34k plus pls

[skarface]

Well here is the first rune guys! I did get my goal of 30plus but i was sorta looking at 34 :D

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/jltromba/1.jpg

[Chuchnit]

Hey bro I thought you had a Q9550. It might take a lot of work to get to your 34k goal. Also when you post up a screenshot, if you could also show us a memory tab on cpuz that would be great. It would be just another thing we can help you tweak if we know where you're at.

[skarface]

Hey bro I thought you had a Q9550. It might take a lot of work to get to your 34k goal. Also when you post up a screenshot, if you could also show us a memory tab on cpuz that would be great. It would be just another thing we can help you tweak if we know where you're at.

Doh! I thought about it but it would just switch as u know so most people open up two apps of cpuz one mem and one cpu??

[Kal-EL]

Doh! I thought about it but it would just switch as u know so most people open up two apps of cpuz one mem and one cpu??
Yes, open cpu-z as many times as required by the benchmark, usually cpu,mem,mobo,spd.
Heres a few sample shots of the widely accepted as legit and standard screenshot:
VANTAGE:
http://www.x-cade.com/uploads/Supes/Superman/AllBenchmarks/q9650/3dVantage/Vantage14053.jpeg
WPRIME32M:
http://www.x-cade.com/uploads/Supes/Superman/AllBenchmarks/q9650/wprime/7_296_qx96540.jpeg

[skarface]

Yes, open cpu-z as many times as required by the benchmark, usually cpu,mem,mobo,spd.
Heres a few sample shots of the widely accepted as legit and standard screenshot:
VANTAGE:

WPRIME32M:



Ohhh okay i see but i assure u that is my score but nice 14K good job :rofl












































now that was a joke LMAO!!!

[Kal-EL]

Oh here we go, the trash talking begins.

Go download the rest of the 3dmark benches. 01-03-05-06. Don't forget Aquamark3. Hit the download button for wprime at wprime.net, and pick up Super Pi Mod (latest version).

Head on over to Hwbot.org, create an account with the same forum name you have here, join "Overclockaholics" as your team. Start submitting benchmark runs and gaining points. When you reach the same amount of points as Chuchnit, we'll give you his training wheels :D

pm me for the password to join our hwbot team once you've registered at hwbot.org :trophy:

[Chuchnit]

Nobody gets my training wheels. They are all mine ;)

[skarface]

Oh here we go, the trash talking begins.

Go download the rest of the 3dmark benches. 01-03-05-06. Don't forget Aquamark3. Hit the download button for wprime at wprime.net, and pick up Super Pi Mod (latest version).

Head on over to Hwbot.org, create an account with the same forum name you have here, join "Overclockaholics" as your team. Start submitting benchmark runs and gaining points. When you reach the same amount of points as Chuchnit, we'll give you his training wheels :D

pm me for the password to join our hwbot team once you've registered at hwbot.org :trophy:

:rofl I might im really not that serious in benching yet due to knowledge im a strait up noob at this and know just enough to f something up awesome. Only thing i really know is 3d mark vantage and how to oc the cpu a lil and vid cards! I by no means have the tools to do what u guys do maybe chuchnit can show me the ropes. I really have no spares and blowing up my gaming rig would be stupid of me because then i couldnt game and thats what i do mostly!

[Chuchnit]

:rofl I might im really not that serious in benching yet due to knowledge im a strait up noob at this and know just enough to f something up awesome. Only thing i really know is 3d mark vantage and how to oc the cpu a lil and vid cards! I by no means have the tools to do what u guys do maybe chuchnit can show me the ropes. I really have no spares and blowing up my gaming rig would be stupid of me because then i couldnt game and thats what i do mostly!

Hold your horses there bud. I'm a noob4life :rofl I'm probably gonna buy 25lbs of dice Friday morning and start benching about 3 or 4pm until she's all gone. Gimme a call later this evening :cheers:

[Kal-EL]

:rofl I might im really not that serious in benching yet due to knowledge im a strait up noob at this and know just enough to f something up awesome. Only thing i really know is 3d mark vantage and how to oc the cpu a lil and vid cards! I by no means have the tools to do what u guys do maybe chuchnit can show me the ropes. I really have no spares and blowing up my gaming rig would be stupid of me because then i couldnt game and thats what i do mostly!

Your call but running 3dmarks01-06 doesnt blow up ur rig, just gives a performance measure to compar by. Overclocking is what kills, you'll probably get points for mild overclocks and contribute to our team.

No pressure man, but I gotta say, learning how to tweak and obersving performance difference across the benchmarks and familiarizing myself with each is what gave me all the pc knowledge I currently have. Its all a learning process.

I'd still like to see what those cards and setup do across the benchmarks. Did you use the physx drivers on that run?

[skarface]

Your call but running 3dmarks01-06 doesnt blow up ur rig, just gives a performance measure to compar by. Overclocking is what kills, you'll probably get points for mild overclocks and contribute to our team.

No pressure man, but I gotta say, learning how to tweak and obersving performance difference across the benchmarks and familiarizing myself with each is what gave me all the pc knowledge I currently have. Its all a learning process.

I'd still like to see what those cards and setup do across the benchmarks. Did you use the physx drivers on that run?

Im running 182.08 with physx.

[Chuchnit]

If you don't mind, when you do another run turn off physx to give us something to compare to.

[skarface]

If you don't mind, when you do another run turn off physx to give us something to compare to.

okay:eek2: but y do some want to compare with no phy and most do with???? On the evga forum no one goes off of no phy?

[Kal-EL]

okay:eek2: but y do some want to compare with no phy and most do with???? On the evga forum no one goes off of no phy?

:rofl Mostly because the vast majority of Evga members are noobs. Then theres the fact that Evga worked for/with Nvidia exclusively prior to the release of Nehalem architecture, so, the Evga scores section and Vantage runs stood to gain the most positive review by using the physx drivers. This makes the Nvidia cards appear to stand out against ATI cards.

The reason NVIDIA is upset about the cheating claims is because they didn't do anything other than allow the workload to run on the GPU. The way 3DMark Vantage runs the benchmark remains the same as if a dedicated PPU was installed (adding more worlds to the workload). With parallel computing headed to the GPU it only makes sense that benchmarks take this into account. The problem here it seems is that NVIDIA came out with the drivers before the industry had the benchmarks ready. When Futuremark Vantage was designed the AGEIA PhysX SDK was used and a discrete Physical Processing Unit was needed to offload the benchmark DLLs from the CPU to the PPU. We showed this in our article about 3DMark Vantage (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/703/1/) the day the benchmark came out. We dedicated an entire page to offloading PhysX to a PPU (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/703/4/) and no one cried that it was cheating moving the DLLs from the CPU to the PPU. Now that NVIDIA had moved the workloads from the CPU to the GPU they are accused of cheating!

On the world stage, true overclockers have recognized this shortfall and disparity and when comparing true gpu performance, overclockers agree that to truly compare ATI/Nvidia, you must disable the physx drivers in the Nvidia control panel.

The only enthusiast forum you will see a majority of Physx used drivers when posting benchmarks is EVGA. But, even EVGA staff, moderators and Enthusiasts have agreed it is an un-realistic comparison when using physx drivers.

Hwbot.org is the largest world database for overclocking and is currently the reigning authority on hardware performance information. Physx drivers benchmark submissions are rejected at Hwbot.org.

Furthermore, Futuremark, the maker of 3dmarkVantage, will not list your score as valid if you use the physx drivers as they have also recognized this offloading and bypassing of the cpu onto gpu. Vince a.k.a. K|ngp|n, the current 3dmark world record holder does not use physx drivers and if he did, futuremark would invalidate his submissions to the ORB.

Physx in some cases can be a great performance boost for some games and I applaud its purpose in gaming but when it comes down to which GPU actually performs flatout best, physx use is not permissible in the equation.

If I've missed some points here guys, feel free to chime in. You know I'm still a Noob4Life baby :ash1:

[skarface]

So ati doesnt use phy? And if not wouldnt that make nvidia better being that it gets a so called boost?? I mean whats the point of boosting "performance or benching" when the boost isnt being used???? I use phy everytime i play a game so if maxing out an ati/nvidia card if the nvidia has more options to use y would those not be used doesnt make sence if one card performes better with something enable but turn it off to bring everything on the same playing field. Thats like someone bringing a car with 300 hp and i bring mine with nitrous and 500 hp y should i turn my nitrous off when thats what i have? I have seen this tho were people comapre with phy off only never understood it tho.

[Chuchnit]

So ati doesnt use phy? And if not wouldnt that make nvidia better being that it gets a so called boost?? I mean whats the point of boosting "performance or benching" when the boost isnt being used???? I use phy everytime i play a game so if maxing out an ati/nvidia card if the nvidia has more options to use y would those not be used doesnt make sence if one card performes better with something enable but turn it off to bring everything on the same playing field. Thats like someone bringing a car with 300 hp and i bring mine with nitrous and 500 hp y should i turn my nitrous off when thats what i have? I have seen this tho were people comapre with phy off only never understood it tho.



Well it's not excepted by futuremark for the reason that it goes against what Futuremark intended for the benchmark. Why do you think your CPU score is so high in vantage? It's because the CPU didn't do the work. That alters the integrety of the benchmark. The CPU test portion of the bench was/is intended to test how well the CPU can handle physics operations. I hear ya on your arguement, and it's been repeated by many thousands of times, but it is what it is.

To answer your first part, no ATI does not use physx. Maybe it does make nvidia better as far as gaming in games that utilize the physx engine. The problem is that not many games utilize physx. Just because you have it enabled in the cp, that doesn't mean you are actually using the function in most of your games.

[Kal-EL]

I fudged the gpu to cpu offloading in my initial post, its vice verca cpu offload to gpu/ppu. Correction made.

[skarface]

Hold your horses there bud. I'm a noob4life :rofl I'm probably gonna buy 25lbs of dice Friday morning and start benching about 3 or 4pm until she's all gone. Gimme a call later this evening :cheers:

I called and left a dumb msg like he chucky or something along those lines! I wana see this pot and dice!

[Chuchnit]

Sorry bud, I got called into work for a couple of hours. I'll hit ya back as soon as I have time.

[Kal-EL]

I called and left a dumb msg like he chucky or something along those lines! I wana see this pot and dice!

Sorry bud, I got called into work for a couple of hours. I'll hit ya back as soon as I have time.

Thanks skarface, thought I was the only one crackin the whip around here :wh2:fight3

[skarface]

Thanks skarface, thought I was the only one crackin the whip around here :wh2:fight3

:tg: :rofl

[skarface]

Your call but running 3dmarks01-06 doesnt blow up ur rig, just gives a performance measure to compar by. Overclocking is what kills, you'll probably get points for mild overclocks and contribute to our team.

No pressure man, but I gotta say, learning how to tweak and obersving performance difference across the benchmarks and familiarizing myself with each is what gave me all the pc knowledge I currently have. Its all a learning process.

I'd still like to see what those cards and setup do across the benchmarks. Did you use the physx drivers on that run?

:smackbum: thanks man no one bothered to give me the password for our team on the hwbot website so i could register very funny:rofl!

[Kal-EL]

Oh here we go, the trash talking begins.

Go download the rest of the 3dmark benches. 01-03-05-06. Don't forget Aquamark3. Hit the download button for wprime at wprime.net, and pick up Super Pi Mod (latest version).

Head on over to Hwbot.org, create an account with the same forum name you have here, join "Overclockaholics" as your team. Start submitting benchmark runs and gaining points. When you reach the same amount of points as Chuchnit, we'll give you his training wheels :D

pm me for the password to join our hwbot team once you've registered at hwbot.org :trophy:

Just in case you missed it while reading thru the first time around :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[skarface]

Just in case you missed it while reading thru the first time around :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Yea i missed that u should have typed it that big the first time! :bow2:

[DrNip]

:boobies:

[skarface]

alright now on the current 3dmarkvantage u need a key so what about all these?

3dmark benches. 01-03-05-06. Don't forget Aquamark3. Hit the download button for wprime at wprime.net, and pick up Super Pi Mod (latest version).

Also i noticed prime y run prime on something oced to the max when its only used for benching not for actually using a pc with those settings?

[DrNip]

Vantage is the only one you will need a key for. The others are either free or the basics for free.

I'm confused on your last question.

[skarface]

Vantage is the only one you will need a key for. The others are either free or the basics for free.

I'm confused on your last question.

Correct me if im wrong but isnt prime to see how stable a pc is with current over clocks and see how long the computer runs properly for before something fails????

[DrNip]

Oh ok, you are speaking of prime95. Prime95 is a stability test. W/Prime is different. It is a 2d benchmark that HWBot uses.

[skarface]

Oh ok, you are speaking of prime95. Prime95 is a stability test. W/Prime is different. It is a 2d benchmark that HWBot uses.

Ohhh okay now im trackin!

[Kal-EL]

Click on the links for each benchmark to download:

http://www.overclockaholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50

[spfoam1]

Did you use the physx drivers on that run?

I'll answer that for him.....YES.

[skarface]

Did you use the physx drivers on that run?

I'll answer that for him.....YES.

Yes?????

[Chuchnit]

Yes?????

Foamer didn't realize that you are gunning for a spot on evga. I take it he thought you were trying to post up a physx enabled run for some other reason :confused:

[skarface]

Foamer didn't realize that you are gunning for a spot on evga. I take it he thought you were trying to post up a physx enabled run for some other reason :confused:


ohh okay. Sorta funny to asking a question when u already know the answer to when u can just get to the point and ask the real question " y did u do a bench with physx enabled".

Well on evga all the tops rigs are with physx enabled so if i had done one without it i wouldnt be on the list lol also because im a noob ocer!