5870 test

[lakeside2189]

Just got a hold of 3 of the Asus cards..Demo stuff..My pockets are not that deep...These are the best made and looking big cards i have ever seen..Don't have to worry about these bending on ya in a case even at 11 inches long..It seems all cards have there Futuremark test they like the best...I haven't tweaked the cards at all..Just wanted to see how they would run....Beat my 3D03 score with 2 4870x2's maxed at 4.600...Will try more things later...

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/157211.jpg

[Kal-EL]

Excellent! :D
blow up some benches bro.

[lakeside2189]

These really are a major improvement as far as sound and temps over the 4870x2..Took 1 out and ran 2 for 3D06...2 of these beat my top
x2 and I havent choked the cards at all...Not really sure about tweaking the voltage but will figure it out...Kal? This is at 4.5

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/30949.png

[lakeside2189]

still running cards stock..Beat my 3D05 score with 2 of the 5870's.....Better than 2 of the 4870x2's...ran these at 4.600 with ease....Must try the voltage tweak and could use some advice before i blow these pretty things up...

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/39997.png

[RomDominance]

Very nice Lakeside, I would love to get my hands on a few of those! Where are those heading once your done? They would do real well with my W3520 in front of em @ 5GHz.....one can dream. :alien:

[lakeside2189]

Actually sending 2 of these to a friend at the forum..I am assured the 5890 will come after fermi...With the new bots ruling I will wait on those.I also can't fit the 5970 in my case..These just fit...Do you run that 5.0 on H20??? Just wondering...I can't get over 4.625...It could be me!!!!:ohcrap:

[RomDominance]

Nah bro, SS. When I had my 920 on water, I was limited to 4.65 as well.

[punx223]

very nice runs bro :ohcrap:

got the big guns.... tahts what i need are gpus

[lakeside2189]

Thanks bro, I am really just a beginner.. 1 year old OCer..But I like to learn and I'm not scared...Maybe thats not such a good combo!!!:laughing:

[Kal-EL]

Thanks bro, I am really just a beginner.. 1 year old OCer..But I like to learn and I'm not scared...Maybe thats not such a good combo!!!:laughing:

FYI, the latest afterburner version has the ability to remove the ccc clock limits. I haven't used the latest version yet but the info is out there.

I'll dig up my screenshots with the old afterburner open and showing the settings and post it here when i get back from work.

:cool3:

[lakeside2189]

Thanks bro...I will copy your stuff and run with it...for sure...

I can see now I want a classy...Going to be like learning all over again but that's half the fun...which one will work the best on H20....I can get the asus stuff at discount so i might as well spend on a classy...Now to decide what gpu's to run with it.....

[lakeside2189]

Ran 3D03 with 2 of the 5870's..Just 2000 under my score with 2 4870x2 tops..Still no GPU tweaks...I must get better!!!!!!

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/131532-1.png

[lakeside2189]

Tryed 1 5870 with 3D05..Kinda weak..But still just 500 points less than my 4870x2....This is still with stock 5870..Can you tell nothing embarrasses me????;)
On a side note..I am truly colored blind..all Black white and grays..Something is different...It is brighter..and i can't find the forum index...Kinda strange a guy that is colored blind that likes 3D colored graphics??? I can tell when they are good even with the Black and White..Must have something to do with Kal's top statement...

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/35126.png

[Neuromancer]

Okay enough of the stock clock bugga boo. Start OCing :)

[lakeside2189]

OK!!!! 3D05
Raised the core and memory to 925/1255...The voltage tweak doesn't seem to do much..Maybe it's me!!!
I did also raise the CPU OC to 4.650..A big Thanks to 69_Goat for giving me some pointers on how to get more out of the P6T7..You were spot on...Never had it to 4.650 before...
Really wish I had talked to you before sending 2 of these to Canada...

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/35612.png

[69_Goat]

Your welcome, LS. Glad to help out where I can.
If you go over to i4memory.com, EVA2000 is posting lots of info for OC'ing a w3570 on an ASUS P6T6 board, a very similar setup to what you have. He also posts lots of info for mem tweaking including all the sub timings.
For this 5870, you might want to try the new MSI Afterburner app. I've heard of good results with it, not only for these cards, but past gen cards as well.

[lakeside2189]

Your welcome, LS. Glad to help out where I can.
If you go over to i4memory.com, EVA2000 is posting lots of info for OC'ing a w3570 on an ASUS P6T6 board, a very similar setup to what you have. He also posts lots of info for mem tweaking including all the sub timings.
For this 5870, you might want to try the new MSI Afterburner app. I've heard of good results with it, not only for these cards, but past gen cards as well.
Thanks..I will look at the MSI program..I am a member of I4 and once on there BOTS team..EVA knows his ram..But don't sell yourself short..You showed me a couple of things that really made a difference...I printed your thoughts and they work!!!:clapping:
I really like this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chuchnit]

+1 rep for 69_Goat :thumbsup: Way to help out buddy. Great job!!


Lakeside, those are some nice scores your pumping out :eek::thumbsup: How hot is that CPU running at 1.5+vcore? Might need to put that one under sub-zero. Might have a leaky one there :thumbsup:

[Neuromancer]

heh heh He has a GTX it can handle the heat :)

[lakeside2189]

Thanks bro, Neuro is right..The GTX is totally for the cpu and seems to handle it..3.9 or 4.0 24/7.. 30 ish or low 60's with full LinX...
The 343b also helps..All the sides come off when benching...Goat really came up with some things I needed to know...Great site..There is still a few that will help a newb out.....

[Kal-EL]

Heres the screenys I could dig up broski HIH:

http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/5870/18893_4500mhz_1000_1250_5870_AB.JPG
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/5870/19070_4500mhz_1075_1275_5870_AB.JPG
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/5870/19353_4500mhz_1100_1300_5870_AB.JPG
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/5870/271878_4400mhz_STockGPU_AB.JPG
http://www.overclockaholics.com/Kal/5870/93829_4500mhz_1050_1250_AB.JPG

[Kal-EL]

Here is the thread I was following at Guru about msi afterburner.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=306272

[lakeside2189]

Man, you are really kickin it with that afterburner program..Big difference with the single card 3d06 and 03....I have a problem with my Vantage program...

[Kal-EL]

Wish I spent more time on it but thats getting fixed ;)

[lakeside2189]

Finally got the Vantage program fixed...Nothing like Kal with no voltage tweak but with one 5870 I beat all my 4870x2 cards including the top by 500 points at 4475...Haven't pushed it hard yet..One tuff single GPU card at 910/1240

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/18566.png

[Kal-EL]

Are you using the msi afterburner yet?
I'm sure you'll pinch up the voltage soon enough, its innevitable lol. :D

Killer scores btw :good:

[lakeside2189]

Not Yet, Can you just get there software off there site?? I am probably going to copy you..Hope you don't mind...I've been known to do that..I can't help it..It's a newb thing I know but it works so well!!!:clapping:

[69_Goat]

Here is the DL link:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/MSI-AfterBurner-1.40-download-2410.html

[Kal-EL]

Go to installed directory of MSI Afterburner, default: C:\Program file\MSI Afterburner
Use notepad to edit “MSIAfterburner.cfg”
Change the parameter of “EnableUnofficialOverclocking” from “0” to “1”.
999Direct from MSI (http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/images/MSIAfterburnerSetup140.zip)
Sometimes GURU3D adds junk files and google bars to their shit.

[Neuromancer]

Dunno about the new cards, the new afterburner limited me to 1.35 Volts. I use riva with config and Volterra plugin to jam up to 1.45v through my 4890 :), then Afterburner for OCing.

Oh and when ever I make an adjustment to Core/mem I have to adjust fan speed too or it drops back to "stock" (still reads whatever I had set it to previously)

[lakeside2189]

I am going to load the MSI today..I did load the new GPU-Z and it finally shows the speed I have on the card...940/1265..No voltage yet but I'm getting there!!!:shock:

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/19024.png

[Kal-EL]

Nice :D

[lakeside2189]

Downloaded the MSI software and it is easier to use and more effective than asus's...
First try with 3D06 and running 4.525 thanks to the 69_goat's OCing advice!!

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/27920.png

[DrNip]

I couldn't stand DrMos or whatever the Asus software was called.

[lakeside2189]

Not only does the MSI program help with voltage tweak but allows a larger core and memory clock than the ATI CCC or the Asus program... 1005/1311

I caught Kal!!!!

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/19852.png

[Kal-EL]

Yep and with less gpu clocks too. Good Job!

[lakeside2189]

You were right about the MSI..BIG difference!!! Should of held on to the other cards longer!!!! I can't catch you in 03 and 06 and I can't figure how you are doing it at 4.5...But I am getting better..

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/92236.png

[TheDarkN8]

Can you get the core higher?

[2chesapeakes]

Not only does the MSI program help with voltage tweak but allows a larger core and memory clock than the ATI CCC or the Asus program... 1005/1311

I caught Kal!!!!

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/19852.png

Here is another score for you to beat.
MB - R2E
Single 5870 @ 1060 GPU 1050 MEM.
CPU 191.5 x 21 = 4021Mhz
RAM 1522 8-8-8-21-1T tRFC60

Link 20,511 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1637782)

[DrNip]

You were right about the MSI..BIG difference!!! Should of held on to the other cards longer!!!! I can't catch you in 03 and 06 and I can't figure how you are doing it at 4.5...But I am getting better.

Prolly because you are on Windows 7 would be my guess. Get you some XP action and watch your score jump.

[Neuromancer]

WOW nice Pscore :)

[lakeside2189]

Can you get the core higher?
Yes, I can take it higher...I havent reached the max yet plus Kal took it higher than I did....Thanks N...Just having fun....

[lakeside2189]

Prolly because you are on Windows 7 would be my guess. Get you some XP action and watch your score jump.
It's funny you should mention it..I had the 2 300 raptors in raid 0 and had them split into Vista 64 and the Win7 RC program..The Vista would always beat the 7 when i was benching the 4870x2 Top...After the final win 7 came out I loaded the complete raid with the 7 Ult 64...In vista you could set for center timings when benching..With 7 it is a pain..You have to lower the reso. before it will let you enable gpu scaling...I think 7 doesn't recognize my 30 inch Dell. I wonder why Vista did and 7 doesn't??? I loaded the drivers for the monitor...Not sure why I have this problem...

[Neuromancer]

What is center timings and GPU scaling?

[lakeside2189]

What is center timings and GPU scaling?
In the ATI CCC you can go to display and tick enable GPU scaling and then center timing...It makes the screen the size of the 3D test you are running..Basicly it will help your score if you have a big monitor..Vista and XP would let you just go there and tick it...With 7, if you go there you can't tick it until you go to property's and bring your resolution down to like 1280 1024 and then go back and can tick gpu scaling...

It is like 7 doesn't recognize the monitor which is weird....

Using gpu scaling and the center timing in CCC will increase your score... If you have a large monitor it is a must..

[Neuromancer]

Sweet, I had wondered about that, never tried it though... thanks!

[lakeside2189]

Sweet, I had wondered about that, never tried it though... thanks!
Try it..I have a 30 inch monitor..2560 x 1600ish reso..running any of the Futuremark test would fill the screen and slow the score. Any monitor over 1280x1000ish would be more than you needed to run any Futuremark test..The center timing will increase your score...I just don't understand why it is harder in win7 than the others..:Dizzy:

[69_Goat]

I looked in CCC, but I don't see those options.
Does it only show for certain monitors?

[lakeside2189]

If you are using the new CCC 9.7 thru 9.11

open the CCC
tick the graphics at the top and drop the menu
tick desktop and display
at the bottom you will see a small monitor with a black arrow pointing down, tick that
then tick the configure box.

This will have your options to enable GPU scaling. for everyday use you would want to keep the scale image to full panel size.
for benching you would want to tick center timings...

with Vista and XP I could tick these at anytime...with 7 they are there but untickable..I have to go to properties first..lower the resolution to 1280x1024 and then go back and can tick what I want...Not sure why....
This will increase your score or atleast it did mine...

[69_Goat]

OK, got it now.
Thanks, LS. :thumbsup:

[lakeside2189]

Just a note..after you make your run the center timing could be to small for you to set everything for print screen and paint..If so, open CCC and go to properties and set back your full resolution...Then do your print and paint thing...

My score increases by hundreds using this....:clapping:

[69_Goat]

If you want to see some wild clocks on 5870's, go over to kingpincooling forums
and check out the Vantage contest they were running.

[lakeside2189]

I watch what Gunny is doing most of the time...Those guys are in a league of there own...
Ran the 3D06 run at 1015/1327...The afterburnner program allows for much higher clocks..Can't see myself catching Kal on 06 but this beats all my stock 4870x2 single card runs except the Top which is in a league of it's own...This should do it for me until i get more or different cards....

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/28066.png

[DrNip]

Man I wish I could have picked up a set of those XFX's the other night as these look to be a blast. I would have even dusted off the F1EE to run with them.

[Kal-EL]

Deanzo flat out killed his card doing Friday the 1300/1300 action on his. Blasted a bad ass score! :good:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/673/p24486msi.png (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/p24486msi.png/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/p24486msi.png/1/w1680.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img37/p24486msi.png/1/)

[DrNip]

Crap! These 5870/5970 cards are wicked!

[Neuromancer]

heh heh 1.6Volts.. insane :) Going to have to LN2 cool the VDDCs lol

[lakeside2189]

This is when you know your a small fish in a big pond!!!!!:blush::ohcrap:

[lakeside2189]

Had to change a few settings to get Aquamark to run in win7..I need to get the CPU speed up some but still my best run....

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/333717.png

[DrNip]

Wow. That's with one card at only 4.625ghz in Windows 7. Would like to see it in XP. What RAM speed and timings you have going there?

[69_Goat]

Deanzo flat out killed his card doing Friday the 1300/1300 action on his. Blasted a bad ass score! :good:


Actually, he killed it trying for 1400 on the core. :shock:

[Kal-EL]

Actually, he killed it trying for 1400 on the core. :shock:
But that would only play at the Friday the 14th movie which was a comedy rather a horror show right? :laughing:

[lakeside2189]

Wow. That's with one card at only 4.625ghz in Windows 7. Would like to see it in XP. What RAM speed and timings you have going there?
1854 ram speed 8-9-9-24 timings.. I had to relax em a bit to run the ram up..Aqua loves the ram. I need to work on it...Actually it's the settings and affinity that kicks it..

[DrNip]

You get those timings down and Aquamark will love you long time for it.

[Kal-EL]

:offtopic:
I think the forum is too fast for my browser

:ontopic:
Keep throwin them benchmarks at us bro, lovin it :D

[lakeside2189]

I will never be a Pro but Dam I have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clapping:

I wish the guys on my home forum would bench..I am the true lone bencher!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lakeside2189]

Wow. That's with one card at only 4.625ghz in Windows 7. Would like to see it in XP. What RAM speed and timings you have going there?
I do have a a spare copy of XP 64..and a few extra drives..Do you really think it would be a difference????

[DrNip]

Dunno how well 64 bit plays with Aqua but XP 32 should give ya a boost.

[lakeside2189]

Don't have the 32 bit XP just 64...

[lakeside2189]

Testing the vapor X with the Asus..For some reason the Vapor x on top keeps the MSI program from working correctly..
On a side note which probably means nothing the Asus is a much better made card..The quality of craftsmanship is noticeable..

On a second side note I am joining the OCA bots team. I have permission from Kal. Not sure how much I can help being a H20 guy with the upcoming BOTS Rev3 but I like to hang with you guys and that is what counts.. I always take something with me from here...I will change it today sometime...

My best running 3D05 with 2 cards...Beats 2 4870x2's at 4.625..
Didn't mean for this to go 2 times..Not sure why and can't seem to delete!
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/40157.png
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/40157.png

[DrNip]

What volts are you feeding that? Making me want to pick up a set.

[lakeside2189]

What volts are you feeding that? Making me want to pick up a set.
1.74 on that run..but the ram was set back to 1483 which might be to high for the ram being that low...I just know I'm going to melt something oneday...no pain, no gain...LOL

[Neuromancer]

1.74 volts for what?

[lakeside2189]

1.74 volts for what?
ram
maybe the Doc was referring to the cards 1287ish.....core voltage on that run

[Neuromancer]

Oh.. yah 1.7 ish volts is good for RAM LOL

[DrNip]

Yeah the cards.

[lakeside2189]

The 5870 was worth about 1200 points more than the 4870x2...Still really need the SSD's to shine here...I need to be able to finish at 4.600-4.650..I can't keep the ram up to 1800ish ..always crap out at the end...If i drop the ram to 1400ish I can finish but the score is worse than at 4.550 with 1800ish ram...

Still worth 5 to 6 points..
http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp289/lakeside2189/18041.png

[Neuromancer]

You tried just loosening the timings on the mem to get 1800+ and keep 4.6+ GHz?

[lakeside2189]

Yea, I did that..I always lock on the last test ...I did run 5.75 and dropped the timings to 9-9-9-24 @ 1834 and completed but just a little bit of improvement 18,077...
I'm sure it's me..Probably the CPU or QPI volts...I am still greennish..!!!

I didn't think the GPU would make much difference with PCMark stuff but i ran the same set-up with a 4870x2 and couldn't get over 16,800 so it must count....

Still can't believe I haven't blown something up but there is still time!!!:scared:
You do keep HT enabled right???

[2chesapeakes]

Yea, I did that..I always lock on the last test ...I did run 5.75 and dropped the timings to 9-9-9-24 @ 1834 and completed but just a little bit of improvement 18,077...
I'm sure it's me..Probably the CPU or QPI volts...I am still greennish..!!!

I didn't think the GPU would make much difference with PCMark stuff but i ran the same set-up with a 4870x2 and couldn't get over 16,800 so it must count....

Still can't believe I haven't blown something up but there is still time!!!:scared:
You do keep HT enabled right???
I keep HT enabled. What are your subtimings on the RAM and what is your QPI/Dram volts. Also, what type of Core temps are you getting on the CPU this may also affect the IMC.

I am running my 1600Mhz Gskill's at 1914Mhz 9-9-9-24-1N tRFC 72 tRRD 6. I am also runing 2V to the Ram instead of the rated 1.65V.
1008

[Neuromancer]

HT enabled or not depends on the test.

For 05,06, Vantage definitely enabled... pretty sure same goes for 03. 01 and AM# disabled though.

Wprime and PCMark enabled, all other 2D benches disabled.

[RomDominance]

HT enabled or not depends on the test.

For 05,06, Vantage definitely enabled... pretty sure same goes for 03. 01 and AM# disabled though.

Wprime and PCMark enabled, all other 2D benches disabled.

Pretty close Nuero. This is how I run em.
HT on= wprime's, pcmark, 06 and Vantage
HT off=AQM3, 01, 03, 05, SPi's, pifast, CPUZ

[lakeside2189]

Pretty close Nuero. This is how I run em.
HT on= wprime's, pcmark, 06 and Vantage
HT off=AQM3, 01, 03, 05, SPi's, pifast, CPUZ
Yep, that is how i run them..3D 03, 05 and aqua give no better score with HT on. Actually Aqua needs to have an affinity adjustment to score large..If anything I can't keep the CPU speed up as easy and it doesn't help any...06 and vantage needs the HT...

I just wasn't sure about PCMark...As far as my temps I stay in the mid 60's running 4.575 on the highest core....Running PCMark05
I have never been over 1.80 on the vdimm...(paranoid)
Goat mentioned once that if I run a lower ram speed like with 3D03 at 4.650 lets say 1400ish I didn't need as much vdimm...I think he is right because when i drop the ram speed to run a higher clock for 03..1.68-1.72 works fine...

also to answer 2C's question I run about 1.54 QPI for 4.575....I have had it up to 1.58 for 4.650..Not sure if that is risky but the QPI voltage increase really helps when turning up the CPU..Thanks to 69_goat for that tip..
I have learned alot at this site....Still have a long ways to go....Great Forum...Good People!!!!:thumbsup: