View Full Version : F1 vs Koolance V2
MaadDaawg
04-22-2010, 11:32 AM
Okay, settle down .. we all know the F1 is the way to go, but... just contemplating what might happen if one were to tap the holes in the F1 the way Koolance tapped the wholes in their little tiny nickle covered copper base?
Would it help, or frack it all up ???
Inquiring minds want to know :P
ReverendMaynard
04-22-2010, 12:01 PM
I would say it would frack it all to hell and back. That design is as it is for a reason, and if ain't broke...don't fix it ;)
Splave
04-22-2010, 12:05 PM
I want to know why my f1 doesnt have the monster holes like some guys
ReverendMaynard
04-22-2010, 12:06 PM
I want to know why my f1 doesnt have the monster holes like some guys
Any chance that those guys with the huge holes are on Team Pure? And yes, you can sig that ;)
I KID!
Splave
04-22-2010, 12:11 PM
rofl very well played sir
Neuromancer
04-22-2010, 12:13 PM
LMAO Very well played.
Witchdoctor
04-22-2010, 12:30 PM
Total noob question here
if you are pouring shit in a receptical that is -160C
does it matter what it is in ?
Having a tough time understanding how specific design would matter like they would with say a water block where design is paramont
In a nut shell what ever it is in should be cols as shit ???
MaadDaawg
04-22-2010, 12:33 PM
I want to know why my f1 doesnt have the monster holes like some guys
Yeah, mine has 4 big holes, one in each "corner" and 4 smaller holes in the middle ??
Wasn't plannin on doing it, damn thing costs too much to eff with, was just curious what you all might think about the idea :P
The holes are smaller to increase mass for load handling of hotter chips.
I'm with witchie though.... Strap a small cardboard box to the cpu, pour in ln2, it still gets cold rofl..... Someone HAS to try that... :blink:
Witchdoctor
04-22-2010, 12:37 PM
Looking at it MD .... if you threaded rods into it sticking up say 3 or 4 inches it may be paramount
wonder if that is the intension of the threads ???
thinking of a nuclear reactor rod drop set up if that make sence
MaadDaawg
04-22-2010, 12:41 PM
hey... if you threaded a few of the holes, and screwed in some long ass copper rods, you'd increase the mass of the block, adding temp stability... yeah, then you make the copper rods hollow so you can pour more LN2 down them, and, and, and :rofl:
Witchdoctor
04-22-2010, 12:55 PM
Fission baby Fission ............... :thumbsup:
If we had the macheinery, we could come up with some serious shit :scared:
Patch
04-22-2010, 01:21 PM
Strap a small cardboard box to the cpu, pour in ln2, it still gets cold rofl..... Someone HAS to try that... :blink:
I know a guy who did just than on the NB once, but with DICE using the cardboard cylinder from a roll of toilet paper.
If I still had my F1 I wouldn't hesitate to drill some more holes in it. Only downside would be the loss of mass. Some people say threaded holes are bad because bubbles get trapped in the threads. I say that's hogwash. LN2 ain't water - that bubble's gonna be very transient.
Vince likes a LOT of mass for temp stability and infrequent pours - that's super awesome for wprime 1024 and pi32. I don't like that much mass because you pay for it with a less responsive pot.
I've got minimal experience next to the big boys, but pot design seems to come down to finding a balance between mass and surface area while working with socket space restrictions. That "balance" leaves a lot of room for personal preference.
ReverendMaynard
04-23-2010, 03:26 AM
Looking at it MD .... if you threaded rods into it sticking up say 3 or 4 inches it may be paramount
wonder if that is the intension of the threads ???
thinking of a nuclear reactor rod drop set up if that make sence
I think the treads are there to increase surface area while the holes themselves are there to tune the mass giving the user better control.
And I agree with Patch, LN2 doesn't have surface tension like water does so bubbles breakup easier. That whole trapping theory is bs.
MaadDaawg
04-23-2010, 08:15 AM
I think the treads are there to increase surface area while the holes themselves are there to tune the mass giving the user better control.
And I agree with Patch, LN2 doesn't have surface tension like water does so bubbles breakup easier. That whole trapping theory is bs.
well yeah Rev, that was my whole point and/or question. The threading adds surface area, but at the same time reduces the overall mass of the block. Wasn't worried at all about bubbles being trapped (help, help lol)
So with more surface area you'd get quicker response, with less mass, you'd get less stability... where would the trade off become beneficial.
I don't have the balls to tap out a $250 copper block anyway ... was just curious mostly