Anything & Everything Sandybridge

[DrNip]

The second generation Core

The name of the fastest Sandy Bridge is Core i7 2600K and we can give you an inside in the new naming scheme. First of all you will know that it’s a Sandy Bridge if you see a name with four digits starting with a number two.

Let’s dissect the Core i7 2600K moniker in segments and explain it. Intel Core is the brand of the CPU, i7 is the brand modifier that will help you distinct the features on a different cores. Number two in 2600 is the generation indicator meaning that this is the second generation of Intel’s Core architecture.

The 600 is the SKU numeric digits that will tell you which CPU you are getting and of course once again bigger numbers mean a better CPU.

The suffix K tells you that the CPU is unlocked and the other iterations such as suffix S will tell you that this is a CPU with performance optimised for lifestyle computing and T has Power Optimised Lifestyle whatever that would mean.

Once again, Intel has new chipset, new socket, new names and of course if you want the Sandy Bridge you will have to throw or sell your Nehalem Core i based system and get a new one with a socket that is only one pin shy of its predecessor.

SOURCE:

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/processors/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-name-explained

Just as I was saying awhile back, 1365 socket FTL on us 1366 socket mobo holders. :(

[Chuchnit]

its funny because there are more than one pin in 1366 that is literally there for nothing. Just a money grab.

[karmakazi]

wow thats a total bs move by intel... now I think Ill just hold onto my classy and skip getting the R3E

[Witchdoctor]

I heard that...

Think I am done investing into 1366 .... may grab a cheap 930 since this 960 I just grabbed is a total POS ....

But you have to hand it to Intel ...

They are holding all the cards and untill the AMD camp can bring the mojo

The new Intel boards will fly off the shelves I am sure .....

It will represent the only viable option for Global domination (Evil Laugh)

[MaadDaawg]

What about the rumors that intel plans on retarding the Sandy Bridge so it can't run as fast as it's physically capable of?

[Witchdoctor]

That would be a marketing disater and finacial suicide IMO

AMD would have the upper hand for sure ....

I doubt Intel would be that stupid , as we are not where the majority is, as far as overall sales, but we do represent a market share and dominate their Extreme addition sales ....

[Kal-EL]

What about the rumors that intel plans on retarding the Sandy Bridge so it can't run as fast as it's physically capable of?

Its pretty retarded at the moment but the mobo manufs are working to un-leash that performance, fear not, it will be released! :good:

[thebanik]

Though they are the performance leader but Intel is evil, :P

[Neuromancer]

Its pretty retarded at the moment but the mobo manufs are working to un-leash that performance, fear not, it will be released! :good:

Yup the inital design of the X58 had safety features too to prevent it from passing the 130TDP envelope. I think we can all see that was a bust :)

[DrNip]

Think I am done investing into 1366

I know I'm done investing in 1366. AMD out! :clapping:

[DrNip]

Top Sandy Bridge works at 3.4GHz

Core i7 2600K with turbo to 3.8GHz
The top Core i7 2000 series, the one that we expect in Q1 2011 is going to work at 3.4GHz. The official name is Core i7 2600K and this quad-core CPU runs at 3.4GHz and boasts eight threads. The K stands for unlocked CPU, something that many overclockers plan to warmly welcome and for less experienced users Turbo 2 will overclock the core to 3.8GHz.

Turbo 2 can overclock a single core, two cores, or all four cores, depending on the thermals and load in any given moment. The memory of support is DDR3 1066 and 1333 and unofficially it will support even higher clocked memory. Sandy Bridge supports two-channel memory. As we said yesterday, its graphics run at 850MHz native clock and 1350MHz with the help of Turbo 2. Intel calls this Dynamic frequency.

The TDP is 95W and the CPU needs 6 series chipset and socket LGA1155 motherboard.

SOURCE:
http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/processors/top-sandy-bridge-works-at-34ghz

[DrNip]

Only Core i7 Sandy Bridge has eight threads

Core i3 only two
The new thing about the second Core generation codenamed Sandy Bridge is that only the top branded CPUs will have feature hyperthreading.

Hypertreds don’t do that much but they do show you that you have „eight cores“ in Windows task manager and you will only see eight threads with top Core i7 CPUs.

Core i5 CPUs will be a native quad-core CPUs but they won’t support hyperthreading. This will be exclusively reserved for Core i7 2000 series parts. Core i3 native dual-cores will only support two treads which is step down from current Core i3 CPUs that feature two cores and support four threads.

The trend of lack of Turbo support in Core i3 generation will continue with new Sandy Bridge based Core i3 2000 series CPUs.

This is the branding and performance distinction that Intel wants to make clearer in 2011 as most people got confused with Core i branding, as Core i5 and Core i7 were overlapping in many performance and feature characteristics. Now the distinction should be more clear, but it looks to us that in most cases you will get less for the same money.

SOURCE:
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/only-core-i7-sandy-bridge-has-eight-threads

[DrNip]

I posted this chart somewhere else awhile back but it got lost so here it is again as some of the information has been updated. :D

Confirmed names and specs

http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2889&d=1282819687


Uncomfirmed names and specs

http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2890&stc=1&d=1282820075

God I wonder how much they will rip us for that 8 core monster!!!

[Splave]

wow could be some epic wprime quads

[Kal-EL]

20mb L3 cache is just retarded, all those calculations instructions occurring on the cpu before reaching out for room.

[DrNip]

Good stuff here.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/1

[Hondacity]

anand fails to talk about the little stuff...

but heck this i5-2400 is almost as good as the 980x.....sheesh 200$ is nice...a toy to play with once oc is good with the k series...

[DrNip]

Hmmmm, don't know what to think of this. Are they selling ES Sandybridge systems already or what?

http://www.liquid nitrogen overclocking.com/news_09.shtml

Won't let me post the link without the spaces or else it puts asterisks there like this so take the spaces out before you click the link:

http://www.**************************.com/news_09.shtml

[DrNip]

Man take a look at the results with this 2600k. Hoping I have enough saved by the time it drops. Would hate to be on the sidelines when this drops. :(

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=262104

[Kal-EL]

Theres a bunch of es chips in the wild right now, plenty. A couple euro-friends have a bunch in circulation and for sale.

[Neuromancer]

I would rather see 25x200 :)

[Hondacity]

i can wait till jan5 :D

[DrNip]

I wonder if the 2600k will be launched that day or if we'll have to wait for it a month or two down the line?

[Splave]

I cant wait for sandy
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4623590

superpi/pf/aq3/05? will be obliterated with the imc on these

[Chuchnit]

Is this efficiency real or is my math off this morning? In win7 to boot. :eek:

http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/showpost.php?p=396166&postcount=53

http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3906&stc=1&d=1290185346

[Hondacity]

its real...

[Chuchnit]

its real...

crazy... Imagine proper XP/03 server with tweaks. :eek: It's kinda scary how fast SB is looking. They better really have something special with socket 2011 to make it worth buying.

[Hondacity]

2011 is quad channel ddr3....imagine how much bandwidth that is....

i hope 2600k is under 800$

intel for sure is doing a 580gtx move on amd............

amd will introduce the bullozer...next year....but intel like nvidia made a gorilla move:D

[GeorgeStorm]

Is that that amazing? (I know very little about 32M)
Other runs at that kinda time are 5.2-3 Not that much of a clockspeed difference? :/

[Chuchnit]

Is that that amazing? (I know very little about 32M)
Other runs at that kinda time are 5.2-3 Not that much of a clockspeed difference? :/

Considering the ram MHZ, timings and the fact that is was ran on a win7 install obviously used to run a ton of other 2d/3d benches..... yes I would call it amazing.

[Hondacity]

chuch show georgie the computation ...i forget :(

[Chuchnit]

Well here is Windwithme's run (http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1078494_)on the Biostar. Looks like Win7 with aero even enabled.

6m 41.467s - so convert that into seconds which is 401.467. Then multiply that by the CPU mhz which is 5120mhz.

401.467 * 5120 = 2055511


Basically that is blazing fast. That is amazing efficiency on X58 triple channel with hypers. Keep in mind when I say amazing on X58, I mean on XP or server03 fully tweaked out. This is just on win7 with aero enabled. Sub 2mil eff should be pie on some good hypers and proper OS.

[DrNip]

2600k Review:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/138458.htm&act=url

[rickss69]

Other than benchmarks, what will these really be of benefit to one compared to what we now have?

[Chuchnit]

Native sata III, heavy increase in IPC imo, lower power, maybe more cpu mhz.....

[rickss69]

No, I mean in real life utilization...will one be able to game, surf, ect. any better than we now do? Heck, if nothing ever improved from what we have now I would still be satisfied... :taunt:

[Chuchnit]

Probably not much I don't think. Personally I think computers are so fast vs software that the only reason to buy new stuff is if you happen to be in the market for a new rig or benching. I just don't see a new cpu/mobo giving you a noticeable difference. Money could be better spent on ssd's or video cards.

[Witchdoctor]

I think game play will be like being in a movie one day ..... it is already getting close to that.

Hope Crysis 2 pushes the envelope ..... many new titles, it does not seem like they are really going after it ...

[Chuchnit]

I think game play will be like being in a movie one day ..... it is already getting close to that.

Hope Crysis 2 pushes the envelope ..... many new titles, it does not seem like they are really going after it ...

I'm buying Crysis 2 regardless if the game sucks or not. I'll buy for the sole fact that they are trying to push the envelope of PC gaming.


Back on topic, Sadly there are only a few new titles that really utilize more than two cores. This is where SB will shine in these games. I think when more and more games come out that support quads and above the advantage is taken away. Just like in the little review that was posted. BFBC2 taxes 4 cores and by doing that SB is no better than current 45nm s1156 quads.

[Neuromancer]

HW development begets software development.

Unfortunately HW Development also begets sloppy code writers that can make up for a lack of sophistication in their software by throwing straight MHz at it. A la Java and Flash based apps. But some games as well.

Honestly there really is no need to upgrade yet, but who can resist!! A good AM3/X58 setup is smokin right now :) I am sure P55 falls in there somewhere as well.

[DrNip]

3943

Glad to see the prices are within reason. I won't be able to play out the gate but my plans are about a month after release. Can't wait. 2600k definitely FTW. 2500k looks to be nice too and cheap.

[Hondacity]

wait for the z68...

[Chuchnit]

^is this chipset confirmed other than the one leaked slide? I sure hope so because I'd love to build one of these for a gamer.

[Neuromancer]

Sick! Guess Intel really wants to move some parts :) IF that is true pricing, awesome.

[Chuchnit]

Is anybody else watching this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4669646#post4669646)? Such a waist of good silicon if they don't have x65 or so multi on retail BIOS's.

[OC Maximus]

Hopefully its a bios maturity issue and things will get better as time goes on.

OCM :thumbsup:

[DrNip]

Is anybody else watching this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4669646#post4669646)? Such a waist of good silicon if they don't have x65 or so multi on retail BIOS's.

I tried to quit looking at anything Sandybridge as I won't be having the funds now for it anytime soon. :Dizzy:

[DrNip]

beware those with sandybridge linked is a thread from overclockers uk

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=18227652

Hi there


Right guys myself and our technical guys have spent the entire weekend and this morning in discussions with Intel regarding the alarming amount of reports of Sandybridge CPU's dying and have been conducting our own testing as have Intel to find out what is a definite no no.


Sandybridge maximum safe voltages

Core Voltage - Not recommended too exceed 1.38v, doing so could kill the CPU, we therefor recommend a range of 1.325-1.350v if overclocking.
Memory Voltage - Intel recommend 1.50v plus/minus 5% which means upto 1.58v is the safe recommended limit. In our testing we have found 1.65v has caused no issues.
BCLK Base Clock - This is strictly a NO, anyone using base clock overclocking could/will cause damange to CPU/Mainboard. (Set manually to 100)
PLL Voltage - Do not exceed 1.9v!!



Processor - Basically we recommend customers not to exceed 1.35v to play it safe, all our bundles are set at 1.3250v or lower, any competitors offering bundles above 4.6GHz you should be enquiring as to what voltage they are using as we believe anything over 1.38v will limit CPU lifespan and anything over 1.42v will likely kill the CPU or severely limit its lifespan.

Memory - Intel recommend 1.50v plus/minus 5% which means 1.60v is the ideal safe maximum, but we have found in our testing all 1.65v memory is fine. We have also found most new 1.65v like Corsair XMS3 will run at its rated timings with just 1.50-1.55v which is well within Intel specifications. So people upgrading to Sandybridge you can still use your old DDR3, but we do recommend you run it at 1.60v or less. We are shipping most of our bundles which feature Corsair XMS at 1.50v-1.55v at rated timings. We've also discussed with Asus and MSI regarding voltages for memory and they also confirm in their testing 1.65v caused no issues with reliability.

Base Clock - To put it simple if you value the life of your components, do not overclock using base clock!

PLL Voltage - Again do not exceed 1.9v!http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4699556&postcount=1

[Hondacity]

there was an asus mobo that was overvolting to 1.64v...even though it was set to 1.4v....weird

this was @ hardocp ....

only mobo i saw with voltage read points was msi gd-65.....

[Witchdoctor]

I am up in the air on a board.

But am hoping a Maximus Gene P67 makes an apprearance soon.

No big rush here but would like to get started towards the end of Janruary on this lan box

MC is out of on the cheap 2600K's right now so I will wait for them. I can get the case with the savings

If I go with a full size board the UD5/UD7 looks pretty dam sexy but expensive .... Waiting for some reviews to come out to see if a clear winner emerges. But would like to stay with a MicroATX if at all possible.

[Hondacity]

wd how much is the tax over there?

[DrNip]

Waiting until the end of Jan here myself on a mobo.

I believe tax is 6% there Honda.

[Witchdoctor]

wd how much is the tax over there?


yep 6% they are $ 296.97 with tax included

nip got his already. I have the first two that get restocked at MC

Let em know if you want the second one ..... can ship just the chip in a 6 dollar flat rate or the whole thing. I think it will fit in one of those $ 10 flat rate boxes ?

[Hondacity]

oooooh nice....ummm whats batch?

[Hondacity]

here's the batch guide...http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?p=88487#post88487

if its a L040xxxx its sold :D

[Witchdoctor]

I do not know and they don't tell you over the phone.

Once I get there they will check and pull what everone you request.

That being said each Micro Center was alocated 10 2600K CPU for launch.

They were gone before they opened. I would imagine there will not be many to choose from this first month or two as they are gone as soon as they get them. Funny as I was the the first two on the list when they get more but there wer 40 poeple behind me to get on the list too ..........

It was sureal, like being in line at a Stone's concert back in the day ..... :laughing:

[Hondacity]

are you going today?

[Witchdoctor]

No,

They are going to call me, but to make sure I am calling them everyday ..... :laughing:

Let em know

[Hondacity]

wooooot am i first in line? ocm might bite too :D

[OC Maximus]

:)

OCM :thumbsup:

[Witchdoctor]

Let me know guys I can try to get 3, but only have two reserved as of right now

[Kal-EL]

jeeze, almost 6ghz http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2134263_suicidephoenix_pifast_core_i7_2600k_12.36_ sec

[Splave]

crazy

[Cyberjackal]

yeah that's awesome!

[Chuchnit]

jeeze, almost 6ghz http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2134263_suicidephoenix_pifast_core_i7_2600k_12.36_ sec

Makes you wonder if 32m will be the new 1m when the big boy platform launches this fall?