A new package in the mail!!

[karmakazi]

Got a few new toys to play with:clapping::cool3:

Going to do some air testing tonight and get some vantage scores on the table (I have ZERO vantage points @ the bot:blush:). Gonne use the new cat 9.12's that boost scores by quite a bit.

Will update as I go along :D

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9430/img5551x.jpg

[lakeside2189]

You Package guys..You remind me..of me!!!:thumbsup:

I got a package today too.. Will try it out Friday....

Can't push em like you can with the H20 rig but it should be fun just the same!!:clapping:

Got a unexpected XFX 5970 Black..You think it will work with a HIS 5970 since it has this special voltage tweak????Will the MSI AB work with the two crossed up?

[RomDominance]

Should work ok LS....I rigged up my second Saphire OC edition 5970 today....promptly picked up a 38k in vantage...B E A utiful !:shock:

Congrats Karmamigo, enjoy buddy!

[Kal-EL]

Uh oh, is that the sound of a can of whooopasss opening?????????????? :shock:

[Neuromancer]

You guys are nuts...

I LOVE IT!

[lakeside2189]

Should work ok LS....I rigged up my second Saphire OC edition 5970 today....promptly picked up a 38k in vantage...B E A utiful !:shock:

Congrats Karmamigo, enjoy buddy!
Thanks..wasn't expecting this or i wouldn't have purchased the HIS...You don't think the special voltage tool for the Black means it won't work with the AB???

I guess i will find out Friday when i get some time off..I am a Electrician for the Catholic Diocese and since it is Christmas if you stood still long enough i would put lights on you...:)
Speaking of Electrician's, I wired in a portable a/c that blows coldddd right on my GPU's when I drop the sides down...Can't wait to see if it helps...

I looked at your Vantage run..Not sure how you clock vantage that high..You have a talent my friend!!!! SWEET RUN!!!!

Uh oh, is that the sound of a can of whooopasss opening?????????????? :shock:
Don't have to worry about me riding along with you big boy..Not til you teach me to be a chemist like you!!!!!!!

I feel it coming..Just don't know where to start....Good to have teammates that will drag me along:good:

You guys are nuts...

I LOVE IT!

N, are you sure you don't want to come to that benching party????:laughing::smackbum:

[RomDominance]

Single stage my freind, -45c is good times. Oh and lots of voltage to my 5970's, they are the oc version so they will clock to a sweet 1k on their cores,....helps too! gl bud:good:

[Neuromancer]

Vantage is ALOT easier than 3d06 :)

[DrNip]

Boy you don't discriminate. Every card is of a different manufacturer!!! HAHA.

[Chicken Patty]

you going to run them in tri fire, or seperately? I'm hoping you are running them in tri fire :D

[Witchdoctor]

I would think both .single CF and Tri fire

Nice ...... I have one hoping for some CF action in the future

That would be 4 in total? didn't review one in the hole ???

[Chicken Patty]

Should be nice to see how they scale single, C/F, and Trifire :D

does your board have 4 PCI-E slots?

[lakeside2189]

Boy you don't discriminate. Every card is of a different manufacturer!!! HAHA.
Well, I purchased the HIS..The rest were sent...Kind of a take this and try it thing....

I am so busy at work that I haven't taken the 5870 out yet...Got some time off this weekend.....maybe???

[Splave]

awesome! enjoy them, once you hit 1000/1300 it takes quite some cpu horsepower
I have 2x VaporX sapphires and have 2 more 5870s comming monday on the 4way board

[karmakazi]

messed around a little today... this is a weak fan on my TRUE. Maybe later tonight I hook up my dryer tube to the outside air w/ a 220CFM delta (its about -5°C here right now).

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1739/31140h.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3787/32208.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7163/318k.jpg

[Neuromancer]

Cold air REALLY Helps.. get them VDDC temps down and crank those volts up :)

Ugh looks like 0 scaling in AM3 :(


Interesting to see very little CPU bottlenecking to with tri fire. 2% gain with a ~8% CPU increase? Sweet

I was posting over at OCF about people incorrectly using hte teerm CPU bottleneck. glad to see I was right

(looking at 295 reviews, I am starting to think that like Intel IGPs nVidia SLI is very CPU limited, more so than the performance would suggest)

[karmakazi]

Yeah the cold air is for the processor though. I need to run the full gamut of benches. prolly do that tomorrow. Im happy with the 950 so far. its clocking decent on the 24x multi which is surprising...

aquamark3 has never scaled with multiple cards (usually just a VERY small gain over single card).

also vantage is almost never cpu bottlenecked, it has nothing to do with 1 2 or 4 cards really. cpu plays a small part in that bench

[lakeside2189]

you going to run them in tri fire, or seperately? I'm hoping you are running them in tri fire :D
You can only run 2 of the 5970's which would be quadfire since there is 2 GPU's per card....I saw somewhere a guy was saying he was running 3 5970's but i don't believe that is possible...They don't have the bridge hook up's for that....I could be wrong????

[Chicken Patty]

You can only run 2 of the 5970's which would be quadfire since there is 2 GPU's per card....I saw somewhere a guy was saying he was running 3 5970's but i don't believe that is possible...They don't have the bridge hook up's for that....I could be wrong????
Didn't you get 5870's though?

[lakeside2189]

No, I had the 5870's but just got the 5970's.....I can see how this would be confusing...sorry...I added my package that i received today with K's....my fault...:Dizzy:

[Chicken Patty]

No, I had the 5870's but just got the 5970's.....I can see how this would be confusing...sorry...I added my package that i received today with K's....my fault...:Dizzy:


Oh ok, then in that case you can only run the two cards (Quad Fire) I dont' believe about that guy running all three neither.

[Kal-EL]

Oh ok, then in that case you can only run the two cards (Quad Fire) I dont' believe about that guy running all three neither.

Not unless they hack the driver.

[Chicken Patty]

That would be Fun. :D

[karmakazi]

Just hooked up the cold air tube we will see what gains that brings for the 950! :D

[Neuromancer]

Not unless they hack the driver.

I seem to recall reading something about more than 4 GPUs being possible in 7... I will have to look around for it though. Might be something "in schedule"

[karmakazi]

I seem to recall reading something about more than 4 GPUs being possible in 7... I will have to look around for it though. Might be something "in schedule"

# of cards is driver limited not OS limited. even if you "hacked it" to allow more it probably would scale really bad

[karmakazi]

Did a little more aquamarking
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8061/324ks.jpg

Small Bump in cpu & tightened mems
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6531/326k.jpg

Bump in cpu & applied some tweaks
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8522/334k.jpg

[Kal-EL]

Nice, we shoulda did Aquamark today too, dammit, forgot about that one, lol.
I'll get the 4-way up and running.

[karmakazi]

aquamark is fast becoming one of my favorite benches.

You can push every system component to the absolute limits and it will still run. Bench responds to tweaking of all kinds. You can squeeze points out almost anywhere

[Neuromancer]

# of cards is driver limited not OS limited. even if you "hacked it" to allow more it probably would scale really bad

Really? Had much luck with 3/4way SLI in XP? heehee

Yes the limitation is handled by drivers, but it is based on OS by decision of operating system. You will probably people to hacdk it for Vista or even XP, but first it will be available as an option with the Windows 7 drivers :) Happy now?

Wasn't it easier to just say it as I originally did?

[karmakazi]

Well XP shouldnt be your Os of choice even if your using only 2 cards much less 3, 4 and above. What I meant was your OS can support 1000 gpu's but if the drivers dont support it... whats the point. And I was additionally replying to the "hacked drivers" statement: because even if you change some parameter in the driver to allow 5 cards, you probably wouldnt see any scaling from the 5th card, since the rest of the driver code isnt optimized to use it.

Anyways back on topic I updated my vantage score a bit:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7999/34577.jpg

[Kal-EL]

Nice! btw, looksl like someone's been submitting gulftown runs at the orb (50K Vantage)
How'd you break 300k in AQ3 at those speeds????????????

[Chicken Patty]

Good runs bro :toast:

[karmakazi]

AQ3 is very sensitive, so ram timings/subtimings & bandwidth play a role as well as of course just raw mhz. Im still bottlenecked by my cpu here, so every little increase in speed on the processor will bump the score up. Never run AQ3 in vista its awful :)

Good runs bro :toast:

Thanks CP!

[Chicken Patty]

For some reason I can't get aquamark to run in W7 :(

[Gutterz]

u need the same patch for Win7 as u do Vista. I wouldnt bother cause it runs like crap just like in Vista an XP 64 in my experience, XP 32 all the way for that Bench

[Chicken Patty]

u need the same patch for Win7 as u do Vista. I wouldnt bother cause it runs like crap just like in Vista an XP 64 in my experience, XP 32 all the way for that Bench
Thanks. Guess I won't even bother then.

[karmakazi]

u need the same patch for Win7 as u do Vista. I wouldnt bother cause it runs like crap just like in Vista an XP 64 in my experience, XP 32 all the way for that Bench

You dont want to use vista thats for sure. You also dont want to use ANY 64 bit OS. XP is ok for it....but 7 32bit is way better ;)

Also you dont need to run any patch. Just navigate to the aquamark directory, and delete the file "Direcpll.dll" and you good to go.

[Gutterz]

Thanks for the heads up. I havent tried 32 bit 7, sorry for being misleading.
How much better in win7 does it run? Looks like Im doing an install soon.

[Chicken Patty]

Thanks guys. I'll give it another go when I RMA the board. For now I'm down from any benching.

[Gutterz]

Im still getting 50k less in Win7 32 compared to Xp32. Any Ideas whats wrong?

[Chuchnit]

Did you turn aero theme off? I honestly haven't benched on win 7, but I know if that is enabled it eats up your vmem.

[Kal-EL]

I don't have any suggestions as running in win 7 32 has always been slow for me. Karmakazi must have the secret to success.

[Neuromancer]

Did you turn aero theme off? I honestly haven't benched on win 7, but I know if that is enabled it eats up your vmem.

Intersting, I thought windows 7 went to Basic visual theme automatically when running a game or a benchmark, always seemed to have done so for me...

[Chuchnit]

Never paid attention buddy. I was just shooting from the hip there on that one. I use RTM for a while on the gaming setup, but never benched with it.

[karmakazi]

I can post screens later (im at work currently) comparing 5870 single card in xp32 vs 7 32. I gained about 12k in win7

My win 7 is a stock install no nlite or anything, vs my xp 3d os which is tweaked to the gills.

[Chicken Patty]

I only notice W7 switch the theme automatically for 3DMark 06.

[lakeside2189]

I think it happens in all the Futuremark stuff...even Vantage..03,05,06

[Chicken Patty]

I think it happens in all the Futuremark stuff...even Vantage..03,05,06
not for me, I just opened up vantage at least, still no change in theme.

[lakeside2189]

I could be mistaken or just not looking at it right...

When i start any of the stuff Van, 03,05,06 a little box pops up at the bottom and says switching to basic....Does that happen with you?????

[Chicken Patty]

I could be mistaken or just not looking at it right...

When i start any of the stuff Van, 03,05,06 a little box pops up at the bottom and says switching to basic....Does that happen with you?????

That's supposed to be normal with the Futuremark products, but it only happens with 3DMark 06 for me and that's it.

[Neuromancer]

I could be mistaken or just not looking at it right...

When i start any of the stuff Van, 03,05,06 a little box pops up at the bottom and says switching to basic....Does that happen with you?????

Works for me last time I ran it... (dont have a bench PC right now to test though)