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[Buckeye]

Well times are changing around here for bill and I have decided that the MonstaCade will be taking a ride accross the sea to a little island nut case so he could abuse the machine and what ever else he decides to freeze.

The problem here is, or one of them, every single Intel board that I have cold bugs on this beast. I have tried 750, 2x 860's, 870, and now 975XE... none will boot any colder than ~60c.

I just spent the afternoon getting everything all prepped up with a 975XE and kick on the Cascade to find out it will not boot, again :(

Not sure if its these Gigabyte boards that need cold bug mods, I know the P55 boards have one out but I have not tried them yet.

Plus at home here the wife had been out of work well over 8 months, finally getting a really sweet job making good jack but its no good for the mortage company. I am also here at home taking care of o'l Mom and I am not able to get out and work, might have to do something about that also that I really don't want to do. So we may be having to look for a new place here soon :(

Kal and I had been working with a builder to have a 2 stage cascade that has gone south, for a long time now with no sight to the end of it.

But I must honer my comments and do the best that I can for that deal to come to an end in the best way possible. Kal is a great guy and I think its in the best interest for all that I ship the cascade to him. I will handle the jack fruit builder :morpheus:

So as of monday I will be I will be looking for a shipper to have this packaged up for a nice safe trip to the islands.

So good luck and have fun Kal :)

[Kal-EL]

:kneelsuckers:



Thx BILL!

[Buckeye]

I am sure you will know how to abuse this thing :laughing:

[Neuromancer]

OMG... it will be broken in side of 6 months when the second stage explodes because he tried runnming a 6 GHz gulftown on it


LOL j/k

grats Kal

[HITandRUN]

Nice buy there Kal. I'm sure you will have a lot of fun with it.

@ Bill. If you want some advice on how to ship stuff like that you should hook up with sdumper. He builds cascades and ships them across the country. I'm sure by now he figured it out how to get it done properly so these things arrive safely.

[Rogue210]

Oh Oh there is no stopping him now....Have vaca time saved up??? LOL

[Buckeye]

Nice buy there Kal. I'm sure you will have a lot of fun with it.

@ Bill. If you want some advice on how to ship stuff like that you should hook up with sdumper. He builds cascades and ships them across the country. I'm sure by now he figured it out how to get it done properly so these things arrive safely.

Thanks

Its going to be done by professionals so it arrives nice and safe. I don't think there will be many people on the island who will be able to fix it in case it gets damaged.

[Kal-EL]

Thanks

Its going to be done by professionals so it arrives nice and safe. I don't think there will be many people on the island who will be able to fix it in case it gets damaged.

Yah, I doubt there are too many refridgeration dudes that will know how to tune it properly. :keeporder:

[Gutterz]

Oh chit their goes the island

[Kal-EL]

Bow chica bow bow :cool1:

[Splave]

best of luck on it arriving safely :) fingers crossed, have fun!

[Buckeye]

No luck will be needed. This is going to be crated by the pro's.

Shipping box will be constructed to fit. Cascade will be raised and bolted down so the wheels are off the floor, then rigged in place so it will not move.

Next it will be shrink wrapped and then covered by this Blue Heat Sealed Wrap.
Then crate walls will go up and the insides will be fully packed with padded foam inserts.

Kal promissed he would photo the full unpacking <hint, hint> Kal ;)

[Assassin48]

how much is it going to cost for shipping ?

[Neuromancer]

1 million dollars!!!!!

[Buckeye]

Bills not playing around with any chance of this getting damaged.

All builders should do something along these lines, there is only some extra steps involved here.

It would save so many broken units getting delivered to people.

Bills new saying... "There is only one way, the right way" LOL :)

[ReverendMaynard]

way to go pro Buck, I've been on the bad side of a few SS shipments.

[Neuromancer]

Yeah if the unit already weighs 100 pounds... there is no reason not to go with a wood crate for shipping...

(100 pounds is usually the difference between package and freight costs)

[ReverendMaynard]

Yeah if the unit already weighs 100 pounds... there is no reason not to go with a wood crate for shipping...

(100 pounds is usually the difference between package and freight costs)

na dude. My SS weighed 64lbs and if it had a crate it would have survived. These things are delicate.

[Buckeye]

Yeah if the unit already weighs 100 pounds... there is no reason not to go with a wood crate for shipping...

(100 pounds is usually the difference between package and freight costs)

Its more like 150lbs, sucker is not light.

[Witchdoctor]

Congrats Kal ....

hope shipping all goes well...

Sub Zero at the flick of a switch will spoil you bro .......

pop a card in and it is like making a cup of coffee

instant results ...................:thumbsup:

Have a ball and now instead of pouring LN2 while you bench you can pour your favorite tropical drinks and watch the show

Still hit the suace for 2D ................LOL

[Kal-EL]

:D:D

[Russianhaxor]

Buckeye, did you see the coldbug mods that HiCookie posted???

[DrNip]

Bills not playing around with any chance of this getting damaged.

All builders should do something along these lines, there is only some extra steps involved here.

It would save so many broken units getting delivered to people.

Bills new saying... "There is only one way, the right way" LOL :)


Yep. Can't skimp on the gravy when shipping especially something of this magnitude and across seas.

[Buckeye]

Yep. Can't skimp on the gravy when shipping especially something of this magnitude and across seas.

Its not just that, well mostly that, but this thing is my baby and it would just be a total waste to not take the necessary precations to make sure it arrived in working order. Otherwise why not just take it out in the back yard and beat on it with a hammer :Dizzy:

Buckeye, did you see the coldbug mods that HiCookie posted???

Yes I did, those are for P55 boards if I am not mistaken, I can use those as well.

But the one for my outdated X58 Rev 1.0 board which is up to Rev 1.6 now is really a pain, at least for me.

<insert small rant about all this> LOL

[Neuromancer]

Its not just that, well mostly that, but this thing is my baby and it would just be a total waste to not take the necessary precations to make sure it arrived in working order. Otherwise why not just take it out in the back yard and beat on it with a hammer :Dizzy:



Yes I did, those are for P55 boards if I am not mistaken, I can use those as well.

But the one for my outdated X58 Rev 1.0 board which is up to Rev 1.6 now is really a pain, at least for me.

<insert small rant about all this> LOL


OMFG don't get me started on GB boards...





And earlier yeah.. I was saying that 100 pounds is the breaking point on shipping from UPS/Fedex to going freight and having it cost a lot. Past 100 pounds shipping weight there is no reason NOT to add 20 pounds of packaging...

(I ship A LOT of stuff so packaging weight always has to be considered if it don't fit in a flat rate box :) (I tried doing "Flat rate" shipping for stuff I sell on forums... and man its always you California guys that buy it up and Fuchs me on shipping, when its something heavy..)

I ma glad though this transaction is taking place though.. despite the shipping charges.. Must be damn hard to build a monstacade on a tiny little island that is so out there they made a TV series about it called "LOST"

LOL

[Kal-EL]

Oh yah but you watched Gilligan's Island re-runs 100's of times without complainin huh?

[Neuromancer]

Oh yah but you watched Gilligan's Island re-runs 100's of times without complainin huh?

Hey I watch anything about an island so friendly its initials are HI :clapping:

[Kal-EL]

Nails scaping across chalk board..................

[Buckeye]

The Goose has flown, on its way to be crated up :)

[ocgmj]

The cold cart is coming Kal get ready!

[Kal-EL]

*punches fist into oversized leather glove

"I got this sucker!"

[Buckeye]

Well I have done my best to make sure it handles the trip the best way possible, I am still very nervious about it :Dizzy:

[Kal-EL]

Well I have done my best to make sure it handles the trip the best way possible, I am still very nervious about it :Dizzy:

No worries Bill, if it blows up on me, its an Accident! My wife will be a double millionare with our insurance policies, my son will be set for life and use the proceeds to finance Overclockaholics further. That means FREE hardware for EVERYONE!!!!!!
(its in my WILL, seriously, OCA4LIFE)

Just say nice things to my widow or she'll initiate a Manslaughter case ;) :taunt:

[Splave]

Kal Im willing to step up to the plate and marry her for you bro. Would I inherit the 285 classies and 4x5870s then? rofl

[Kal-EL]

Kal Im willing to step up to the plate and marry her for you bro. Would I inherit the 285 classies and 4x5870s then? rofl

:laughing:

[Buckeye]

You don't think the Cascade is being shipped without a stowaway do you :eek:

[Witchdoctor]

Party @ Kal's place ???? :clapping:

[HITandRUN]

Party @ Kal's place ???? :clapping:

That's what I thought! Kal when can we show up for some NOOB surf, some beer and some OCing?

[Planet]

That's what I thought! Kal when can we show up for some NOOB surf, some beer and some OCing?

You forgot some BBQ and lots of beer.

[Witchdoctor]

Haviee.................. Crab legs and lobster bro :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

Beach parties are the best.

[FACE]

Beach parties are the best.

I used to LOVE hurricane parties :party:

[Splave]

i'll bring the purple drank

[Chuchnit]

I used to LOVE hurricane parties :party:

Hurricane parties :thumbsup: I have attended a couple of those :laughing: Better buy the booze way before the storm hits cause you ain't gonna find any a couple days out.

[Witchdoctor]

There will be plenty of Clear Springs availible for some Jungle juice and we can also use it as an activator for some dice action ..... :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

Can't wait for this thing to arrive Buckeye, gonna make life much easier on Supes :D

[FACE]

Your wife might shit when she sees that power bill though... :taunt:

[Buckeye]

Can't wait for this thing to arrive Buckeye, gonna make life much easier on Supes :D

I should get a call today with tracking info etc. I was told yesterday that it will ship today.

[Splave]

Can't wait for this thing to arrive Buckeye, gonna make life much easier on Supes :D

dude cascade is epic for hammering out 32m spi, ran like 20 different runs last night no pouring! Did chores between runs rofl. Will save you alot of ln2 testing cold settings as well. Win for sure, I just couldnt swing both with my modest income and significant other still in school.

[Chuchnit]

Your wife might shit when she sees that power bill though... :taunt:

Bill, how much did that thing cost to operate you think? What about a strong ss setup for benching??

[Splave]

My bill was +$60 running 2x a week total of probably 10 hours a week.

[Chuchnit]

What state? That's not very cheap, LOL

[FACE]

What state? That's not very cheap, LOL

It doesn't really seem that bad... 25lbs of dice once a week is roughly $100+ a month. Ln2 even more...

[Splave]

What state? That's not very cheap, LOL

Upstate New York, live in a small apartment. Usual bill before was $20 in the winter, latest was $85 rofl. FBI knocking on the door

[Buckeye]

Well considering that you don't run it 24/7 and really for only a few hours at a time I don't think that it should be to bad.

The biggest consideration I would think for someone looking at running one of these puppies is how well your home is wired. Startups draw a big load so you might have to run an extension cord to a different wall socket.

I am pretty lucky here where I live and ran the Cascade on one socket, while I still had another SS Phase, my main rig and the benching rig plus a bunch of other stuff with no problems. This means I should be good to go for a 3 stager LOL.

The house I lived in before and grew up in is much older and could not have done this with out getting new lines wired in.

Other considerations is noise, this unit is not bad at all while running, it is some what loud but not nearly as bad as some others I have heard. Rottary compressers are way to loud for me, plus its a higher pitched sound, I could not handle one of those for very long. My family is pretty understanding about all this and never complained one bit while i ran the unit.

Last is heat output. I have a rather large room I bench in so it was not a problem at all, I never did notice any real heat coming out of the unit while benching. Now my Jinu SS Phase when installed on my main rig was not only noisy but had a lot of heat coming out if it.

Running in a smaller room you might notice the heat and noise more tho.

Condensation was never an issue for me, it never frooze over or had ice forming anywhere. I am lucky where I live :)

Kal will notice that I wrap the Evap enclosure with a layer of Armaflex becuase when I first ran the Jinu SS Phase on the main rig it would for water dops around the enclosure so one layer of tape fixed all that. I don't know how bad it is where Kal lives but he may need to put another layer on. Good prep work is key to get a nice tight seal.

I do it just like this for everything.
http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1690

This unit has been a real pleasure to run and it will be missed a great deal :(
Now I have to get moving and build another :ohcrap:
But I have a few surprises that I want to work on for something a little different, all in good time :)

[Chuchnit]

Still cheaper than buying ln2 gear and filling the dewars. It's still just more than I expected. What about you ss guys?

[Kal-EL]

I should get a call today with tracking info etc. I was told yesterday that it will ship today.

I think it'll be here just in time for Gulftown+new cards

[Buckeye]

Yeah running LN2 can be very costly :(

Its like taking $150 and watching it go up in fog everything I fill my Dewar.
I went crazy there for awhile and had LN2 running like tap water here, but it just becomes to costly after awhile.

Going AMD at max temps is the worst at cost tho :(

[Buckeye]

I think it'll be here just in time for Gulftown+new cards

I am thinking if it goes by plane maybe monday or sooner, by ship early part of next week. But dont hold me to that until I talk with the shipper today LOL.

[HITandRUN]

http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1690

Very helpful link! Thank you and 1+


Still cheaper than buying ln2 gear and filling the dewars. It's still just more than I expected. What about you ss guys?

Yes it might be true but the problem is you always need a cold bug free CPU which in Intel world is pretty had to get. I never in my life had on which could take a fully filled up LN2 pot. The beauty of LN2 is that you can regulate the temps. Phase is full force and relax.

[karmakazi]

Very helpful link! Thank you and 1+




Yes it might be true but the problem is you always need a cold bug free CPU which in Intel world is pretty had to get. I never in my life had on which could take a fully filled up LN2 pot. The beauty of LN2 is that you can regulate the temps. Phase is full force and relax.

Well many clarks and gulfies can be run lower than -150, and that bodes well for LN2'ers. Phase for me will be used to do the pretesting and tweaking, then Ill bring it all together for the final runs on LN2

[Buckeye]

Well many clarks and gulfies can be run lower than -150, and that bodes well for LN2'ers. Phase for me will be used to do the pretesting and tweaking, then Ill bring it all together for the final runs on LN2

And thats where SS Phase really shines, in pretesting and ease of use. That was the same thing I found with the Cascade with chips that could run on it.

LN2 has the ability to dial in a temp and keep it so it handles the load, thats something that Phase and Cascade have a hard time with at times.

But SS Phase, Cascade and LN2 are tools and if you pick the right tool for the job you will get good results. The same thing goes for LN2 pots.

Now a days the costs of LN2 seems to be getting rather steep, for me anyway. All the pots, Dewars, LN2 itself, then to say nothing about the time frame you have to use it in, then dealing with condensation and prep work.

A Cascade does its job by being able to use it with just about no time spent on planning the runs, running out and filling the Dewar which in some places is not easy to get. Condensation is not a real issue and being able to filp a few switches and let the machine start up and away you go. Other issues such as can your place handle the power demand of a Cascade, the noise and heat outputs of some units can simply be to much, who wants to sit next to a screaming machine for a few hours.

But a well made Cascade is a thing of beauty and a joy to work with. One this is based on rotary compressors that has a poor tune and keeped running at max speeds can really be a pain to use.

I think of it like this, a well tuned Cascade is like a car driving down the freeway with a nice steady power output and designed to run in that range, its a pleasure to use. A poorly tuned rotary compressor setup is like sitting in netural with your foot pressed down on the gas and the motor revs like crazy. Makes a lot of noise and shortens the life of the compressors. They do use rotarys in window AC units which do not make near the amount of noise, because they are tunned correctly.


btw the Goose has shipped and on its way, tho it has to go around the world a few times. Really the crew is paddling as fast as they can LOL

[Splave]

pretesting is all and good but I made the top ten in the US with no cold on GPUs and the cascade only ;)

[Buckeye]

pretesting is all and good but I made the top ten in the US with no cold on GPUs and the cascade only ;)

The right tool for the job ;)

What did you use on the CPU ?

[Kal-EL]

Not long now :D

[Buckeye]

Maybe I should not have picked this shipping company....

[Buckeye]

5 days counting today :)

[Kal-EL]

4 days eh? 17th?

[Buckeye]

Ekkk... 3 more days, counting today :clapping:

Remember pictures of the uncrating or it comes back !! :)

[Kal-EL]

Oh, I didn't notice it was just 3 more days :blush:

[Jor-El]

Man that is a freaking big trip, hopefully the monstacade will arrive safely.

[Witchdoctor]

sub zero at a flick of a switch .....

3D heaven

[HITandRUN]

Oh, I didn't notice it was just 3 more days :blush:

Time to get excited Kal!:thumbsup:

[Buckeye]

Tomorrow !!! :keeporder::thumbsup::ohcrap:

[Kal-EL]

:jumpin:

[Chuchnit]

Bill, with how it was packed/shipped, is he going to have to let the oil settle in the compressors before firing it up?

[Witchdoctor]

You have an independent 20 amp cuircut ready to go supes ? ....

that will help avoid the lights dimming when you kick this puppy on ........... LOL

[Kal-EL]

You have an independent 20 amp cuircut ready to go supes ? ....

that will help avoid the lights dimming when you kick this puppy on ........... LOL

Nothing on the circuit it'll be used on. :cool3:

[Buckeye]

Bill, with how it was packed/shipped, is he going to have to let the oil settle in the compressors before firing it up?

Yes let it sit for a few hours before firing that puppy up :thumbsup:

I was gonna say but you beat me to it LOL

[Kal-EL]

Yes let it sit for a few hours before firing that puppy up :thumbsup:

I was gonna say but you beat me to it LOL

I'll let it sit till the weekend before firing it up.

[Buckeye]

Just to update everyone here on the status.

The cascade is in Hawaii and awaiting unloading from the ship, that was yesterday. I was told Kal woul dget a phone call when its ready to head to his house.

Very sorry for the delay but I guess you have to deal with all the union dock workers and all that jazz. :(

So very soon is the best I can say, its very close now :)

[Chuchnit]

I'd rather wait an extra day as long as it gets there safe.

[Buckeye]

It will be, just slow dock workers. Hmm.. lets see how fast is it to unload a whole ship and sort the shipping containers LOL.

I know Kal must be going crazy LOL

It wil get there :)

[Chuchnit]

Kal is probably down there right now explaining how its in their best interest to get it off NOW!! :gun4::green1:

[Splave]

^thats what she said

i just noticed how ironic the thread title is, ROFL

[karmakazi]

Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Buckeye]

Seems the ship sank in the port, hit the dock or something and they are trying to get the ship afloat now :ohcrap:

[Dentlord]

Wait, seriously??

[Witchdoctor]

joking ...... :blink:

I hope

[Neuromancer]

Think he is commentin on the fact the package has not arrived yet BOOOOOOOOO

[Buckeye]

Actually the crane broke. Some one forgot to lube it or something.

Kal has to go over and pick it up off the ship himself because he is like strong, eats wheaties everyday and drinks lots of orange juice/raw eggs mixtures.

[FACE]

I thought Hawaiians broke coconuts over their heads and ate the innards..... That and spam.... And the white people there have to grow Magnum P.I. mustaches.... And hang with Higgins... :taunt:

:ohcrap:

You'll get your insta-cold goodness soon enough buddy.... :Hi:

[Kal-EL]

Patience my friends patience. When I run out of it, I'll be calling some less than scrupulous family members that work at the docks to get it sorted.

[Buckeye]

Patience my friends patience. When I run out of it, I'll be calling some less than scrupulous family members that work at the docks to get it sorted.

:ohcrap:

[Kal-EL]

Jackfruit's are gonna deliver on Monday now because their inept delivery scheduling department forgot to include it in today's runs. :argh:

[Buckeye]

Jackfruit's are gonna deliver on Monday now because their inept delivery scheduling department forgot to include it in today's runs. :argh:

again :ohcrap:

After you talked with them in the morning also, Shame !!

[Kal-EL]

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/Kryptocade/025.JPG

[Assassin48]

when can we expect results ?
15 mins ?

[Buckeye]

All pictures look fine Kal :)

Good luck :)

[Kal-EL]

when can we expect results ?
15 mins ?

Gonna let her sit for a couple days and let the oil settle back down to the bottom.

[Splave]

very smart move kal :) you will have some nice GPUs to push as well by friday. I sent the 8800gt's the gx2 is going to take some research

[Buckeye]

All the brazes look like they held up just fine, no oil leaks which is a good sign :thumbsup:

Now crosses fingers that no gas leaked out...

You know my number and have instructions, call me if you have any issues.

[Witchdoctor]

Instant 3D fun is getting closer

Good luck and have fun bro ......... :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

very smart move kal :) you will have some nice GPUs to push as well by friday. I sent the 8800gt's the gx2 is going to take some research

Kool, just waiting on the 20L dewar to arrive and I'm all set :)

[Patch]

I came home to find out my 980x ES and a 5870 Lightning arrived today.

Yet, I find myself jealous of you.....that's just not right.

[Dentlord]

Kool, just waiting on the 20L dewar to arrive and I'm all set :)

Ill check with the post office on that tomorrow, they told me 11 days and it has been more than that.

[Kal-EL]

Ill check with the post office on that tomorrow, they told me 11 days and it has been more than that.

O.k. thx Dent :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

I came home to find out my 980x ES and a 5870 Lightning arrived today.

Yet, I find myself jealous of you.....that's just not right.

:cool3: :Hi:

[Hondacity]

i wanna see that 20L dewar!!!!

nice fridge you have there...lol

[Neuromancer]

Whoo whee. waiting must be torment

[Rogue210]

Lol I don't think supes is known for his patience :D

[karmakazi]

SO SO happy for you supes!! Cant wait to see the damage!

And now you have no excuse not to try tweaking 32M :)

[Buckeye]

SO SO happy for you supes!!

Happy for Sups, Sad for Buckeye :(
Sacred to see the damage Sups will do LOL :ohcrap:

[Kal-EL]

Lol I don't think supes is known for his patience :D
Actually I've grown quite a bit of patience while growing with this community :good:
SO SO happy for you supes!! Cant wait to see the damage!

And now you have no excuse not to try tweaking 32M :)
Yessir, no pressure :P
Happy for Sups, Sad for Buckeye :(
Sacred to see the damage Sups will do LOL :ohcrap:
What do you think Bill? Safe to start her engine now or wait another day to play it safe?

[Buckeye]

Should be fine now, go for it :)

[Witchdoctor]

What a beast .... a Briggs and Straton pull cord is in norder for this monster

Happy for ya Supes .... lot's of instant fun heading your way

[Kal-EL]

Well, it works!, -106c due to warm Hawaii weather.

[Witchdoctor]

That's a great frozen drink maker you got there supes .......... :laughing:
Nothing like the smell of compressor oil and a cool brezze of a condensor fan on a hot day .............. :thumbsup:

[Neuromancer]

Well, it works!, -106c due to warm Hawaii weather.

Good thing you replaced that chewing gum holding the power cable on :)

On a serious note CONGRATS!! Insta super DIce cooling :)

[RomDominance]

Sheit, dice -30c is more like it...lets get this party started Supers!

[Neuromancer]

Sheit, dice -30c is more like it...lets get this party started Supers!

yeah thats why I said SUPER DIce. If Supes made DIce it be -105C :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

That's a great frozen drink maker you got there supes .......... :laughing:
Nothing like the smell of compressor oil and a cool brezze of a condensor fan on a hot day .............. :thumbsup:

Good thing you replaced that chewing gum holding the power cable on :)

On a serious note CONGRATS!! Insta super DIce cooling :)

Sheit, dice -30c is more like it...lets get this party started Supers!

yeah thats why I said SUPER DIce. If Supes made DIce it be -105C :thumbsup:
Its awn like pop kawn :good:

[Jor-El]

Its awn like pop kawn :good:
Pics + Video or it didn't happen :)

[Kal-EL]

I'll have some recorded overclocking before the sun comes up tomorrow here ;)

[FACE]

I'll have some recorded overclocking before the sun comes up tomorrow here ;)

That's like Sunday my time :ohcrap:

[Buckeye]

Remember, Frosty Evap Pics required ;)

[Kal-EL]

Remember, Frosty Evap Pics required ;)

Delayed :smackbum:

[Kal-EL]

Setting up my office for inta-cold is getting jacked up :laughing:
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On a good note, it appears I've finally nailed down some decent image resizing settings for the forum :D

[Kal-EL]

Nothing like a nice pair of legs :)
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[Kal-EL]

Howz this looking Bill?
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[Rogue210]

holy crap...nice setup supes!!! what did u tear ur whole office up :ohcrap:

[Kal-EL]

holy crap...nice setup supes!!! what did u tear ur whole office up :ohcrap:

Just about Sister! :cool3:

[Chuchnit]

Looking good brudder :thumbsup:

[HITandRUN]

Nice set up! Did you fire this monster up already? :thumbsup:

[ReverendMaynard]

looks like a win setup supester.

[Buckeye]

Hey that looks pretty good.

That suction is a real beast to get it to flex around LOL :)

[FACE]

That thing is massive.... I want one. How's the building coming alone Bill? I'm itching like a prostitute's pantie line.... :thumbsup:

Off to the DIce hookup now... ugh, it seems so inconvenient now.... :shock:

[Witchdoctor]

Howz this looking Bill?
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Nice looking set up supes ....

You may want to get the sides of the unit some more breating room ...

with two compressors running this are going to get hot

or duct that AC unit to the intake of the condensor so the condensor fan dumps out some cooler air across the componets.

Or you could cut a hole in top and fire a fan down to push that AC air across the unit as well

[Buckeye]

I am getting very close, but I still have somethings to get before I can get started. Maybe next month sometime I might be ready. But I am really looking at perhaps May, unless I get a sponsor of course LOLOL

[Jor-El]

Sure looks nice Kal-El big congrats to you man! Can't wait to compare some results :D

[Kal-EL]

I'd love to compare some results, but first, I gotta hit home depot in the a.m. for some industrial sized extension cords. My 15amp breaker keeps tripping when loading into windows.

Turned off everything in the room except the cascade and the bench rig.........

So far the results are:

She'll run wprime 32m @ 5.2ghz @ 1.72 vCore if boot up at -102c and launched before -96c in windows. If left to idle, she'll drop all the way down to -66c.

She'll idle @ -94.5c in windows xp @ 5050mhz @ 1.62vCore and pass all benchmarks including wprime 1024m but will drop down to -88c during test.

At stock clocks and voltage, she'll cool down to aroun -102c after a while in the os.

So, in summary, it appears that under Gulftown, this cascade is only capable of reliable runs in teh area of 5050 thru 5100mhz.

Incidentally, cpu score in 3d06 @ 5050mhz is 11080 ish.

[Buckeye]

Yeah I think Gulftown might be pushing this unit pretty hard compared to what it was built for. 1.7vocre :ohcrap:

Before a test let it sit for a min and watch 1out temps, let it come back as low as it will go before starting the run. That is the key to load handling, let the Cascade come back to normal temps/pressures before starting test.

[Hondacity]

changing cables won't help....try running the cascade off of one breaker..and the pc.at another...

or try changing your breaker to 20A..unless your house has a limit of 15A ...lol

[Neuromancer]

changing cables won't help....try running the cascade off of one breaker..and the pc.at another...

or try changing your breaker to 20A..unless your house has a limit of 15A ...lol

That is probably why he is getting extension cords to run to another circuit ;)

At least that is what I did when I went out and bought Heavy duty cord.

20 AMP for shizzle the serious bencher needs a room with two 20AMPs anymore with AC units, phase change and 1200+ W PSUs.

[karmakazi]

That setup is gonna be perfect for pretesting settings Kal. Also would be great for older gen cpu benching, since its cheaper than LN2 and u can score a ton of hwpoints


20 AMP for shizzle the serious bencher needs a room with two 20AMPs anymore with AC units, phase change and 1200+ W PSUs.

Thats my project for next weekend... install 2 new 20AMP circuit to the bench table :cool3:

[Kal-EL]

changing cables won't help....try running the cascade off of one breaker..and the pc.at another...

or try changing your breaker to 20A..unless your house has a limit of 15A ...lol

It'll help guard against melting the cords and its needed to move the cascade off of the office circuit. Do not use ext. cords for psu's btw, not a good thing.

My a/c air unit runs off a seperate breaker via extension cords and that cord gets pretty darn hot during operation as its your run of the mill ext. cord.

That setup is gonna be perfect for pretesting settings Kal. Also would be great for older gen cpu benching, since its cheaper than LN2 and u can score a ton of hwpoints



Thats my project for next weekend... install 2 new 20AMP circuit to the bench table :cool3:

I'm gonna see how she fairs at bloomfield later today.
This gufltown chip is getting wicked hot and leaky. It'll need ln2 love.

That is probably why he is getting extension cords to run to another circuit ;)

At least that is what I did when I went out and bought Heavy duty cord.

20 AMP for shizzle the serious bencher needs a room with two 20AMPs anymore with AC units, phase change and 1200+ W PSUs.

Anyone know if its cool to just change teh breaker from 15a to 20a?

[RomDominance]

12 gauge romex is fine for 20A, 14gauge is pushing it. One 15Ah circuit should be fine for the 2stage if its on solo....less extension cords the better.

[Buckeye]

I was able to run the full cascade off of one wall socket, and all the rest of my compter stuff in the same roon, including another SS Phase.

I thought you had the office power upgraded when we first talked about this stuff long ago ?


hmm my room is ready for a 3 stage ;)

[Kal-EL]

I was able to run the full cascade off of one wall socket, and all the rest of my compter stuff in the same roon, including another SS Phase.

I thought you had the office power upgraded when we first talked about this stuff long ago ?

Does extension cords = upgrade?


Go check your breaker, its prolly a 20a while mine is a 15a and running all sortsa crap in my office. The cascade runs fine off ONE wall socket, just wanna move it off the office circuit.

[Neuromancer]

I would bet his office has 2 circuits. Not even 2400w would be enough for the monsta, a SS and a couple of overclocked computers and all the accessories that go with it.


EDIT: What is the RLA on those compressors?

[Kal-EL]

I would bet his office has 2 circuits. Not even 2400w would be enough for the monsta, a SS and a couple of overclocked computers and all the accessories that go with it.

Yah, its my other 1200w psu, 30 inch monitor, sounds system, accessories and crap running off the same circuit that causes the trip. When I turned all those things off, everyhting was fine. But I don't wanna turn all those things off so :P

[Neuromancer]

Yah, its my other 1200w psu, 30 inch monitor, sounds system, accessories and crap running off the same circuit that causes the trip. When I turned all those things off, everyhting was fine. But I don't wanna turn all those things off so :P

Word.. having a second PC running while benching is essential.

In my case its usually some podunk piece of crap... but it gets me to the bot to compare benches mid run :)

[Buckeye]

The hard part in starting any of these Cascades is not running, but starting them up, huge draw of power when you kick those bad boys on.

I very well might have 20amp fuses, I will have to look. I know my old house would not have been able to run the Cascade, some pretty old wiring inside that old house.

[Hondacity]

It'll help guard against melting the cords and its needed to move the cascade off of the office circuit. Do not use ext. cords for psu's btw, not a good thing.


Anyone know if its cool to just change teh breaker from 15a to 20a?


why can't i use my AWG12 extensions? i bet these cables are better that whats in my walls. also active PFC compensates for the losses.

also you can't change your breaker to 20A if they were originally 15A..if you have weak cables in the walls...you'll heat those up easily. breakers are there to limit the current draw out of them.

[Neuromancer]

Im running my setup off a 100' 12 gauge extension to an outlet right next to the breaker box!

[Kal-EL]

Gonna try running the 3580 on the cascade right now. http://www.livestream.com/kal_el?t=596829
Waiting for cascade pull down.

[Hondacity]

i missed the liveshow..what happened?

[Kal-EL]

Intermission......

[karmakazi]

more more more! :P

[Splave]

Your cascade a single plug kal? I run mine off 2 seperate 15 ampers.

[Kal-EL]

Got it rigged up to one single 15a outlet outside my bench zone so no more shut downs within the bench zone. First stage is having trouble starting up consistently tho.....

[Splave]

not an expert but maybe get a booster cap for the first stage compressor?

[Buckeye]

Got it rigged up to one single 15a outlet outside my bench zone so no more shut downs within the bench zone. First stage is having trouble starting up consistently tho.....

Let it rest after you keep restarting it

[Hondacity]

i think Jor-El's krypton is cursed ...

[Jor-El]

i think Jor-El's krypton is cursed ...

No I'm sending him positive vibes!

I believe it needs 20 switch or bypass the box all together, these things are power hungry!

[Hondacity]

i work on 350A breakers..if they're dirty they can arc....but heck if its clean..they're good :D

[rickss69]

Kal - Lose that 100' extension cord and get one (12ga.) just long enough to reach a 20 amp plug in another room...I use a 15' extension cord for mine and run it from a 20 amp circuit down the hallway.

If electrical codes are anything like here, you should have 20 amp circuits powering your kitchen, dining room and bath plugs. A good hair dryer pulls in excess of 1500 watts. The washer circuit is also an excellent choice if within reach.

[Jor-El]

http://www.stayonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=11211

[rickss69]

Got mine at Home Depot.

[Kal-EL]

The cord I have now is Fat and Long :blush:

[2chesapeakes]

Got it rigged up to one single 15a outlet outside my bench zone so no more shut downs within the bench zone. First stage is having trouble starting up consistently tho.....

Kal,
Is the first stage having issues starting or re-starting. When I was wiring AC system the minimum off time for any compressor was 6 minutes between starts. This should be the minimum off time but 10 to 15 minutes would be better. This prevents trying to start under a high head pressure.

The other item would be voltage drop on the circuit. On a 120v 1phase 15 amp circuit with 14 gauge wiring the maximum legnth to the cascade should be less than 75'. This puts the voltage at the cascade assuming an 8A load at 3% voltage loss. If you already have less than 120v at the outlet it would be more than 3%. 3% is the maximum voltage drop you would want on a circuit.

[Kal-EL]

Thx Jeff, cord's bout 15'. She stutter starts now but not sure if it always stutter started but its running :)

[Kal-EL]

Running colder tonight at -108c
1861:keeporder:

[Witchdoctor]

Thats the contactor in the relay .most likley .... mine does the same thing ....

One of these days I need to replace it ...... :thumbsup:

[Splave]

kal how does she like gulfie?

[Kal-EL]

Tuning 3D06 @ 5.4ghz for 3D and 5.15ghz for cpu tests. On the bleeding edge right now but so far so good ;)