ASUS Rampage Extreme III testing thread

[HITandRUN]

So the new hyped ASUS board is in my hands and I figured its time for a thread where we can share our experiences with it. First of all I have to say that I'm not too impressed with the quality of this board. Reading around the internet I found a few sources which were indicating that the placement of the TIM on the X58 and the southbridge were terrible. Well I took the sink off today and this is what came into the light. I thought the days of using this NOOB gluey gum are over. I guess not. :Dizzy: Also one of the screws was not screwed all the way in on the southbridge causing bad contact which you can see in the pics. Another thing is the X58 part of the sink. It looks like there is 3 threaded holes in the sink but only 2 screws were holding it in place. Can someone with this board check on this for me. I replaced the TIM and mounted a WC block. This is it for now. My new ram will be here on Friday so the initial testing follows during the weekend. :thumbsup:

Also the more I have been inspecting the including accessories the more I think this is a used board which was sold as new to by me the Egg. Accessory bags taped closed with regular office tape is not exactly stock. WTF Egg?

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BIOS settings by JOR-EL

Target CPU Frequency 4410MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1683MHz

LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled***

Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [21.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [21.0]
C1E Support [Enabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Enabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Enabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency [210]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [1683]
UCLK Frequency [3789]
QPI Link Data Rate [7579]

Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency 6 [6]
RAS# to CAS# Delay 7 [7]
RAS# PRE Time 6 [6]
RAS# ACT Time 18 [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay 4 [4]
REF Cycle Time 72 [72]
WRITE Recovery Time 12 [10]
READ to PRE Time 6 [6]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 24 [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]

Timing Mode 1N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA 60 [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHB 62 [62]
Round Trip Latency on CHC 64 [64]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control [Auto]
Load-Line Calibration [Full]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [1000kHz]

Extreme OV [Disabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.415 [1.41250]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.812 [Auto]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.310 [1.31250]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.654 [Auto]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.244 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto]

ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

***on-board jumper dependant
* courtesy of donmarkoni @ i4memory.com[/QUOTE]

[Splave]

there she is :)

I wouldn't be surprised by the egg after we all got seemingly used lightnings. Hey maybe you got my board from the contest, see if splave is etched in the back jk ;)

clock that sucka!

[Chuchnit]

What block did you put on it?

[HITandRUN]

What block did you put on it?

MCW30 (http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcw30.asp)

http://www.crystalfontz.com/backlight/forum/userscreen/JCWater2/5_MCW30.gif

[Kal-EL]

fingerprints on teh battery?

[HITandRUN]

fingerprints on teh battery?

Yeah lots of prints everywhere. I'll take this thing for a round of abuse and if she is not behaving I'll RMA it. :keeporder: Eraser ready and off we go.

[DrNip]

Wow, that's shitty man. For that price that thing better come out the box shining. Not all finger printed up. You might chat with Newegg about this and tell them about your experience. Chances are they will get another one out to you. Post up some shots of the BIOS when you can please.

[Kal-EL]

Update your first post with the bench session results and bump thread as necessary please.

And dayum those asshats. Opened my box, no prints anywhere, looks fully new.

[HITandRUN]

Wow, that's shitty man. For that price that thing better come out the box shining. Not all finger printed up. You might chat with Newegg about this and tell them about your experience. Chances are they will get another one out to you. Post up some shots of the BIOS when you can please.

Update your first post with the bench session results and bump thread as necessary please.

And dayum those asshats. Opened my box, no prints anywhere, looks fully new.

Testing coming up during the weekend and when I'm done with it I decide if its a keeper or not.

[Patch]

Mine looked new. My lightning sure didn't.

Guess I should have removed the sink before prepping, but I got lazy and really need to get to benching. Temps so far are great on "NB" and SB. Off to flash Fermi BIOS and play with ROG connect (now that I figured out I wasn't pressing the damn connect button next to to the connector......).

[HITandRUN]

Mine looked new. My lightning sure didn't.

Guess I should have removed the sink before prepping, but I got lazy and really need to get to benching. Temps so far are great on "NB" and SB. Off to flash Fermi BIOS and play with ROG connect (now that I figured out I wasn't pressing the damn connect button next to to the connector......).

Yeah I was reading the manual today. What do you using for the ROG connect? I have a Netbook with Bluetooth. I'll try to use that.

[Kal-EL]

I'm waiting on the I-phone app to come out.

[Patch]

Just using a dell studio laptop with the USB ROG connect. I don't really trust blue tooth to work well during razor's edge overclocking. Basically, it's evbot without having to meander through the menu. The post string also beats trying to decipher LCD codes. One thing inferior to evbot is that it locks you out during post/boot so you can't do on the fly tweaks to get you into Windows.

Alright. ROG connect works and thanks to Shannon I can give my 480 almost 1.4v.

Time to start prepping for cold. :D

[Kal-EL]

Good tid bit of info regarding post/boot :)

[Hondacity]

set your ramtimings well...also in xp use the delayed startup to manipulate settings..

[Splave]

I'm waiting on the I-phone app to come out.

its on the way :thumbsup:

You guys will notice that what you set in ROG connect sticks to your bios the next boot so if you where going for 6.2ghz superpi run and you bsod when you restart you will be booting at 6.2ghz so if you fail to boot thats why, gotta tone it down during post like honda said, delayed startup ftw.

[HITandRUN]

its on the way :thumbsup:

You guys will notice that what you set in ROG connect sticks to your bios the next boot so if you where going for 6.2ghz superpi run and you bsod when you restart you will be booting at 6.2ghz so if you fail to boot thats why, gotta tone it down during post like honda said, delayed startup ftw.

Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:

[Splave]

Anything for you henry! You geekin out this weekend or what? ;)

[Splave]

little heads up, there is a QPI LLC jumper by the 24pin :)

[Jor-El]

little heads up, there is a QPI LLC jumper by the 24pin :)


So should you move this to the non-stock position?

[Splave]

if you want qpi llc then yes, I would :)

[Jor-El]

Thanks man I have the new board, new GT and the SOC but didn't even bothered to open them yet... Need to cheer up and go back to benching!

[Patch]

Sounds like you got the happy juice right there.

I'm so excited about benching this weekend it feels like Christmas.....or the first day after the wifey's lady cycle ends.

[HITandRUN]

Anything for you henry! You geekin out this weekend or what? ;)

Yeah I'll try! You know I still have the remodeling going on and the wifey wont let me off the hook until its done but I got new toys so I'll have to hammer on something. :D

[Jor-El]

if you want qpi llc then yes, I would :)

Are these right? :

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8906/img0310v.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/img0310v.jpg/)


Getting there: :D

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7765/img0311ek.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/img0311ek.jpg/)

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[Chuchnit]

Curse you Jor!! Shame on you for bringing that pron in here :D

J/K man. Hope you rip it up!!

[Jor-El]

Curse you Jor!! Shame on you for bringing that pron in here :D

J/K man. Hope you rip it up!!

Well to catch Rom, Spla and Dent you have to bring out the big guns don't you!? :D

[Chuchnit]

Well to catch Rom, Spla and Dent you have to bring out the big guns don't you!? :D

Sure do, and if Kal will ever take vacation you better watch out!! I'm sure you'll do fine though. ;)

[Kal-EL]

Are these right? :

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Getting there: :D

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nice :good:

[Hondacity]

Thanks man I have the new board, new GT and the SOC but didn't even bothered to open them yet... Need to cheer up and go back to benching!

Are these right? :

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8906/img0310v.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/img0310v.jpg/)


Getting there: :D

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7765/img0311ek.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/img0311ek.jpg/)

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cheer up bro....once you're in top 20....oca will be there/here to cheer for you too :good:

**installation 90% complete....benching is imminent :)

[Jor-El]

Ok guys I want to set this thing (REXIII+980GT) for 5.8Ghz on Cascade w/ 6 threads tomorrow.

What should I be looking on these settings:
- Dram Freq.
- UCLK Freq.
- QPI Link Data Rate


- CPU Differential Amplitude
- CPU Clock Skew
- IOH Clock Skew

-----
Thanks!

[Jor-El]

Wow might have to tone it down on my Ghz wishes, tried to install OSes tonight without turning the cascade on temps where hitting 85c. I always installed Oses without turning the Cascade on up to date but guess these 980's are heat pumps.

[RomDominance]

If you wanna give me a call tomorrow bro, I will hook you up with my settings fosho!

[Jor-El]

BIOS 531 non official (if anyone wants to test) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P4C3X181)


Rom I will call you as soon as my Oses are installed :thumbsup:

[Splave]

- CPU Differential Amplitude

Jack it all the way up

"Increasing the CPU differential amplitude increases the noise immunity of the processor's reference clocks and indirectly increases the overclockability of the processor. Thus, if you face problems overclocking the processor, try increasing the CPU differential amplitude."

[GFDuke]

Subscribed to this thread. Mine comes Wed. I'll def need help. My Asus days are of old.

[Splave]

they just define some things differently, once you engrain what it is its as easy as the classy but more forgiving

[Jor-El]

First dumb question: how do I get the ROG connect working on my notebook?

What I did:

- installed Rog connect bundled software on my vista32 notebook;
- connected usb cable from notebook to usb rog connect port on the rampage;
- enabled rog connect on the bios.

All I get from the notebook is this:

[Hondacity]

press the button near the rog-usb

[Jor-El]

press the button near the rog-usb

Thanks Honda the RC POster is working now, but the RCtweakIt is still not coming up.

Do I need to install files on the Asus?

[Hondacity]

weird usually the rctweakit launches fine with me... reinstall?

[Jor-El]

Run as Admin did the trick!


This is awesome I need to buy a netbook just for these little gadgets!

[FACE]

- CPU Differential Amplitude

Jack it all the way up

"Increasing the CPU differential amplitude increases the noise immunity of the processor's reference clocks and indirectly increases the overclockability of the processor. Thus, if you face problems overclocking the processor, try increasing the CPU differential amplitude."

So is this the same as the "CPU Clock Skew" on the classy?

[Chuchnit]

So is this the same as the "CPU Clock Skew" on the classy?

Nope, clock skew is just what it says. You add a delay with the skew. I haven't tried it on the classy, but it worked wonders clocking the Rampage Extreme. Goddamnit I miss that board.

[Jor-El]

Skews made a big difference when I benched E8600+RE.

On the REiii I left all in Auto but we need to fine tune these settings for the 980GT.

[Jor-El]

Anyone else noticed that disabling the 980x cores on BIOS (Active cores: 2) makes the system unstable?

Saw other results on the Classi and this function works fine there.

[Splave]

when I disabled cores I got different cold bug temps, IE there was a cold bug when I disabled cores.

shouldnt be more unstable though

[Jor-El]

when I disabled cores I got different cold bug temps, IE there was a cold bug when I disabled cores.

shouldnt be more unstable though

In the REXiii same settings running 3d fine with 6 cores would give me BSOD on Windows load screen just because I used enable 2 cores only. Would like others with the board to check into that.

[Hondacity]

during load...on xp..it requires stability...what is your vcore? drop bclk?

[Splave]

should boot same speed though regardless of core number if anything 2 cores should be easier. sounds like an issue.

[Jor-El]

should boot same speed though regardless of core number if anything 2 cores should be easier. sounds like an issue.

The same EXACT thing happened to me with my Rampage Extreme and the E8600. All cores active great, 1 core active thousands of memtest errors just because I disabled a core...

[Patch]

I was unstable disabling cores on the 762. I haven't tried on the RIIIE yet.

I played with skews some on 762 and it never seemed to make much difference. Just the 100-300 range. Got no scaling so stopped trying. Haven't tried on R3E yet, but Bloodrage did much better with 200-300 on both CPU and IOH skew when high baseclocking with i7 920..

[Hondacity]

In the REXiii same settings running 3d fine with 6 cores would give me BSOD on Windows load screen just because I used enable 2 cores only. Would like others with the board to check into that.


on the core i5 -670.....

at first i only used 2 cores....because using 1 core..would bsod....

i patiently tried lower blcks and lower voltages...and then cranking everything up inside windows....using evbot ofcourse :D

2nd -i5-670 6.8ghz single core.....validated

can do super pi @ 6.7ghz but very low efficiency as compared to my golden i5-670...

[Patch]

Was somebody asking for more pron in this thread?

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5338/frozenr3e.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/frozenr3e.jpg/)

[Jor-El]

Nice one patch I have yet to Ln2 this board!

[GFDuke]

Did someone say pron? What are your thoughts on the NB fan that comes with it. Al could you pm me your phne#? I will most likely have questions that you could answer.

[Jor-El]

First Ln2 test last night: -100cbb 980x... You will need a torch for this mobo because when it's in cbb mode the volts won't warm up the chip like the Classified (p55).

That Asus Cold Boot Bug button that is next to the 8pin pwr connectors is useless, anyone tried it? It just restarts and gives you same cold boot 'cpu init hang'...

[Splave]

jor I used that button only when the reset button was unresponsive, IE instead of powering down completely

[Patch]

My experience has been the opposite, Jor.

My P55 Classy couldn't keep a chip colder than -120ish (tried 3 chips and re-did the CB mod X3).

R3E so far has gone down to -150 to -160 range on the same chip that my 762 bugged at -115. That "CBB" button isn't a life saver, but it has helped me. If I hit it fast enough it will sometimes boot in situations where I'd normally have to torch it.

[Hondacity]

latest bios from SF3D

http://sf3d.pp.fi/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-0534.rar

[HITandRUN]

latest bios from SF3D

http://sf3d.pp.fi/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-0534.rar

Thanks! :thumbsup:

[GFDuke]

I'm cold bugging at -140 my classy 759 was -155 and my cbb is the same as my classy 759 -115. It dosn't clock as well as my Classy does atm. probably cause of my noobness to the board. Still working on it.

So far i'm not liking it. my new 480 showed up today and If i can't get some decent clocks out of this board im gonna hve to go back to the Classy.

[Splave]

can you post up your bios settings duke?

[GFDuke]

Ok please take it easy on me i'm a Nvidia fanboy nt an Asus man by any means. The highest vcore i can get is 1.80?

[Splave]

digi power to x-mode
extreme OV enabled

to start :)

[Jor-El]

I was benching Vantage today and after a while mobo started to beep (pc speaker).

Is this condensation warning Splave?

[GFDuke]

Thanks I'll change that. I just tried to flash to the sf3d bios and i think something went wrong. Screen went blank in the middle of the flash, my monitor went to standby mode and nothing happened for about 5 min. So i did the stupidist thing and shut i down. I can't take anymore today. I tore it down, I'll hit it in the am. This thing is killing me. I'm wishing i bought a 762 right now. :confused2:

[Kal-EL]

oh damn :(

What's the flash procedure on this board anyways?

[Jor-El]

Duke this board has 2 bios and you can toggle between them on that red button (next to the bios chips). Just go to Bios #2 and reflash Bios #1.

[Hondacity]

Duke this board had 2 bios and you can toggle between them on that red button. Just go to Bios #2 and reflash Bios #1.

wow ...this is full proof stuff :D backup bios is super :D

[GFDuke]

I guess i didnt fuk it up. Checked the bios version and its the 0534. So all is well. I'm not as fed up today and things are going better.

[Splave]

duke, sorry I didnt get back to ya last night. My gf is done with her clinical internship and we where ummm partying. Will call ya this afternoon if thats good?

[GFDuke]

Sure man. I've got a 50th birhday party for my brother so i'll be gone at 5 till??? I'm installing Vista 32 right now.

[Splave]

actually maybe I will call you tomorrow, just got notice my board is here and ready to pick up at fedex. I will fiddle with it tonight so I can be more of a help, kinda relearn it a bit if thats cool :)

[GFDuke]

Yea man thats cool. I have a few more OS's i have to do anyway.

[Jor-El]

HITandRun could you ad to the first post:


Target CPU Frequency 4410MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1683MHz

LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled***

Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [21.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [21.0]
C1E Support [Enabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Enabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Enabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency [210]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [1683]
UCLK Frequency [3789]
QPI Link Data Rate [7579]

Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency 6 [6]
RAS# to CAS# Delay 7 [7]
RAS# PRE Time 6 [6]
RAS# ACT Time 18 [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay 4 [4]
REF Cycle Time 72 [72]
WRITE Recovery Time 12 [10]
READ to PRE Time 6 [6]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 24 [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]

Timing Mode 1N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA 60 [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHB 62 [62]
Round Trip Latency on CHC 64 [64]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control [Auto]
Load-Line Calibration [Full]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [1000kHz]

Extreme OV [Disabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.415 [1.41250]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.812 [Auto]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.310 [1.31250]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.654 [Auto]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.244 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto]

ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

***on-board jumper dependant
* courtesy of donmarkoni @ i4memory.com

[HITandRUN]

HITandRun could you ad to the first post:


Done sir! Firts post modified with the BIOS settings! :thumbsup:

[Jor-El]

Done sir! Firts post modified with the BIOS settings! :thumbsup:

Thank you my friend, now we can share BIOS settings! :thumbsup:

[Splave]

I Really like this board :)

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1189116
Water (not pushing past 1.45 on water)


Target CPU Frequency 4883MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1576MHz

LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled***

Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [31.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [31.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Disabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency [158]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [1576]
UCLK Frequency [3258]
QPI Link Data Rate [4.8mt/s]

Memory Configuration Protect [enabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency 6 [8]
RAS# to CAS# Delay 7 [8]
RAS# PRE Time 6 [8]
RAS# ACT Time 18 [24]
RAS# to RAS# Delay 4 [auto]
REF Cycle Time 72 [88]
WRITE Recovery Time 12 [auto]
READ to PRE Time 6 [auto]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 24 [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]

Timing Mode 1N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA 60 [auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHB 62 [auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHC 64 [auto]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [1000]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control [7v]
Load-Line Calibration [50%]
CPU Voltege OCP [Disabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [800kHz]

Extreme OV [Disabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.415 [1.442]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.812 [1.808]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.310 [1.400]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.654 [1.683]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.244 [1.202]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [auto]

ICH Voltage 1.111 [1.202]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

***on-board jumper dependant


Full LLC cause a bit of overvolt for me, 50% seems good. PWR volt control over 8v not necessary on water. Will try some higher bclk stuff and report back.

[HITandRUN]

I Really like this board :)

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1189116
Water (not pushing past 1.45 on water)

Full LLC cause a bit of overvolt for me, 50% seems good. PWR volt control over 8v not necessary on water. Will try some higher bclk stuff and report back.

Nice Al! I'll be getting to it next week so all this stuff in this thread will be very helpful. :thumbsup: Got to RMA that dying Classy! :keeporder:

[Splave]

here is 250bclk lol I boot at 245
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1189325


also 130 PCI-E ftw


If we ever get a locked multi 6c12t chip, this board is totally win for it :thumbsup:
250x25=6.2 and change. We can dream right? :laughing:

[Kal-EL]

You mean like a 970?

[Patch]

I like this board too.

Splave, why you using setfsb when you have ROG connect? Does it add some secret sauce?

[Splave]

nope Im using the OC station
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/23/asus-introduces-rog-oc-station-for-all-your-on-the-fly-overclock/

Just popped up setFSB to show proper clock generator and pci-e speed :)

[GFDuke]

Dayum where'd ya get that? rig is torn down again bro. I had some mouniting problems this am and i'm doin up the new 480 atm. I should be back up sometime this afternooon. Shall i give you a call?

[Kal-EL]

Dayum where'd ya get that? rig is torn down again bro. I had some mouniting problems this am and i'm doin up the new 480 atm. I should be back up sometime this afternooon. Shall i give you a call?

Don't you just hate the prep work? I do, thought I was gonna be up and fermi'ng by midnight, its 6 a.m. now and I just finished. Stupid nvidiot screw heads are soft as hell and I stripped one taking off the h/s, had to drill teh sucker out. La dee freekin dah.

[FACE]

here is 250bclk lol I boot at 245
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1189325


also 130 PCI-E ftw


If we ever get a locked multi 6c12t chip, this board is totally win for it :thumbsup:
250x25=6.2 and change. We can dream right? :laughing:

That's exactly what I'm looking for.... bclk = win. I wonder if these will pwn lower multi chips like 920' and 930's.....

:thumbsup: Looks like I get to learn a new bios.. :D

[Jor-El]

Anyone tested latest bios yet? If so what is the difference between the new and the 'old' 531 I'm on?

[Splave]

im using 534 and love it :)

PS talked to jerry, (great talking to ya bro) and we got the board sorted. Expect some killer results in this thread from him laters!

[Jor-El]

i
PS talked to jerry, (great talking to ya bro) and we got the board sorted. Expect some killer results in this thread from him laters!

Hummmmm I need to talk to you again Splave I wanna know what should I do to get 4s and 17s loop1 and loop2 on Spi32m :thumbsup:

Have family over visiting so it will need to wait a little.

[Splave]

anytime after 5:30 EST, anytime friend. Hope to get some cold going tomorrow or tonight on this baby. I can be of more service then Im sure.

[GFDuke]

Thanks for the help Al. Your knowedge is indespensible (sp?). It was good to talk to yu and i look frward t more communication in the future. Especially a weekend of benching together. We will talk about that soon. Well i managed to pull out a better pifast score 13.78 already. I had a 13.75 but it bsod on me when i took the ss. No biggie theeres more time and i have 100 liters of ln2 still. Still working on prime scores. But things are much much better now that i know WHERE THE DAM VTT IS!!! LOL Its nt easy being a EVGA guy and going to an Asus board.

[Patch]

Nice score!

[GFDuke]

Thanks. Its the fastest ive ever been able to run my 980 for pifast. I'm pretty sure with more work i can do better. All trial and error for me at this point now.

[Kal-EL]

Sick ass speeds Duke, everyone turning all pro on my ass here, excellent job!

[Hondacity]

gfduke r3e better than 760/762?

[GFDuke]

Better? idk. I've only owned the 759 and it's a super tough guy. To be honest it's the best board i've ever owned. Not to many 759's can keep up with it. It's hard to say at this point if this board is better. I totally wanted to trash it when i first got it. It was total confusion. But i will say it feels stable as hell now that i've been tutored by Al on it. After some more benching i'll be able to answer that question better.

[Splave]

holy shit! if you were cas 7 you would have beaten my score. Great work, seems like your rollin now, just needed me to translate the freakin weird names in the bios lol. Awesome bro

[GFDuke]

You mean like this? lol I hit a nice prime 1024 today too. I'm starting to like this board.
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1005092_gfduke_pifast_core_i7_980x_13.64_sec
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1005097_gfduke_wprime_1024m_core_i7_980x_1min_26se c_780ms

[Witchdoctor]

Freaking sick Gerry .... :thumbsup:

That Asus seems to be agreeing with you bro ............. :clapping:

Nice work man

[GFDuke]

Thanks Bri. It feels good to get some positive results. I'v been struggling to get something psitiv going for 2 weeks and about 150 liters of Ln2. thank god we have a support team around here like Rom and Splave.
Time for a new keyboard this one just sucks balls. So many times a letter is missing in my typing. I'm tired of having to edit every post i make.

[Jor-El]

Thanks Bri. It feels good to get some positive results. I'v been struggling to get something psitiv going for 2 weeks and about 150 liters of Ln2. thank god we have a support team around here like Rom and Splave.
Time for a new keyboard this one just sucks balls. So many times a letter is missing in my typing. I'm tired of having to edit every post i make.

Duke that was simple amazing! :thumbsup: Mind sharing the BIOS template on PM?

I would love to push my cpu passed 6Ghz.

What's you CBB and CB?

[GFDuke]

Isn't there a bios template around here somewhere? I wouldn't mind posting it up.

CBB -115c I havn't found the CB on this board really yet. On my Classy it was -155. It's probably gonna be around the same. I was benching those runs at -140

[Jor-El]

Isn't there a bios template around here somewhere? I wouldn't mind posting it up.

CBB -115c I havn't found the CB on this board really yet. On my Classy it was -155. It's probably gonna be around the same. I was benching those runs at -140

Duke template is on the first post just copy and past under code strings...

[GFDuke]

Ok i see it. I'll be setting the board up again tomorrow night. I'll put it up then.

[Splave]

board is a dream!

couple pointers, My CB is -160C unless I have 6c12t active then there is no cold bug. For pifast to complete sometimes I ran it 4 times on the same boot getting computation errors then it would find a good core and pass


382k aq3 with stock cooler on the 280 is good for 5th hw wise :laughing:

will update template with my settings. Tired, time for bed.

[RomDominance]

Nice work Romdog, you go sleepin now....oh after the rave reviews you and Dukester gave it, I am eye'n that RE3 fosho, Sligdaddy!

[HITandRUN]

Nice run Al! The clock is insane! :thumbsup:

[GFDuke]

Yup super job there. I see you are running 1T. Think i'll give that a go. You could probably take out my Prime 1024 score too.
Romdom i think you would love this board man.

[Gutterz]

This board is a pita my opinion. We got this luv hate thing kikin, she's a bitch thow.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/staticx04/pi1430.jpg

[Splave]

lol thats mind blowing guttz seriously

[Kal-EL]

This board is a pita my opinion. We got this luv hate thing kikin, she's a bitch thow.



Show off ;)

[GFDuke]

Nice run Gutz. :thumbsup:

EK Full cover waterblock is now available.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_241_589&products_id=27922

Ordered up.

[Kal-EL]

Nice run Gutz. :thumbsup:

EK Full cover waterblock is now available.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_241_589&products_id=27922

Ordered up.

Wow, can't believe how much a damn chipset blocks costs these days.

[FACE]

Kick ass, Gutterz... 6ghz FTW!

@ Splave... loving the Watermark... can I get a template of that? :laughing:

[GFDuke]

Wow, can't believe how much a damn chipset blocks costs these days.

Yes but it was worth it on my classy and this board runs even hotter. worth it imo

[Gutterz]

Ill have to check mine while im benching. When I first got it I was doing 4.5 air an I wasnt breaking 40c on NB.

I do like the DMM hook ups it comes with. I can watch my Cpu vcore fluctuate during test an see what realy going on. Cpuz dont show correct voltage it always shows it higher an bios incriments are on an way off for vcore too.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/staticx04/GEDC1532.jpg

[Splave]

Kick ass, Gutterz... 6ghz FTW!

@ Splave... loving the Watermark... can I get a template of that? :laughing:

yes but its going to cost ya

[FACE]

yes but its going to cost ya

rofl, I can't afford such fine artwork.

Gotta snag one of these boards soon. Beastliness to the max! :ohcrap:

[Splave]

you guys using the optional beefed up NB attachment? I gotta remember to slap that sucker on before I remount my f1

[Gutterz]

Yes Im using the atatchment. I had a bad night lastnight board wasnt cooperating. An for sum reason this session a had a cold bug at -160 :( an before I didnt.

I did manage to get this Pifast score, Same score as Patch. I dont know why it nocked him down since he had the score first.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/staticx04/pi1402.jpg

[Patch]

you guys using the optional beefed up NB attachment? I gotta remember to slap that sucker on before I remount my f1

I use it. My NB temps are in the low 30's.

Yes Im using the atatchment. I had a bad night lastnight board wasnt cooperating. An for sum reason this session a had a cold bug at -160 :( an before I didnt.

I did manage to get this Pifast score, Same score as Patch. I dont know why it nocked him down since he had the score first.



The cool guys are in the 14.02 club. :cool3:

[Hondacity]

0602 bios

higher mem clocks?

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1366/Rampage_III_Extreme/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-0602.zip

[Jor-El]

Wow this board keeps getting better and better:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1203185
*thanks nanok&noxon (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4402475&postcount=1)

[DrNip]

Wow!

[Splave]

nice what bios?

[Jor-El]

nice what bios?

He used 602.

[Kal-EL]

Gone Fishing.......................................

[Hondacity]

with extremely low temps...
cpu pwm 500 - super degraded vcore control
cpu pwm 750 - just bad
cpu pwm 1000 - almost ok

mobo is very stable...but with ln2 1000kHz is needed..

cooling x58 chipset sorta helps....

[Hondacity]

**prior post was ht off....

guys clockin on this board how is your vcore drop on ht load...?

during 6c12t...we were pulling 750w from the wall!!! that was with a puny videocard...dunno if the ripples were so bad...

leaky cpu....dunno if the vregs were capable...

i love the rog connect but i'm questioning now the power circuit...

feedback please

thanks

[Splave]

what type of LLC where you using? rofl what where you benching when you hit 750w? wprime?

[GFDuke]

Ok gotta start talking Asus here. I had a cpu-z of 6685mhz this am. But after i did the save validation file it bs'd on me and even though it did save the validation it won't submit. Running 35X 191 and I was at 1.87 vcore, 1.56 qpi (vtt in EVGA terms), PCIe was at 106, i had the cpu pll at 1.92 and i was running the ram and uncore real low to avoid any problems there. Ram voltage was 1.68. I can achieve this speed pretty much anytime i want but for some reason it just crashes when i try to save the validation file. It sounds to me like there is some little bump i need somewhere but i just can't figure out what it is. And i'm getting a litte annoyed. Any ideas? I've tried to bump the vcore but its still the same and more QPI (vtt) dosn't seem to help either. Am i running my VTT to high? Would more pcie help and how much more?

I've even dropped down to 6650mhz but i get the same problem.
Bench temps are at around -130 to -140
I'm on my Splaver bios settings.

[GFDuke]

Heres the deal. I'm using ROG to bump up after i get into windows.


BIOS settings by Duke Via Splave

Target CPU Frequency 5845MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1339MHz

LN2 Mode: Enabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Enabled***

Sync Mode [Disabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [35.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [35.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Disabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency [167]
PCIE Frequency [103]
DRAM Frequency [1339]
UCLK Frequency [3683]
QPI Link Data Rate [6027]

Memory Configuration Protect [Enabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency 9 [6]
RAS# to CAS# Delay 9 [7]
RAS# PRE Time 9 [6]
RAS# ACT Time 24 [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay 5 [4]
REF Cycle Time 88 [72]
WRITE Recovery Time 10 [10]
READ to PRE Time 7 [6]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 20 [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]

Timing Mode 2N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA Auto [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHB Auto [62]
Round Trip Latency on CHC Auto [64]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [1000]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [X-Power]
PWR Volt. Control [10V]
Load-Line Calibration [Full]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [1000kHz]

Extreme OV [Enabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.72 [1.41250]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.90 [Auto]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.55 [1.31250]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.68 [Auto]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.20 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.6165 [Auto]

ICH Voltage 1.205 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage 1.60325

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

***on-board jumper dependant
* courtesy of donmarkoni @ i4memory.com[/QUOTE]

[Kal-EL]

Thx for posting this Dukester, RE3 boot up is emminant here.

Speaking losely cuz I've had 3 dewars filled with fail sauce, upping pce/mhz would relieve the slow mouse action when pushing blck on the 762 board (failure x2 now) so maybe it might help stability? pinch vdimm too, can't hurt till around 1.8vdimm me thinks.

I dunno, wanna puke at that cpu speed :P

[Hondacity]

6.6 @ -140

thats just not cold enough?

even on a clarkdale thats just not cold enough for the frequency...

just my opinion...

[Hondacity]

what type of LLC where you using? rofl what where you benching when you hit 750w? wprime?

yeah wprime...

llc full load line cal...

i'm thinking the mobo isn't stable...

[Kal-EL]

I'd pinch ioh voltatge a bit too but I'm not splave.

[GFDuke]

You're welcome Kal. I've been meaning to post that up but when the board is up i usually have one thing in mind. BOT!!!
Like 1.25? And i did read hondas post on the live stream. 2 sticks of ram would be better?

[Kal-EL]

If it gets you colder, who knows? maybe 7ghz?

[Patch]

1) That's crazy brave QPI imo. I've been scared to go above 1.475 after crippling my A0.
2) I run IOH at 1.35-1.4 regularly, but I have one of the weird good temp R3E's. Never seen NB temps in the 40's.
3) Try benching with internet access and submit your validation instead of saving it. On Cedar Mills I could always directly submit higher CPUz's than I could save to a hard drive.

[Splave]

I had cpu pll up to 2.015 for my valids at the compo

[Hondacity]

5/31/2010 bios 0702 is out...

i dont have download link...anybody have some?

[Hondacity]

http://www.mediafire.com/?i2zyy2dgxmw

702.... difficult downloading it....lots of traffic i would think

[Splave]

Rampage III Extreme

BIOS 0704

1. Added additional memory options (tRFC settings) to improve overclocking
2. Enable support for "Subzero Booster" for improved LN2 overclocking capabilities
3. Enabled additional CPU support for CPU Level Up functionality
4. Improved 3D performance at stock settings
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3ncuiagknz/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-0704.rar

(from XS)

[Hondacity]

subzero booster...sounds like more power :D

file isn't available? after clicking on the liink

http://www.mediafire.com/?g3ncuiagknz this works

[Splave]

fixed

[GFDuke]

Do you knw if the CB is still gone with this bios?

[Hondacity]

i heard 904 is coming....or brian was drunk lol...

[Splave]

Do you knw if the CB is still gone with this bios?

not sure, Ive never had CB on my retail but I plan on flashing to 704 before I bench today :thumbsup:

[GFDuke]

I'm pretty sure you need to stay away from that bios. I think it killed 2 chips on me this am.

[Hondacity]

andreYang is using 704 when he shift the universes rotational frequency..

[Kal-EL]

Where does Andre buy his chips from anyway?

[thebanik]

Does he only buy? or he gets trays to test and keep as well??

[Splave]

lets get back on topic guys

[Splave]

http://www.mediafire.com/?iywxuzinmy0

802 bios

[sofos1990]

Has anyone test the "subzero booster" option on 0704 ?

[Splave]

Yes mode 1 is supposed to help a bit so I have heard. I tried it and didnt seem to make a difference

[Hondacity]

thanks for the 802 :D

damn media fire pops up alot of windows...

[Hondacity]

mode1 sorta helps..i'll try the other mode...i wish they have some infobits about the modes

[Splave]

I know right? remember the overclock mode has mode 1 and 2 and auto. We asked the bios engineer and he had no clue it was even there.

[GFDuke]

Any specific changes with the new bios that you know of?

[Splave]

not quite sure what they changed

[Hondacity]

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Note - Uncore setting will now scale with BCLK settings when set to Auto. Manual settings will be required when running BCLKs over 220 to ensure stability and improved BCLK rates.

Note - LN2 Modes might need to be adjusted to improve cold clocking capabilities. Auto = LN2 mode 2, setting to LN2 Mode 1 will result in potentially better overclocking below -140C. This is dependent upon CPU quality and cooling.

[Splave]

good lookin out honda

[Jor-El]

My cpu liked 704 better.

"Note - Uncore setting will now scale with BCLK settings when set to Auto. Manual settings will be required when running BCLKs over 220 to ensure stability and improved BCLK rates.

Note - LN2 Modes might need to be adjusted to improve cold clocking capabilities. Auto = LN2 mode 2, setting to LN2 Mode 1 will result in potentially better overclocking below -140C. This is dependent upon CPU quality and cooling. "

Wish I had one that would get that cold. On my second GT now both 3003B and 3005F CBugged around -110 to -113 I can barely bench at those temps.

Will have to try a 3rd time :thumbdown:

[Hondacity]

did you try only 2 sticks of ram?

cb is somehow affected by ram....

ram voltage.....steponz is using 1.8v+ on his gtx2....lmao...it seems to help
ram channels....we used channel 2 and channel 3...and it sorta removes cb

[Jor-El]

did you try only 2 sticks of ram?

cb is somehow affected by ram....

ram voltage.....steponz is using 1.8v+ on his gtx2....lmao...it seems to help
ram channels....we used channel 2 and channel 3...and it sorta removes cb

Yep I tried 1x2x&3x no luck ram doesn't help my CB only my CBB. Tried all BIOSes too.

I don't wanna kill my good old i5 ram's (GSkill perfect storm) w/ 1.9vdimm they are rare I might try with my new sticks.

After a certain vdimm I'm sure they will throw errors.

[Hondacity]

we tried slot 2 and slot 3.(4gb)...no cb

[Jor-El]

we tried slot 2 and slot 3.(4gb)...no cb


Will give that a shot only tried 1&2... (closest to the cpu and the middle slot).

Does S.pi32m lose a lot of performance from triple channel to dual channel?

[Hondacity]

yes...

sp32m creates large files....it utilizes big big ram...

if you check moa eu finals..they onlly had 3gb..and their results were bad...


i'll try 12gb for sp32 :D

[Jor-El]

yes...

sp32m creates large files....it utilizes big big ram...

if you check moa eu finals..they onlly had 3gb..and their results were bad...


i'll try 12gb for sp32 :D


So I can't really try the dual channel (cb/cbb trick) then if I want to go after spi32m...

[Hondacity]

yes the cb trick was more for 3d runs...

for sp32m you'll have to disable the other cores...and prolly play with ram ref voltages...

[Chuchnit]

yes...

sp32m creates large files....it utilizes big big ram...

if you check moa eu finals..they onlly had 3gb..and their results were bad...


i'll try 12gb for sp32 :D

Not true, not true. When we use maxmem we are limiting the amount of memory windows can use. There was some discussion about densities on DDR3 and 2GB just seems to be the sweet spot just like 1GB was for DDR2. I'm no memory expert though and only understood a sliver of that conversation. What I do know is that 12gb is gonna give you poop timings and mhz vs running 6GB due to IMC stress. If what you said was true about volume of memory XP 32-bit and 2003 server 32-bit wouldn't be the choice for super pi. ;)

So I can't really try the dual channel (cb/cbb trick) then if I want to go after spi32m...

You can, but you are gonna loose some efficiency. From some very very limited dual channel testing I found that you loose ~400-800k pp (I think these #'s are right.) going from triple to dual channel. That is with the same exact uncore though. One other reason to go dual channel, or give it a try atleast, is to take some stress off the IMC and let the uncore run loose. You may be able to gain several 100mhz by dropping a channel which could make up for the lost performance product and then some. Look at Gutterz's i7 960 runs. Those were all in dual channel. He just made up for it with tweaking and retarded uncore speeds. :clapping:



yes the cb trick was more for 3d runs...

for sp32m you'll have to disable the other cores...and prolly play with ram ref voltages...

Do you have any links explaining ram ref volts? I have yet to find anything, but honestly haven't searched too much (yet). It's just that I've never seen it mentioned anywhere before. I was about to ask about this since the option is there on the UD6 and was wondering for a good starting point.

[Hondacity]

Not true, not true. When we use maxmem we are limiting the amount of memory windows can use. There was some discussion about densities on DDR3 and 2GB just seems to be the sweet spot just like 1GB was for DDR2. I'm no memory expert though and only understood a sliver of that conversation. What I do know is that 12gb is gonna give you poop timings and mhz vs running 6GB due to IMC stress. If what you said was true about volume of memory XP 32-bit and 2003 server 32-bit wouldn't be the choice for super pi. ;)



you can control how much xp need for memory. but you can't control how cpu address the memory.

so its 6gb vs 12gb :D

damn todo list is growing

[Chuchnit]

you can control how much xp need for memory. but you can't control how cpu address the memory.

so its 6gb vs 12gb :D

damn todo list is growing

You pick the timings, OS, tweaks, and all the random mhz's. I'll run 6GB and you run 12GB. It will be within margin of error I'm betting. That is if you pick a mhz and timings that you can run with all the dimm slots populated. This would make more since if we were arguing about 3x4GB vs 3x2Gb that are super bin IC's. Care to explain more about the cpu memory addressing vs windows? I just don't see how the CPU can/will address more than windows says to once you are in the operating system?


Honda what about vdimm ref volts? Do you have any data about those? Is there a starting point like with gtl's and such?

[Hondacity]

ill test it myself...that way there is not much error comparing data....i mean i could install xp in 10minutes and tweak a little....then run sp32 with 6gb and 12gb....

[Chuchnit]

ill test it myself...that way there is not much error comparing data....i mean i could install xp in 10minutes and tweak a little....then run sp32 with 6gb and 12gb....

I'm just bustin' chops and making friendly competition man. Hell I hope you are right and we find another advantage as a team for super pi. I still challenge you to a dual though :D

[Hondacity]

we still have pifast challenge :D

[Chuchnit]

we still have pifast challenge :D

Shoot that's not even a challenge. I'm just giving you guys time before I break your morale. :P

[Hondacity]

what morale? i call it...a todo list... :D

weekend pifast for sure..just so i'll be done with it

[Splave]

im dieing to get my 980x back :(

[sofos1990]

Damn ! My cpu died today on R3E :(
1.68 vtt and 2.2 vdimm :p :)

[Chuchnit]

Damn ! My cpu died today on R3E :(
1.68 vtt and 2.2 vdimm :p :)

Suckos man. May it rest in piece. Now lets hope you get one of those killer CPU's back from RMA dept. :thumbsup:

[Hondacity]

sofos1990

is the high vdimm the trick to push the cb? or push the imc to work better?

i know someone doing 1.5vtt with 2vdimm but didn't help much...

[sofos1990]

depends the cpu
I was trying to bench 1M at 6050 but always failed so I decided to push vtt and vdimm . I set vtt at 1.55V and vdimm at 1.91V . Cpu scaled well at least I could run 1M at 6020 so I pushed the voltages a little more ( 1.68vtt and 2.2 vdimm ) but no change . There is a weird situation with Gulftowns and 1M that's why I was pushing the voltages .
Dunno if it's the trick to push the cb at lower temps cause my chip was cb-free but with dual channel, triple channel for me was the same . Though many guys push vtt and vdimm to avoid cb with triple channel dunno if it really helps.

[Hondacity]

thanks sofos alittle info goes a long ways

[Nub]

Hey guys, my first post, just stopped in to check out your Forum, I have seen some of you at XS and thought I would have a look around. Very nice and informative place.:thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

Hey guys, my first post, just stopped in to check out your Forum, I have seen some of you at XS and thought I would have a look around. Very nice and informative place.:thumbsup:
Welcome to the forum Nub :thumbsup:

[Nub]

Thank you.

[Splave]

good to see you here nub! :)

[Nub]

Thank you Splave. A very nice forum you guys have here.

[Hondacity]

woooot Nub in the house!!!

welcome here bud....

[Splave]

OPB says LN2 mode 2 for colder than -135 bloomfield, overclocking mode 1 for higher uncore and mem speed

[Jor-El]

Thank you Splave. A very nice forum you guys have here.


Welcome Nub my friend! I'm glad you found your way to a house that only care about Overclocking and helping others!

[Hondacity]

OPB says LN2 mode 2 for colder than -135 bloomfield, overclocking mode 1 for higher uncore and mem speed


thanks......saving into my 980x tweak blog :D

[Nub]

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome! Glad to have found this also Elano.

[Nub]

i am stuck at 215 bclk with my 920do. the chip is stable on my other board at 227x21 ht disabled and boot at 231 easy. only way to go up is using slow mode on the re3, but i need it for 3d. has anyone had any luck with bloomfield on this board?

[Jor-El]

Wow this board keeps getting better and better:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1203185
*thanks nanok&noxon (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4402475&postcount=1)


^ Nub check this post, this guy got up to 269blck on the 920.

Worth asking him for some BIOS templates:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4402475#post4402475

[Hondacity]

above 220blcks you need subzero....

[Jor-El]

above 220blcks you need subzero....

He stated he was booting 231 on H2O with his Gigabyte so I believe it would be doable on water on the R3X too?.

[Hondacity]

still t0o high..for stable clocks.

water or air doesn't remove the heat inside the ihs...

blck scaling: pcie, temp, and vtt..these three affects blcks above 220....

[Nub]

Thanks, i will try and PM him about a template.i can boot at 237 on this chip with the rex3 with slowmode but it kills any 3d benches or gaming.

board acts weird with 3 bloomfield chips, anything above 215 boot in slow motion, text on bios screen posts really slow and the windows load screen does the same. cpuz takes 1 minute to open and also is like slomotion to open. very unstable.

[Nub]

still t0o high..for stable clocks.

water or air doesn't remove the heat inside the ihs...

blck scaling: pcie, temp, and vtt..these three affects blcks above 220....


On my ud7 the chip has been running between 4500mhz ht enabled and 4700mhz ht disabled for months, both oc's pass long blend runs and linx along with many other benchmarks and hours of gaming. temps never exceed 70c in linx.

[Hondacity]

that was max stable right? anything above those...are not stable? if so...


...its like reaching the top...once reaching the top its usually downhill from there...

if you pop that cpu into the gb mobo....i wonder how it would do... the higher the clocks tha faster the degradation usually...

[Nub]

that was max stable right? anything above those...are not stable? if so...


...its like reaching the top...once reaching the top its usually downhill from there...

if you pop that cpu into the gb mobo....i wonder how it would do... the higher the clocks tha faster the degradation usually...

4760ish was max stable no ht, 4620 was max stable with ht enabled but with heavy ac on the rad, but ran it at 4500. wanted to run some 3d at higher mhz for a game, BC2 to try and get my fps up. my 5870's are not working well in bf2 so i am using gtx260's and with smoke/fog and snow in certain spots my fps take a big hit. im sure the chips at its limit, had hoped to be able to get a little higher on this board, but maybe it is better geared towards gulftown.
I have put the chip back in the ud7 to make sure it wasnt the chip going bad but it runs like a champ at the same settings. was even able to lower vcore a couple notches with some tweaking. i just installed the 960, so bclk wont ba an issue but this chip just didnt clock as well as the 920. maybe i am asking to much of these chips but worth a shot.

Thanks for the reply.

[Splave]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4468899&postcount=93

Im interested in the 2d booster beta

[Chuchnit]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4468899&postcount=93

Im interested in the 2d booster beta

I saw that over there. Then I thought about you trying it out ;)

[Splave]

hahaha will do, will hit the GF with a tranq dart when I get home so I Get some time to bench. Prepped and ready to go, mounted the f1 on my lunchie

[Chuchnit]

hahaha will do, will hit the GF with a tranq dart when I get home so I Get some time to bench. Prepped and ready to go, mounted the f1 on my lunchie

hehehe you might as well get a quickie while she's all roofied up :P :ohcrap:

[Splave]

noted

[Hondacity]

hmmm i like the idea of the speed booster...thanks

[GFDuke]

hehehe you might as well get a quickie while she's all roofied up :P :ohcrap:

Pretty sure thats the tranquilizer dart. lol

[Kal-EL]

Updated 07/13/2010 -
Rampage III Extreme

BIOS 0860

1. Added additional memory enhancements
2. Enable official support for ROG Expander Board
3. Improved 3D performance at stock settings

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gi2zr0...-ASUS-0860.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/file/gi2zr0zynmj/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-0860.rar)
Note - Uncore setting will now scale with BCLK settings when set to Auto. Manual settings will be required when running BCLKs over 220 to ensure stability and improved BCLK rates.

Note - LN2 Modes might need to be adjusted to improve cold clocking capabilities. Auto = LN2 mode 2, setting to LN2 Mode 1 will result in potentially better overclocking below -140C. This is dependent upon CPU quality and cooling.

BETA BIOS 9124

1. Added 2D SpeedBooster option for GulfTown owners
2. Enable proper memory table reporting in 3rd party applications
3. Improved 3D performance
4. Tweaked LN2 Mode settings

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zjm3md...-ASUS-9124.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zjm3mdnzjwn/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-9124.rar)

Note - 2D SpeedBooster option is for non-3D applications like SuperPI, WPrime, and other programs that benefit from enabling CPUMicroCode ignore flags in the BIOS. Enabling this option will improve 2D application scores but will decrease 3D performance. We highly suggest disabling this feature for any 3D applications or benchmarking.

Note - This BIOS is still in Beta state and is released for those needing additional performance in 2D applications. We will have a final qualified version with improved memory and 3D performance shortly.



Beta BIOS Releases in Validation Testing as of 7/12/2010-
Maximus III Extreme (Audio, Memory)
P6T series (980x, Microcode, Memory)
P6T6 WS Revolution (Microcode)
P6X58D Premium (Microcode, Memory)
P7P55 series (enhancements)
P7H55 series (enhancements)


If your board is not on the list, it does not mean we are not looking at improvements, just that we have not reached beta release and validation test process.
Thats some interesting stuff!

[Hondacity]

asus is lucky to made the r3e so tweakable...now all they're doing is bios revisions after revisions... i'll wait awhile till they polish it some more

[Splave]

860 was what I was using with my new 980, ln2 mode 1 didnt help :( theres no helping a dud

Also Ive read 3d performance is increased, and 2d performance is decreased when benching vantage and 06

[Kal-EL]

Tried the asus bios update utility, it doesnt work = false marketing
Tried the asus software cpu level up oc tool, it worked, cheeseball multiplier bump to 30 and vcore bump to 1.36, lol, I'm rolling noob dirty on the oc, hahaha.

Asus Xonar cooked, me sad :(

[Witchdoctor]

Tried the asus bios update utility, it doesnt work = false marketing
Tried the asus software cpu level up oc tool, it worked, cheeseball multiplier bump to 30 and vcore bump to 1.36, lol, I'm rolling noob dirty on the oc, hahaha.

Asus Xonar cooked, me sad :(


Just sve the BIOS to a file

then direct the ASUS update utility to the file and wola ....

I love it ... but hard to beat the eVGA flash form a CD ....

sucks on the hardware bro ... Posted a stop gap in that thread for ya

[Hondacity]

anandtech and asus r3e

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3851/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-sdram-memory-but-were-afraid-to-ask/8

something worth looking into...

this weekend i might have time to delve into these new bios options..

[Kriztoffer]

Hey. I got this RE3.

But I'm really confused with many of the settings on the board, could you gyts help me out a bit? I've only been on phonix bios in my i7 carrier. Mostly EVGA.

Could you tell me what kind of safe voltages I could stay in on air/water and ln2. And what they mean, cause they're different than my EVGA bios settings.


CPU Voltage: no explanation needed
CPU PLL Voltage: What voltage is this, and what will it help my OC for?
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: I'm very unsure what kind of voltage I could use on this one. Same as CPU VTT in Evga bios?
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.65 for stock Vdim probably?

IOH=NB voltage, stay around 1.2 -1.3v?
IOH PCIE voltage = nu clue :S

ICH= South Bridge voltage. if I bump this voltage what benefits will I get?
ICH PCIE?


And there is a setting about T-Balance and X-power, Xpower is probably for clockaholics speeds?:D

And what BIOS Should I use for a W3520, 1005?


Best Regards Mr.rusty overclocker.com :)

[Hondacity]

pll 1.8 for me....some say its stable @ say 1.5v

qpi/dram core voltage.... qpi/dram(is imc) = vtt
dram bus voltage = vdimm

nb voltage = i set to auto..i haven't played with this one yet...prolly helps ... make sure the nb tems are below 60C this makes a lot of difference...

all other voltages i set to auto...

[Kriztoffer]

Thanks. what kind of QPI/dram voltage could I use on air/water?

[Hondacity]

1.4v will suffice for 42xx for nb frequency.....

i say keep it to 1.4v or something...for air... for 45nm..

[Neuromancer]

I always set IOH to 1.4v

IOH PCIE I think = IOH ICH I/O on most other boards... = 1.6- 1.65v for better 3D stability.

I use the same voltages for air/water or DIce...

(R3F, E759, E758, Asrock Extreme, Foxconn Bloodrage... am I missing one???)

[DOM]

only volts i mess with are the v-core and qpi/dram and set the others to stock which should be the lowest setting but the pll goes lower so idk if it helps much havent had time to play with it

but benched 3dm06 on water at 4.6ghz

but going to try to hook up the ss tomorrow idk why i even got this mb XD LOL when i could bench my 980 @ 5.25-5ghz on the ss on my other asus mb

[DOM]

http://rapidshare.com/files/422181101/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-1102.zip

[Hondacity]

thanksss

[sofos1990]

Thanks for sharing :D

[Hondacity]

from sham...

0096.rom

http://pic.xfastest.com/nickshih/0096.rom

will upload to server ...later

[kikicoco1334]

real quick i been reading about rampage iii extreme and i was wondering what this is?
http://www.cbbimg.com/out.php/i40754_DSC01940.JPGhttp://www.cbbimg.com/out.php/i40754_DSC01940.JPG
http://www.cbbimg.com/out.php/i40754_DSC01940.JPG