Core i7 take two

[Neuromancer]

New HW specs
Mobo: Bloodrage X58 (not modded yet)
CPU : Core i7 920
RAM: Kinstone HyperX t1 3x1GB 2000MHz C8
PSU: Corsair 750W
Cooling: Water for CPU and chipset
HDD: Corsair 60GB 2.5" SSD

GPUs
2x7600GT
9500 DDR2
4890
X800xt

Leak testing at the moment, only going to test for 15 minutes. Will get the fans hooked up then and start installing Vista (not nLited)

Expecting to be able to bench at 4.7GHz. IIRC 225-230 is the max doable on this setup without the PCIE mod, I will be modding it though and eventually DIcing the chip. For now it will just be some 3D benches to grab some cheap boints :)

[Kal-EL]

Tuned in for the results.

[Neuromancer]

Installing windows now at stock. Set SSD for AHCI mode to see if that helps disk performance at all. (for PCMark testing :) )

Was looking through some memory reviews and it seems odd but... 2050 8-8-8 does better in Pi then 1866 6-7-6-6 :o

Wonder what these bad boys will do once I start to really clock them heh heh


Also did a quick play around with the PCIE freq, and its not limited to 103... so once I get windows installed I will see if setting it higher actually works... might not need a PCIE mod

Okay windows installed and updated and tweaked, just poking around a little bit.

Going to start installing utilities I will need (CPU GPU softclocking stuff) and image the OS


On a side note. WOW this ram runs warm even seriously underclocked. Dunno if it is because the ram actually runs warm.. or its the first ram I ever had with a functional heatspreader lol.

No love tonight. 190BCLK hardwall, and raising PCIE means I cant get into windows because BIOS loses my HDDs.

Not finished yet got some other stuff to try still.. but not looking good :(

[Kal-EL]

Well that sucks poopoo man. :C

[Neuromancer]

yes it do indeed

I asked on OCN about it... was told to ask at XS lol

I knew the site was filled with trolls and youngins. (trolls is only reason I post there... lets me vent) And XS.. meh.. those guys dont like answering questions unless you phrase it real specific like.

n00b like me wont get any answers at XS.

im hitting a 190 BCLK wall.. consideirng both CPU and mobo are used.. I dont know which os the problem. I assume it is the board... so I contacted the seller for direction (no luck yet) might be some trick with the BR)

Thinking I might just sell it all off and say fuck 3d benching. Leave 3d for the big boys that can drop a grand on a CPU/mobo/ram setup.

[thebanik]

yes it do indeed

I asked on OCN about it... was told to ask at XS lol

I knew the site was filled with trolls and youngins. (trolls is only reason I post there... lets me vent) And XS.. meh.. those guys dont like answering questions unless you phrase it real specific like.

n00b like me wont get any answers at XS.

im hitting a 190 BCLK wall.. consideirng both CPU and mobo are used.. I dont know which os the problem. I assume it is the board... so I contacted the seller for direction (no luck yet) might be some trick with the BR)

Thinking I might just sell it all off and say fuck 3d benching. Leave 3d for the big boys that can drop a grand on a CPU/mobo/ram setup.

Its a damn costly passion to follow for sure, and sadly no1 in the family understands the *NEED* to spend so much money on a computer when others can build their for so much cheap and need not upgrade for years, :laughing:

[ReverendMaynard]

isn't ACHI mode on SSD's bad sauce? We install them in-house for large deployment in IDE mode.

[Witchdoctor]

yes it do indeed

I asked on OCN about it... was told to ask at XS lol

I knew the site was filled with trolls and youngins. (trolls is only reason I post there... lets me vent) And XS.. meh.. those guys dont like answering questions unless you phrase it real specific like.

n00b like me wont get any answers at XS.

im hitting a 190 BCLK wall.. consideirng both CPU and mobo are used.. I dont know which os the problem. I assume it is the board... so I contacted the seller for direction (no luck yet) might be some trick with the BR)

Thinking I might just sell it all off and say fuck 3d benching. Leave 3d for the big boys that can drop a grand on a CPU/mobo/ram setup.

you should hit Dent up and see if he sold his Classy .... 175 for it is a steal ...
Not up to speed on the limitations of the Foxxcon boards .....

I know what you mean though ... this is one exspencive hobby
That is why I am buying up cheaper cards and hitting hardware boints so hard.
It doesn't do much for my personal standing in the rankings but helps the team climb up the ladder in the world standings and also I have lots of fun doing it.

Good luck bro and just do what you can with what you have, just participating in the game is what is the funnest part .............

Winning the game is just a matter of time ......

[Chuchnit]

Neuro, IIRC the bloodrage has some very very tight internal timings on auto. I don't have any experience on it though. I just remember SF3D mentioning that the auto timings are super tight and limit bclock. You might just have to fight the signifigant timings to boost the bclock. I sure hope it works out because it is supposed to be a very good scoring board when up to speed.

[HITandRUN]

Neuro, IIRC the bloodrage has some very very tight internal timings on auto. I don't have any experience on it though. I just remember SF3D mentioning that the auto timings are super tight and limit bclock. You might just have to fight the signifigant timings to boost the bclock. I sure hope it works out because it is supposed to be a very good scoring board when up to speed.

Agreed! I had two of them before and had pretty good results with it but I never pushed the BCLK passed 210 since I used a 975.

[Neuromancer]

Yeah I am going to hit it up here again after I get to the Post office.

Got frustrated with it last night and had to walk away


Yes AHCI and SSD do not play nicely together. Found that out trying to install Vista (Vista seems the drive will let you format it... but will not let you install on it.

Had someone tell me to set tref to like 100 (I was running 8-8-8-24-40) Will give that a whirl tonight.

woo hooo!


224 BCLK booting Vista with HTT enabled. Going to run some stress tests (wprime and such) not for tweaks just for giggles and to test stability :)

If I can pass 1024 at 4.7 GHz I will be calling hte local repair shop and see if they can perform the mod for me tomorrow

225 BCLK insta freeze in windows so guessing 224 is all I can ask for at 102 PCIE :)

[Kal-EL]

Well, what was the hold up?
congrats tooooo :)

[Hondacity]

the bloodrage needs a mod....

i hope they mod good :D

[Neuromancer]

224 BCLK for 32M wprime submitted no tweaks.

1024M wprime I had to drop to 223 and submitted that too.

Nice 10 boint boost to my score even though i was only running 1-2 MHz faster on BCLK than my old wPrime runs!

Working on this x800Xt right now trying out different softclocking stuff
think ATItray might be best for me.. had a voltage control option but I crashed and rebooted and now its gone :s

[HITandRUN]

Yeah I am going to hit it up here again after I get to the Post office.

Got frustrated with it last night and had to walk away


Yes AHCI and SSD do not play nicely together. Found that out trying to install Vista (Vista seems the drive will let you format it... but will not let you install on it.

Had someone tell me to set tref to like 100 (I was running 8-8-8-24-40) Will give that a whirl tonight.

woo hooo!


224 BCLK booting Vista with HTT enabled. Going to run some stress tests (wprime and such) not for tweaks just for giggles and to test stability :)

If I can pass 1024 at 4.7 GHz I will be calling hte local repair shop and see if they can perform the mod for me tomorrow

225 BCLK insta freeze in windows so guessing 224 is all I can ask for at 102 PCIE :)

So what was the fix to your BLCK problems? Was it the tref increase?

[Neuromancer]

one of the "southern" voltages turned red as soon as I left 1.1v

Turns out it was QPI pll Once I upped it past 1.2v I flew right on up to 215

Needing about 1.3ish for 224 I think

And HDD has not disappeared since I upped the QPI voltage either :)

Trying to figure out Atitraytools now.. I had it setup, and ATI Overdrive 3 was available which means I had voltage control available I think. I crashed and its been greyed out ever since. Been working on that for the last hour LOL

Might just give up on it and take some shitty x800xt scores and move on to the nVidia bointable stuff

[Neuromancer]

I am done for the night.

Something is buggered all up. Teh CPU score in the 3d benches is approximately 1/8th - 1/10th what it should be.... tried everything except an OS reinstall will give that a shot tomorrow.

wPrime runs fine so must assume I damaged the OS or something playing with tweaks.

[Chuchnit]

You got some screenies you can throw up?

[Neuromancer]

Nope I dont think so....

THings like cpu score went from 34K in AM3 down to 3-4K.

Ran 3dMark05. and averaged 1.4/1.4 FPS 4.9 GHz i7 (200 MHz faster) runs 14/15 FPS

Going to flash the drive and geter done.

[ReverendMaynard]

keep at it neuro, maybe a new OS install will do the trick.

[Neuromancer]

I reinstalled the OS and ran AM3 again LMAO

CPU score is 1/10th what it should be... but on a positive note the GPU score is about 5 times what it should be.

Tried XP comapatability mode and deleting direcpl.dll

Running 06 now. cpu test scored normal, but installing fresh drivers anyway.

[Chuchnit]

CPU/GPU score is pointless to look at for am3. You can even get an N/A for those two scores and still get an overall score.

[Neuromancer]

Yeah but my first runthrough of AM3 was 105K with a 34K CPU score. (I forget the GPU score)

Started OCing to try and catchup to Witchy, and maybe I borked the card?

[Chuchnit]

What I'm saying is only worry about the overall. Don't even look at the CPU/GPU score in am3. It is pointless...

[Neuromancer]

What I'm saying is only worry about the overall. Don't even look at the CPU/GPU score in am3. It is pointless...

Well I thought it might point to something since my score was halved.

[Chuchnit]

Well I think I might tell you again that those scores don't matter. Now if the actual bench score is way off then you have a problem. If the bench score is close, the CPU/GPU score can say what it wants.

[Hondacity]

imo the cpu and gpu scores matter... try reinstalling am3

[Neuromancer]

I reimaged the OS and still got bupkiss

Going to call the x800 a dud and move on

[Chuchnit]

I reimaged the OS and still got bupkiss

Going to call the x800 a dud and move on

Move on, get some results and try again later. You know the routine. Next try will prolly be a sucess.

imo the cpu and gpu scores matter... try reinstalling am3

Scores don't matter. They have nothing to do with your overall score. K|ngp|n, and a bunch of other benchers backed this up when it was asked at xs. I have had plenty of runs where they showed N/A for CPU/GPU. AM3 score is avg FPS x 100

[Neuromancer]

I am about to throw this damn thing through the window

Popped in the 7600gt.. max OC hit pretty quick 590/795

Ran it stock and scored a 3935 in 06

Oced it and ran again and lost a thousand points even though all individual scores went up

I am starting to think I am doing something seriously wrong with this setup.

ok trying again limited gmem clock this time and a lot more core clocks.

[Kal-EL]

Check gpu-z to see if you're operating at x4 x8 or x16 on that pcie slot.

[FACE]

how would you correct that? :confused1:

[Chuchnit]

He might not be running in slot 1, or a multitude of other things. Sometimes its user fault and other times it might take a different BIOS.

[Neuromancer]

Was running in slot at 16x

Just a bad Vista install I guess reimaging did not help

Installed XP and score 97K at stock.. and 109 after vid card OC.

Still not good... but was with no tweaks either.