The New Hwbot

[Kal-EL]

http://hwbot.org/article/news/how_to_survive_rev3_a_walkthrough_guide

[Kal-EL]

Looks like NBOC has a new competitor based on the beta bot.

[DrNip]

I'm excited. Just put a little more fun into overclocking if you ask me. I welcome the change.

[Witchdoctor]

I have not had time to really look at this but my understanding is these dual GPU cards are going to take a beating .... sucks as my 295 numbers are going to drop off considerable ..... I will be going single card CF/SLI and so on for now on .....

Not sure of all the implications but will have to take some time to read what's up.

I think this will change to landscape considerable in 2010 for all the teams. teams that did not rely on these two GPU monsters for global boints will have the upper hand to say the least ......

NBOC will adapt to overcome this temperary set back as I am sure OCA will do the same

[Kal-EL]

We're just puttering along atm. It's like surfing, sometimes you gotta wait for the big set.

[69_Goat]

It's hard to say where we all stand til the dust settles.
From what I've seen so far, I lost a bunch of global boints, but picked up a shitload of hwboints.
They must be still screwing with the formulas because points are fluctuating up and down
everytime I look.
We'll see when rev3 is official.

[punx223]

looks like im gonn ahave to knock the dust off the X58 and start beating on it :D

[Bones]

Yep, looks like the rankings will be shaken up but good once the final changes are made.
Need to watch those and see where I finally wind up, then go from there.

[Kal-EL]

who the hell knows nowadays. one minute ur coming, next ur going. Just bench because u love it ;)

[lakeside2189]

who the hell knows nowadays. one minute ur coming, next ur going. Just bench because u love it ;)
yup!!!!! That is the deal....:clapping:

[punx223]

who the hell knows nowadays. one minute ur coming, next ur going. Just bench because u love it ;)

im gonna bench because i hate you :ohcrap::taunt:

[RomDominance]

Back Gato! Back!
Little benchin for the holidays, thought you might like the duo-dice action Supers.
Fortified my single card Vantage pretty well today I think...enjoy and all my best guys!
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[DrNip]

Hurry up and wait. That seems to be life for ya.

[Jeffro64]

Just when I was starting to figure out the old bot they go and change things before I come back!:ohcrap::argh::argh::argh:

[Kal-EL]

O.k. guys, take this screenshot with a grain of salt, its based on a very old database of hwbot points and countless submissions have been submitted since this data was retrieved. So basically you cannot truely determine where you will stand once it goes "Live".

Here it is.
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[DrNip]

Yeah I'm not fully understanding the 3d scoring I guess, mainly the 01. That appears to have taken a big loss in points. More or less the loss it is the global points are gone or at least on some submissions or something. Maybe they haven't figured them all in yet. I dunno. For instance my 3d01 - 2x gtx 260 - 108,486 submission went form 26 points to only 1.5 points. No global points for it on the new database. Then again it might have to do something with the dual GPU's and they are stealing the global points in 3d01. I haven't ran mine in that bench. Going to have to give that a try and see where it gets me when it goes live. I see everybody has low points in that bench too. Have to wait and see I guess.

[Gunslinger]

It is probably the dual card that is reducing the points. The new system is weighted more on popularity of the hardware vs. actual score results. Early peeks at the new rev, single card G80 results will be awarding the most 3D points. Old C2D chips look to be awarding the most CPU points...

[lakeside2189]

I see the thread in look at the beta hwbot is working again...I also see that no submissions for the 5970 or subs for the last 10 days or so have been added....Just like Kal said...

[RomDominance]

If the test server is up and you don't mind sharing the link, I would like to have a look at it. Thanks in advance.:thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

If the test server is up and you don't mind sharing the link, I would like to have a look at it. Thanks in advance.:thumbsup:

Sry bud, gotta respect the wishes of the RichBastard. Its just a short wait now. Wednesday the server will go LIVE! Yep, this Wednesday ;)

[Mr.Scott]

HWBot must truly be a rich man's hobby, as the older platforms can no longer compete on the same level. CP looses over 1300 hard earned points and becomes destined to move down the list. I was a fool to think that we might even have a chance to compete on an even keel.

[Gunslinger]

It's up now for the public:

http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=43244&postcount=430

blows though, lost 182 boints....:thumbdown:

[Kal-EL]

It's not using nearly the most recent submissions. Check you're profile for some of you're latest boint runs Gunny.

It'll look much different when its updated with current info.

[Gunslinger]

I have not benched in 2 months, pretty sure the cornholeing I got is correct. 40K in vantage gets no points, that just ain't right...

[Kal-EL]

I have not benched in 2 months, pretty sure the cornholeing I got is correct. 40K in vantage gets no points, that just ain't right...

Something must be bugged cuz CP got hosed on the points and OCA is in the 3500 country.

[Gunslinger]

lol, 6th highest score in the world, 3DM03, 5.3 points :trophy:

welcome to the new and imporved Failbot

[Witchdoctor]

Didn't seem like it was broke .....

Not sure why they fixed it ???

[Neuromancer]

HWBot must truly be a rich man's hobby, as the older platforms can no longer compete on the same level. CP looses over 1300 hard earned points and becomes destined to move down the list. I was a fool to think that we might even have a chance to compete on an even keel.

That freaking sucks. I am a "poor" overclocker though, and for some reason my points went way way up.

By poor I mean I am usually one generation behind on any given hardware. But I did get to play with i7 for while :) Although most of my points are from AMD still.

[RomDominance]

I lost over 200bts and have no global in 01, 03 or 05...guess we wait and see what the deal is in a few more days. obamanomics hits the bench community with a vengence, redistribution of boints lmao:blink:

[Kal-EL]

I lost over 200bts and have no global in 01, 03 or 05...guess we wait and see what the deal is in a few more days. obamanomics hits the bench community with a vengence, redistribution of boints lmao:blink:
ROLF!x10

[thebanik]

Though my points didnt drop much but my rank has dropped drastically, looks like its easier to get boints on the new failboat for many.....

[DrNip]

I just hope they have put some work into the slowness of their site. It kills me at times. I see they have a new category for max FSB. I wonder if that is going to include max BCLK or if that will be a different category. I hope a different category as there is quite a contrast there. I am liking the new achievements they have. I feel for Classic Platforms though as it looks like they are taking a big hit in points. All in all the Bot has knocked the skin off the ball on this new revision. Oh and that 3d problem I mentioned a couple pages ago are now fixed today and awarded more points on my best 3d benches. Looks like it was them not having the global points awarded yet. They most of heard me. :laughing:

[Witchdoctor]

Yea CP took it hard but OCA seems to have benefited


It sucks for CP as I feel the new format basically dismisses the hardware they have worked so hard on mastering ... not cool IMO


They need to just leave ti alone IMO

[Bones]

It could also mean discouraging new OC'ers from getting into the sport too. Not everyone can afford the new stuff and must make do with what's available to them. With a economy still trying to recover and no real upswing in jobs resulting in hours being trimmed down for those of us still working, that makes it more of an issue.
I'm thankful to still have my job at least and just getting by for now with not alot of $$ to spare on stuff, otherwise I would have replaced the bad DDR3 RAM in my AM3 build by now along with other improvements.

[lakeside2189]

Looks like they are changing it as we speak!!!!! As a friend in the top 50 said...The top 100 will be forced to bench the older stuff which in return will lower the scores of the ones below in time..short time!!!! As it is now these scores have not been messed with..That will change...Also people will be shooting for the ORB score rather than the Bots score...

[Neuromancer]

Still down for upgrades. I am interested to see what exactly has changed because when I looked at it last it did not make a lot of sense to me. I understand the GPU change, but not what happened to the CPU stuff.

[lakeside2189]

Did you notice everybody's point sig is down..Must be into it....I looked yesterday and was shocked..I was actually up 5 points from before....I never even joined Bots until I started with the I7....:blink:

I thought for sure i would wipe out......

[thebanik]

Though it definitely is great for me but 3d rankings instead of GPU's should have been based on cards. With rev3 5870 will be the top most single GPU card which is as such great for a short on cash OCer like me, but I am sure sales on 5890 and dual GPU's would drop drastically....Also as Neuro said changes in CPU cores doesnt make much sense IMO but I wont complain, according to the test server I am pretty close to Top most ranking for 1 core processors which has netted me a good amount of hardware points......

[DrNip]

Did you notice everybody's point sig is down..Must be into it....I looked yesterday and was shocked..I was actually up 5 points from before....I never even joined Bots until I started with the I7....:blink:

I thought for sure i would wipe out......


You will have to go to the signature page and force a refresh, Ctrl + F5.

[rickss69]

From 450+ points to this...total horseshit.

http://hwbot.org/community/user/rickss69?tab=profile

[DrNip]

The points aren't still official as I gained 10 points within 17 minutes of my last post two posts up. I was in 3rd place with 316.4 points and Chuchnit in 2nd place with 316.5 points. Now I am in 2nd place with 326.4 points and Chuchnit in 3rd with 317.4 points.

One thing that confuses me is if they are going by how many cores on the CPU then why are they calling it sockets on the submission page? Kinda confusing if you ask me as many of people will prolly say 1 socket on their dual or quad core CPU's.

[thebanik]

I was being optimistic earlier and now disappointed, me lost around 125 points as well, but I got it all planned out, did 5870 benching a few days ago, time to upload and see how much global do I net, but I bet I still wont be able to reach my earlier boints or ranking, and seriously some people have benefited hugely.......In the overclocker league till my rank, I had the worst drop, -100

[Gutterz]

I went up 40 points woot lol. Just submitted my benches from yesturday... still calculating

[lakeside2189]

I actually went up 5 points..Thought i would tank....But Boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

It's a good thing i benched the 5870...That is all my points....:Dizzy:

[lakeside2189]

I still can't get use to this score being worth 2.7 points:Dizzy::Dizzy::Dizzy:

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=932318

[Gutterz]

that sux. how does it compare to it as a single card?

[RomDominance]

Worth 5bts (http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=934963)
Worth 43bts (http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=935068)

[Gutterz]

Im going threw every screenie an link I have. Glad I save all my shots i didnt think were worth a crap.
I have a 601 fsb Sc an cpuz. Put me in hall of fame rank 12 http://hwbot.org/benchmark.application.info.do?applicationId=18&tab=rankings

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/474910.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=474910)

I had a Gold earlier for the 920 dont know were that went. It dissapeared after I submitted 2 more Ref clock submissions

these points are takin forever to update on the sig

[lakeside2189]

I was being optimistic earlier and now disappointed, me lost around 125 points as well, but I got it all planned out, did 5870 benching a few days ago, time to upload and see how much global do I net, but I bet I still wont be able to reach my earlier boints or ranking, and seriously some people have benefited hugely.......In the overclocker league till my rank, I had the worst drop, -100


This reminds me of when Coca Cola came out with there new formula...It was a total bomb...They had to come out a month later with Classic Coke.....:laughing:
I see on another one of the top 12 team forums they are telling there benchers to leave the multi cards alone and concentrate on single GPU benches......That is sad!!!!

[Kal-EL]

Ima just bench whatever the he'll it is that itches and let the bonts fall where they will. Right now gulftown is itchin pretty bad.

[RomDominance]

Ironically my Clark bar is itchin pretty bad brother Supes!
Any hot little hawaiin honeys who are good at overclockin that you know that could help me with that?:blink:;)

[Kal-EL]

Rogue's getting better ;)

[DrNip]

Yep points are still changing as I type. We are now in 2nd place in the US. I went from 325 to 385.

[lakeside2189]

Ironically my Clark bar is itchin pretty bad brother Supes!
Any hot little hawaiin honeys who are good at overclockin that you know that could help me with that?:blink:;)
That is Funny Chit!!!!!!!:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing :

You are a funny guy...Really!!!!!
:happy1:

[lakeside2189]

Yep points are still changing as I type. We are now in 2nd place in the US. I went from 325 to 385.
Geez, They are going up....I don't think this Peckerwood has ever had 140 points....I might have to get out my 5870.....

I am sure they will go back down......

[Rogue210]

Rogue's getting better ;)

:shock:Hey no pimpin' me out :P

[Gutterz]

yea Im never going to delete a submission again! ever. I have over 400 screenshots between photobucket an my hd. Im still going threw them sifting points out.

[thebanik]

yea Im never going to delete a submission again! ever. I have over 400 screenshots between photobucket an my hd. Im still going threw them sifting points out.

yup, I regret checking hwbot 10 times before posting my scores, if they couldnt earn points I never posted them, sad shouldnt have done that........

[Gutterz]

Important Bugfix: Hardware Points to 50% instead of 33% (http://www.hwbot.org/article/news/important_bugfix_hardware_points_to_50_instead_of_ 33)

[Kal-EL]

I thank my mentor spfoam1, he taught me to submit every single run as if it was a world record because you never know when you get that freekishly fast run that you never get again. Up 69 points from yesterday. :D

[Kal-EL]

Maxmem looks like its getting ready for points. http://www.hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4473

[DrNip]

I cant get the bs of a bench to submit. Keeps saying "Maxxpi.net Submit *NOT* Successful - [CRC wrong].

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[Kal-EL]

I haven't tried it yet. Prolly needs bug work. They haven't even setup the rules yet but there are a few submissions.

[Kal-EL]

bugs reportedly http://www.hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4500

[Neuromancer]

You try just submitting to one at a time instead of both?

[Kal-EL]

Apparently it won't validate no matter how you run it and they are accepting submission like that for now.

[DrNip]

Hmmm must be new because yesterday when I submitted it the bot kick the submission back and said it was invalid. I will have to try it again.

[Jeffro64]

Tha bot has been down for days for me.... even the link Supes posted is dead for me. Not sure what is going on.

[DrNip]

Its off and on. I assume they are working on it.

[Jeffro64]

Ahhh.... ok.

[Gutterz]

I have not been able to check my profile on hwbot. I can see everyone elses but not mine.
Here is my link http://www.hwbot.org/community/user/gutterz is it broken? lol

[lakeside2189]

I have not been able to check my profile on hwbot. I can see everyone elses but not mine.
Here is my link http://www.hwbot.org/community/user/gutterz is it broken? lol
Yes, your correct. I can't see it either..Just for the record i was like that 2 days ago...I could see my total but no porfile then it came back..I am sure it will return soon....:Dizzy:

[Witchdoctor]

Congats OCA you have secured 2nd in the US :clapping:

seems the new format will be good for OCA :cool3:

Keep on benching as we will be working hard to catch up ..... :Dizzy:

Nice work guys and gals :thumbsup:

[Kal-EL]

Yah, hey thanks WD, it was nothing special really, just sorta happened :blink:



@gutterz, same here, can't see you're profile either. You want me to make a post at hwbot or pm the admin for yah?

[Gutterz]

yes plz.

[TheDarkN8]

Damn, we need like 5000 points to beat the #1 in the U.S.A.

[RomDominance]

Your gonna need 5k just to stay out in front of us.:cool3:

[punx223]

Your gonna need 5k just to stay out in front of us.:cool3:


meh.... we will make short work of dismantling your dysfunctional little family err fleet :morpheus:

[DrNip]

I cant get the bs of a bench to submit. Keeps saying "Maxxpi.net Submit *NOT* Successful - [CRC wrong].

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Ok, bonehead me didn't realize I was still using 1.71. I downloaded the newest version but guess I deleted it instead of the older version. 1.74 doesn't have this problem.

[Kal-EL]

Ok, bonehead me didn't realize I was still using 1.71. I downloaded the newest version but guess I deleted it instead of the older version. 1.74 doesn't have this problem.

Right on Popcorn :D thats the kinda cutting edge overclockaholics we have :thumbsup:
lol :taunt:

[Witchdoctor]

"Damn, we need like 5000 points to beat the #1 in the U.S.A."

XS just has to many guns .....

we are just 13 not sure how many you guys have but XS has a ton of poeple posting for them .....

NBOC will be putting the heat on to reclaim the second spot so keep on benching guys. This should prove to be a lot of fun for all of of us

Make no mistake my OCA friends .... sitting on your hands won't get it done ....:taunt:

[Kal-EL]

With all the phase units you guys are running, I don't doubt it'll be a tough year to say the least.

:Hi:

[punx223]

i am awaiting a possible hardware sale so that i can procure a worthy pot for subzero benching as my dunek has horrible swing when under I7 load :thumbdown:


it just cant take the load under a wprime or vantage load at all

Duniek = FAIL (performance is just about as bad as his shipping) :laughing:

[Kal-EL]

Gutterz has a member PAGE! :D

[Gutterz]

Gutterz has a member PAGE! :D

lmao ya I thought I was in trouble their for a hot minute for 18 month old submissions.
But it was all good this mornin.

[lakeside2189]

"Damn, we need like 5000 points to beat the #1 in the U.S.A."

XS just has to many guns .....

we are just 13 not sure how many you guys have but XS has a ton of poeple posting for them .....

NBOC will be putting the heat on to reclaim the second spot so keep on benching guys. This should prove to be a lot of fun for all of of us

Make no mistake my OCA friends .... sitting on your hands won't get it done ....:taunt:
Witchy.....aren't you the one with a rig the size of a basement????
us sitting on hands?????
this 2nd place thing really seems to be bothering you????

Just fire up the downstairs and you got us!!!!:laughing:
Just messing about bro!!!!! I have 5 decent subs with the 5970 that don't even point...I am really depressed right now....Not a great time for hardware Junkie's!!! Must endeaver to persavere!!!!

[lakeside2189]

My boints are jumping off me like flea's jumping off a dog with a fresh fleaguard collar....

[punx223]

yeah my points are dropping some too ?

[Neuromancer]

The points issue has garnered so much attention that I do not see anyone complaining about how much the new site sucks

The old site was really poorly setup, but the new one... its like the took what suck was halfway decent about it and F'ed it up with some glamour style layout, so information is even harder to find. Seriously WTF is up with those guys?

[Assassin48]

I'm guessing it has something to do with there sponsors now.

they are trying to hide the problems with the site with a nicer layout so they don't lose that $$$

[Kal-EL]

Anybody know a really good db coder?