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marcam923
09-24-2009, 11:17 AM
Ok so this is what I am thinking of.

Let me know if all these parts look in line for a good i7 system.

First off I already have one of these:

Radiator (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200&products_id=1646)

Second this is my list of stuff to get:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/marcam923/Watercooling.jpg

Let me know your thoughts on this setup.

Thanks,
Marc

marcam923
09-24-2009, 11:18 AM
Of course if anyone has any parts they are selling I would consider that as well, but it has to wait a little while, probably until mid October or so. :good:

DrNip
09-24-2009, 11:46 AM
I would go with a better pump than that. One that allows for fittings. Something like a laing. I have had both and you want to or at least I wanted to stay away from plastic fittings. Speaking of fittings I am really grooving these.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14mabl1id.html

I would also go with some better clamps or at least better looking.

Something like this:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_298&products_id=25625

Or this:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_298&products_id=24888

Or the silver versions:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_298&products_id=24002

I also have had the reservoir which you'll love. Heatsink is great as well. The tubing you have listed is great and has an excellent bend radius.

What radiator you going to use? Might go with one of those new low fan pressure rads. They sure are nice. Try at least a triple rad as anything less is a waste of time and money.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/sr1-fan-optimized/

marcam923
09-24-2009, 11:58 AM
I would go with a better pump than that. One that allows for fittings. Something like a laing. I have had both and you want to or at least I wanted to stay away from plastic fittings. Speaking of fittings I am really grooving these.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big14mabl1id.html

I would also go with some better clamps or at least better looking.

Something like this:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_298&products_id=25625

Or this:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_298&products_id=24888

Or the silver versions:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_298&products_id=24002

I also have had the reservoir which you'll love. Heatsink is great as well. The tubing you have listed is great and has an excellent bend radius.

What radiator you going to use? Might go with one of those new low fan pressure rads. They sure are nice. Try at least a triple rad as anything less is a waste of time and money.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/sr1-fan-optimized/

Noted on the pump and clamps. Black ones will do nicely. Also like the fittings too.

What do you recommend for a pump?

Click the word radiator in the first post, I basically got that one very inexpensive, so I was gonna see how it worked with everything else, but would like a pa120.3 or the one you linked is nice too. It will be mounted up top in my case with fans blowing up and out.

DrNip
09-24-2009, 12:12 PM
Oh didn't see it. Like I said, you need to get at least a triple rad or just stick with the TRUE. They actually have the rad I was speaking of at sidewinders for a lil cheaper.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicesr12.html

Team that up with some late loon fans and you will be good to go. The 120.3 is good but older technology as there are some better rads out there now. Of course the die hard never want to change guys might come boo me for that statement but it is what it is.

As far as the pump, I have this one and it was great.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=4509

You don't have to go that expensive now but you could do this.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swiftechmcp355.html

With this top:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsladdctop.html

punx223
09-24-2009, 12:15 PM
nip, taht actually is a repackaged liang D5 pump.... the one i got from DD actually came in a liang box lol..


so he should be fine with that one

marcam923
09-24-2009, 12:18 PM
Oh didn't see it. Like I said, you need to get at least a triple rad or just stick with the TRUE. They actually have the rad I was speaking of at sidewinders for a lil cheaper.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicesr12.html

Team that up with some late loon fans and you will be good to go. The 120.3 is good but older technology as there are some better rads out there now. Of course the die hard never want to change guys might come boo me for that statement but it is what it is.

As far as the pump, I have this one and it was great.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=4509

You don't have to go that expensive now but you could do this.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swiftechmcp355.html

With this top:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsladdctop.html

Thanks for the info Nip, I do not have the funds right now, but wanted to see if this rad was worth using or not.

I am seeing great temps with my TRUE and never focus on a high daily OC, just for benching.

I am gonna sell this rad, get some better ram first and see what she can really do, but I think a nice water setup would just top off the case.

How often does the fluid need to be changed etc...

Could that pump be mounted upside down?

My plan is the big empty spot between the board and dvd drive, for the res, with a fill port out the top, the pump upside down, under the dvd drive area, rad up top.

Loop - Pump > Rad > CPU > Res > pump

DrNip
09-24-2009, 12:19 PM
Yeah but I wasn't big on the plastic built in fittings that are on that pump as I had the exact one from sidewinders awhile back. They are prone to crack after awhile or early if you aren't careful. I am a metal fittings type of guy. If you are going to do a water setup might as well do it right or else just go buy a generic kit.

If you are trying to cool your 920 then you will need more of a rad than the one you have linked.

marcam923
09-24-2009, 12:25 PM
Yeah but I wasn't big on the plastic built in fittings that are on that pump as I had the exact one from sidewinders awhile back. They are prone to crack after awhile or early if you aren't careful. I am a metal fittings type of guy. If you are going to do a water setup might as well do it right or else just go buy a generic kit.

If you are trying to cool your 920 then you will need more of a rad than the one you have linked.

I kinda thought so with the rad.

I may just start buying parts, slowly, and try to get the setup complete in the next couple months, basically I want the setup laid out so I can remove the block from the CPU and take the board out if necessary without draining.

DrNip
09-24-2009, 12:28 PM
That's the way to do it. Buy a lil here, buy a lil there and before long you have it.

punx223
09-24-2009, 12:31 PM
That's the way to do it. Buy a lil here, buy a lil there and before long you have it.

thats the way i do it... or trade for it :thumbsup:

nice to see you goin water marc.... now your getting closer and closer to EXXXTREME COOLING :ohcrap:

marcam923
09-24-2009, 12:31 PM
That's the way to do it. Buy a lil here, buy a lil there and before long you have it.

Yeah if I get good parts, at least I will be able to reuse the res, rad, and pump in the future.

Hopefully the x58 is not obsolete before I get it together. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

marcam923
09-24-2009, 12:32 PM
thats the way i do it... or trade for it :thumbsup:

nice to see you goin water marc.... now your getting closer and closer to EXXXTREME COOLING :ohcrap:

:ohcrap: on nooooooes woah is me :ohcrap:

punx223
09-24-2009, 12:34 PM
:ohcrap: on nooooooes woah is me :ohcrap:

dude you will neevr touch an air cooler again :morpheus:

DrNip
09-24-2009, 12:38 PM
I have many of the parts you speak of but am undecided on if I want to sell them as I plan on gettin a water setup goin again sometime. Mine will be a portable setup with quick disconnects that will allow for a quick change between a cpu block or gpu blocks. Just don't know if I will ever finish it though. Let me think about it some and I will let you know as I have those black clamps, the silver version of those black fittings I listed as well as that $120 pump and a XPSC res that can go on top of the pump.

marcam923
09-24-2009, 12:39 PM
I have many of the parts you speak of but am undecided on if I want to sell them as I plan on gettin a water setup goin again sometime. Mine will be a portable setup with quick disconnects that will allow for a quick change between a cpu block or gpu blocks. Just don't know if I will ever finish it though. Let me think about it some and I will let you know as I have those black clamps, the silver version of those black fittings I listed as well as that $120 pump and a XPSC res that can go on top of the pump.

Well let me know buddy, I know if they were in your hands I will have no worries and all those parts sound great, take your time, as my thoughts flow faster than my monies :blush:

DrNip
09-24-2009, 12:40 PM
dude you will neevr touch an air cooler again :morpheus:

Except to game with like I do. I ditched the water setup as personally the TRUE cools pretty damn good. My opinion is, water cooling is more for that wow factor. For looks. Yeah it can cool better but the TRUE done right can cool pretty damn well too. I guess I have that been there done that attitude. Don't let my opinion sway you though marcam as water is nice and nice to show off.

marcam923
09-24-2009, 01:01 PM
Except to game with like I do. I ditched the water setup as personally the TRUE cools pretty damn good. My opinion is, water cooling is more for that wow factor. For looks. Yeah it can cool better but the TRUE done right can cool pretty damn well too. I guess I have that been there done that attitude. Don't let my opinion sway you though marcam as water is nice and nice to show off.

I know Nip the only reason I have held back is because my numbers on air have met a lot of water setups I have seen out there. At least for most normal circumstances, but I cannot dip my TRUE in any icy bucket now can I.

It's either water or a workstation and straight to DICE, but I do not think I wanna deal with coating boards etc, at least until I can have a setup to just consider garbage in case something were to go wrong.

p.s. I just got a call back from the local college about an IT position!!!! :clapping::clapping: Have an interview on Monday, that could mean a much nicer paycheck, plus a HUGE discount on future schooling!

punx223
09-24-2009, 01:48 PM
I know Nip the only reason I have held back is because my numbers on air have met a lot of water setups I have seen out there. At least for most normal circumstances, but I cannot dip my TRUE in any icy bucket now can I.

It's either water or a workstation and straight to DICE, but I do not think I wanna deal with coating boards etc, at least until I can have a setup to just consider garbage in case something were to go wrong.

p.s. I just got a call back from the local college about an IT position!!!! :clapping::clapping: Have an interview on Monday, that could mean a much nicer paycheck, plus a HUGE discount on future schooling!



sweet congrats on the position marc!!!

punx223
09-24-2009, 01:49 PM
Except to game with like I do. I ditched the water setup as personally the TRUE cools pretty damn good. My opinion is, water cooling is more for that wow factor. For looks. Yeah it can cool better but the TRUE done right can cool pretty damn well too. I guess I have that been there done that attitude. Don't let my opinion sway you though marcam as water is nice and nice to show off.

i like water because my case for some odd reason really sucks for airflow

marcam923
09-24-2009, 02:41 PM
i like water because my case for some odd reason really sucks for airflow

Haha I have spent many hours making the airflow in my case great!

I will keep you posted on the position Shannon, just an interview right now, but fingers crossed!

punx223
09-24-2009, 02:51 PM
Haha I have spent many hours making the airflow in my case great!

I will keep you posted on the position Shannon, just an interview right now, but fingers crossed!

wanna make my case flow better it only has 2x120mm fans... i loved this case at first but its really not made for a high performance pc :(

marcam923
09-24-2009, 02:54 PM
wanna make my case flow better it only has 2x120mm fans... i loved this case at first but its really not made for a high performance pc :(

No problem, send it my way I will work my magic on it! :good:

punx223
09-24-2009, 02:55 PM
No problem, send it my way I will work my magic on it! :good:

i wish buddy but if i send to you my computer no worky

marcam923
09-24-2009, 03:28 PM
i wish buddy but if i send to you my computer no worky

Cardboard box it! hahahaha :thumbsup:

Wait a couple weeks to get the three I am working on now done, and then I could have it done in a week! You would be without the case for about 2.5 weeks. :good:

punx223
09-24-2009, 03:42 PM
Cardboard box it! hahahaha :thumbsup:

Wait a couple weeks to get the three I am working on now done, and then I could have it done in a week! You would be without the case for about 2.5 weeks. :good:

nah i wouldnt rush ya... i may temporarily run a cheapy case and get mine marcamodded :ohcrap:



:morpheus:

marcam923
09-24-2009, 03:49 PM
nah i wouldnt rush ya... i may temporarily run a cheapy case and get mine marcamodded :ohcrap:



:morpheus:

Anytime bud! Just let me know when! :good:

DrNip
09-24-2009, 05:14 PM
Best way I found to improve air flow was dumping the case for a tech station. I just don't see myself being contained by a case again ever again.

punx223
09-24-2009, 09:52 PM
Best way I found to improve air flow was dumping the case for a tech station. I just don't see myself being contained by a case again ever again.

even for the main 24/7 rig nip?

Chicken Patty
09-26-2009, 10:30 AM
I would go with the MCP 355 pump, that with an aftermarket top seems to perform the best and have the best head room

Pump:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swiftechmcp355.html

Top:
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsladdctop.html