case it is more rare than normal for it to happen. I want to get that air cooler but it is wider than the TRUE and my RAM sits so high. I can barley fit the TRUE with a 38mm fan on mine. That is with no fan guard too which I'm not found of as I see my knuckles hittin the blade. I ordered some 25mm fans and I will have to see the clearance as I think 25mm fans and the mega-whatever cooler will be the same as my TRUE and 38mm.

[Jeffro64]

That might just work... it looks like a hell of a cooler! Too bad they don't have one or brackets for AMD.

[Jeffro64]

Well.... I ordered a kit to be able to use my Megahalem on my socket AM3 and the tracking shows delivered yesterday but I had no package. I guess if it don't show today i'll have to order another.:mad:

[DrNip]

WTF man. Who was the carrier?

[Jeffro64]

USPS..... It showed up today, I bet he scanned it early while at the boxes down the street yesterday and then forgot to drop it off.


Now maybe i'll get some lower temps outta this baby!! :D

[Kal-EL]

PICs or Vaporware!!!!!!!! :D

[Jeffro64]

Gonna have to wait..... Dammit, it seems when Prolimatech made this kit they neglected to measure. The CPU socket is in the way of letting the mount line up with the holes on the backplate.:mad::argh:

[Kal-EL]

Gonna have to wait..... Dammit, it seems when Prolimatech made this kit they neglected to measure. The CPU socket is in the way of letting the mount line up with the holes on the backplate.:mad::argh:
wtf!! :confused: :confused: :confused: :argh: :mad:

[Jeffro64]

I know... i'm pissed! I've emailed them being that they don't supply a phone number to call them. So I guess i'll hurry up and wait some more.

[Kal-EL]

I know... i'm pissed! I've emailed them being that they don't supply a phone number to call them. So I guess i'll hurry up and wait some more.

Sounds kinda like S.W.A.T. tactics "Hurry UP! & wait" :ash1:

[Jeffro64]

Think i'll head up to Home Depot and see if I can find a file.... That should do the trick.

[Jeffro64]

Well.... Got it done with a dremmel tool and the Megahalem is now attached. Gotta say it's not as good as I thought it would be.

[Kal-EL]

Is it the temps or the failed factory specs?

[Jeffro64]

The temps.... I was able to lower the volts a bit and get them down some but it's not much better than the stock cooler I had on there. I could only get one fan on it because it would take out the first two ram slots if I tried to use two fans LOL. I don't know why these people don't think of that and make these things a little taller, I mean I know they gotta fit into a case for most applications.... but make a taller one for us guys that aren't using a case! :D


I'm sitting at 3.8ghz now... got it to boot at 3.9 but it wasn't stable at all so i'm still playing around with settings I know nothing about. Looks kinda grim for anything higher though.

[Kal-EL]

Don't lose faith brother, she's just playing hard to get right now, take ur time, get to know her a little bit more, slip something in her drink then bang her at 4.2ghz :rofl

[Jeffro64]

I'm trying but until I know what all the settings do and understand them it's futile.

[Kal-EL]

Only thing I can suggest is scouring google, reviews, forums for clues to the AMD bios. Beyond that its old fashioned science test and log.

[Jeffro64]

Yeah....just not much out there yet. And I can change settings but as far as what they actually do sometimes it's not that obvious to be able to log anything, and sometimes I can see what it does either in performance or CPUz. It's a crap shoot LOL!! :D

[Chuchnit]

Yeah....just not much out there yet. And I can change settings but as far as what they actually do sometimes it's not that obvious to be able to log anything, and sometimes I can see what it does either in performance or CPUz. It's a crap shoot LOL!! :D

When I started on the Rex I was lost too. Granted I understood the bios better than the pics you posted but still... I used prime95, super pi, and 2k6 for testing. I would only change one thing at a time. For example with clock skews for the nb. When I was getting close to 600fsb, I was using super pi and prime for testing. I would change the skews one level at a time, reboot and test. First thing I did was run super pi 1m since it's very sensitive to your stability. Sometimes you will be a little faster by upping vcore and making the cpu mroe stable. Of course run it over 5 or 6 times to get a clear result.

Then I would run prime95 small fft for a few minutes and then blend for a few. This is really where you find stability. Super pi 1m was just a quick speed/stability test. If I failed a thread in prime, I would write down how long it took to fail and what core. If it lasted longer than the last time I ran prime, I changed the clock skews more. If it failed at the same place, I would go back to where I started before trying skews. Make sense?

[Jeffro64]

Yeppers.... that's pretty much what i've been doing, but I fear that until I get some extreme cooling on this bad boy i've gone about as far as I can go.

[Jeffro64]

PICs or Vaporware!!!!!!!! :D

Pics Have been added to the first post in the Members Rigs forum!:D

[Kal-EL]

Check! :D

[MaadDaawg]

I have a 775 quad core rig that's air cooled, and I went with the Noctua because it was slightly lighter than the TRUE. With hi speed yate loon fans in push pull it does a good job of cooling. One of the reasons I went to water was because the HSFs were just getting too big and heavy :p

[Jeffro64]

I'm getting some better temps on water now... still struggling with this board and bios though.

Hey Supes... did you get my PM about the wPrime 32M thread in the Bot forum??

[Kal-EL]

I'm getting some better temps on water now... still struggling with this board and bios though.

Hey Supes... did you get my PM about the wPrime 32M thread in the Bot forum??

Ah shoot, I did but I was Mega-Multi-Tasking and forgot to reply. Lemme go take a look. :ash1:

Update: You got points at the bot so Yah! its all G. The bot will make its rounds to the first post and update it at it's leisure, its a lazy bot :P

[Jeffro64]

Gotcha... I just thought it was weird that the bot showed up and updated my 1024M thread score but not the 32M.

[Kal-EL]

On the first post of the rankings sections for each benchamrk, there is a Update Rankings link that will allow u to manually bizslap the bot into updating the ranking. Use it when u get the itch.

[Jeffro64]

Hmmmm.... Tried that and it said it updated but my old score is still there. Oh well, guess i'm stuck at #9 forever in that thread LMAO! :D

Ima knockin on your door in 32M and can't get any luv from that damn bot. I was at 7.3 when I started yesterday and i'm only at 8.3 now when it says I gained 3.5 points from this batch of runs... so IDK what's going on LOL.

[Kal-EL]

Hmmmm.... Tried that and it said it updated but my old score is still there. Oh well, guess i'm stuck at #9 forever in that thread LMAO! :D

Ima knockin on your door and can't get any luv from that damn bot. I was at 7.3 when I started yesterday and i'm only at 8.3 now when it says I gained 3.5 points from this batch of runs... so IDK what's going on LOL.

Did you know MCHammer made a comeback? He has a t.v. show and all. He pm'd me and said to tell you "Can't Touch This!" ba bum ba bum. :rofl:rofl:rofl

[Jeffro64]

LMAO.... For now, soon my friend...soon. :D

[Kal-EL]

LMAO.... For now, soon my friend...soon. :D
Hamma Time! :dance:

[youngpro]

noctua ftw! im using a bunch of their coolers on all platforms and its the wtg