5870 or 5970

[DrNip]

What to get, the 5870 or 5970? This is the question that plagues me. I wouldn't mind getting the 5870 for now and then pick up one or two more on down the line. But then again I am very found of my 295 and can only imagine I would be of the 5970. Not to mention I would be crossfiring right out of the box for cheaper than two 5870's.

I would like to get your guys input on this.

[lakeside2189]

I don't think you will do much with the 5870 compared to those 295 scores you have.

The 5970 is a different story but what will the rev3 have in store for them if your concerned with Bots...

I am of the same delima...The 5870 is a great card but it only counts if i can beat the 4870x2 top...I have beat it in 3 test and scored small...On the otherside of the coin I like to run fast so would run the 5970 even if Bots doesn't favor them...

I really want to try the 5890's..But When????
Then again, a guy with your talent would have alot of fun with a couple of 5870's..I did!!!

[Neuromancer]

CF scaling will take some time to get straightened out, so from a usability stand point, go single GPU.

However the bencher in me says 5970!!!! Basically 2 5870s for the price of 1.5 :)

Well, maybe not 2x 5870s, dunno if anyone is hitting 1300 core speed on the 5970s

[Kal-EL]

Yah, I dunno brudder, from a boint perspective I think its up in the air what they'll do with the dual gpu, single slot cards. But from a newness perspective, the 5970's seem to be doing some damage so far.

You could prolly bench um right quick and sell um off before you lose any money.

[Kal-EL]

Heres a rev 3 teaster :rroulette:
http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=41407&postcount=353

[lakeside2189]

Yah, I dunno brudder, from a boint perspective I think its up in the air what they'll do with the dual gpu, single slot cards. But from a newness perspective, the 5970's seem to be doing some damage so far.

You could prolly bench um right quick and sell um off before you lose any money.
That is forsure..I just wanted to break even and the vapor-x, sold for 150.00 more than I paid after the ebay and paypal fee...I am guessing the UK is having troble getting there hands on any of these...If I would have used a 3 day auction no telling how high it would have went...:shock:

[DrNip]

Don't really want to jack with flipping cards. Looking for some quick boints as well as gaming card/s for Crysis 2 coming up.

[lakeside2189]

Don't really want to jack with flipping cards. Looking for some quick boints as well as gaming card/s for Crysis 2 coming up.
The more I think about it the more I am sure..I will get a 5970 soon ..I would prefer Asus. I have run with the dual GPU cards for awile and miss it..Also as far as gaming goes I have read great things about the 5970....I will need to do a little mod work on the drive bay brackets but I am committed now..... :happy1:

[2chesapeakes]

The more I think about it the more I am sure..I will get a 5970 soon ..I would prefer Asus. I have run with the dual GPU cards for awile and miss it..Also as far as gaming goes I have read great things about the 5970....I will need to do a little mod work on the drive bay brackets but I am committed now..... :happy1:

You could always get a 5870 now and wait for prices to drop a little on the 5970 then set up 3 way CFX on the 5970 and 5870.

[RomDominance]

Very interesting concept,....how does that work for bot entries?

[thebanik]

Will suggest a 5870 since the 5970 will fall under the category of dual GPU's, and it still wont be able to compete for global points with all those multi card setups, and the rev 3 is gonna be live by January.....Earlier I was also thinking of picking up a 5970 but now I will wait till the weight age of global and hardware points is clarified.....

[DrNip]

Interesting stuff guys. I might just wait to see what and how the bot scores the 5970's and by then the prices should at least be at MSRP or lower.

[RomDominance]

Let me clarify my question. If you were to use a 5970 with a 5870, how would you enter your bench post in the bot? Which hardware category? Furthermore, does a 5970 with two 5870's=quadfire? and how would this config be entered into the bot?

[DrNip]

I dunno if you could do that. At least I have never seen it done.

[Kal-EL]

Looking at the screenshot of Richbastards Revision3 Hwbot engine, it appears to be seperated into cat's, 1GPU, 2GPU, 3GPU, 4GPU.

Wprime is also seperated into cat's. 1CPU, 2CPU, 3CPU, 4CPU, 8CPU, 16CPU, all the way to 64CPU.

[DrNip]

I wonder if we will have to change our previous entries or if the the Bot will for us?

[Kal-EL]

I wonder if we will have to change our previous entries or if the the Bot will for us?

That's a million dollar question. My guess is that we should back up all of our entries because we've all seen what happens when the Matrix scrolls cantonese. :keeporder:

[DrNip]

Be prepared for if we have to change them as the douches will come out and be "report an entry" happy.

[lakeside2189]

Let me clarify my question. If you were to use a 5970 with a 5870, how would you enter your bench post in the bot? Which hardware category? Furthermore, does a 5970 with two 5870's=quadfire? and how would this config be entered into the bot?
This is still a great question..I am sure the 2 will work together...Just like people ran the 4870 and 4870x2 but how would you put it in Bots now?
If they eventually count GPU's then it won't matter but how is it done now???I might want to try this and don't want to put down 2 5970's (4GPU's)...

When rev3 kicks in I am sure there will be no changing...???

[lakeside2189]

You could always get a 5870 now and wait for prices to drop a little on the 5970 then set up 3 way CFX on the 5970 and 5870.
I have the asus 5870 and this is a great idea but the question above needs researching...

[Kal-EL]

This is still a great question..I am sure the 2 will work together...Just like people ran the 4870 and 4870x2 but how would you put it in Bots now?
If they eventually count GPU's then it won't matter but how is it done now???I might want to try this and don't want to put down 2 5970's (4GPU's)...

When rev3 kicks in I am sure there will be no changing...???

Don't quote me but I believe you must submit it under the lower class gpu being mixed into the Fire. I'm not certain tho, "GPU check on isle 2!" :keeporder:

[lakeside2189]

Don't quote me but I believe you must submit it under the lower class gpu being mixed into the Fire. I'm not certain tho, "GPU check on isle 2!" :keeporder:
Like 3 5870's?? that would be fair....Tri 5870's....I like it.. That also is the only thing that could make since.....Thanks...

[2chesapeakes]

Don't quote me but I believe you must submit it under the lower class gpu being mixed into the Fire. I'm not certain tho, "GPU check on isle 2!" :keeporder:

In the past you would have had to list it as to of the higher class GPU's for example 1 4870x2 and 1 4870 had to be submitted as 2 4870x2. I never understood this concept but it was the bot's requirement. I like the idea of submitting based on number of GPU's. Now let's see how that works out.

[thebanik]

This is still a great question..I am sure the 2 will work together...Just like people ran the 4870 and 4870x2 but how would you put it in Bots now?
If they eventually count GPU's then it won't matter but how is it done now???I might want to try this and don't want to put down 2 5970's (4GPU's)...

When rev3 kicks in I am sure there will be no changing...???

Simple, the word used is GPU and not card. 4870x2, GTX295 and 5970 are all dual GPU's so will compete with the likes of 2 x 5870, 2 x GTX285, this has been discussed in the hwbot thread........Also a single guy can only compete for 1 Global category for a particular benchmark. Which means you can pick 4 x 5870, pick a benchmark like Vantage, get the best score for 4 GPU category and Global Points, but your score for 3, 2 or 1 GPU will earn you only hardware points. So basically from 2 Global Categories(1 card and Multiple Card) for each 3d benchmark there will be only 1 Global Category in rev3.......

[lakeside2189]

If that is correct i think that is a big mistake on there part...With todays economy, the way it is, the last thing any forum should want to do is run people away..Bots is a forum..First and foremost...People make it happen for them..They seem very proud of there 20,000 member mark...If I were them i would be coming up with ways to keep the 20,000 and not run them off...I only say this because the average guy that likes to bench will dissapear if he can't score..
It's just like the old saying..I will play as long as there's a chance of winning..I won't play if there's not...
I only say these things because I am a average bencher and ranked 750 out of 20,000. There must be alot like me...

Sorry, don't get me started...Just an opinion...:blush:
I lost it I know!!! Really let me have it..I feel so putzish!!!!!!